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nubbins`: "pretty sad
that a fuckin sticker determines whether our device is a paperweight or not"
Chillum: asciilifeform: I
think attaching
to
the underside of ships
nubbins`: hardware and software security,
that
there was such a simple oversight.
nubbins`: <rassah> I would have secured
them better by adding a sticker on
the other side
too (I got
them
the way you got
them before shipping), but I had very few extra stickers. Should have been put on
the front. I dont know what happened here. Maybe
they were putting
them on
the sides without realizing how flexible
the box is, and only realized when
they almost ran out? Pretty sad
that after such a huge amount of work adding and improving internal
nubbins`: little silver
thing in
the case
there
nubbins`: Adlai i guess
those magnets aren't strong enough.
Chillum: I assume since we are on IRC
this is hypothetical
Chillum: Semi-submersible latches onto side of cargo ship below
the water lines, gets carried
Chillum: ohhh I did not realize we were
talking about smuggling devices
mircea_popescu: you can
trivially make
tamper evident stickers
that aren't fixable with infinite resoruces.
Adlai: ie sticker covering
the hinges of
the plastic casing, rather
than
the clasp
Chillum: If you want
to make sure
the government has not
tampered with a package, put some weed in
there. If
the weed is still
there
they probably did not look lol
Adlai: some of
the devices shipped with
teh sticker glued
to
the wrong side
☟︎ decimation: ^ which is why
the device must be inspectible/audit-able by user
Chillum: asciilifeform: and it did next
to zero damage
nubbins`: for
those who don't watch: guy removes device from package w/o damaging
tamper evident sticker
Adlai: not
that people aren't machines, but i
think
that you now know what i means
mircea_popescu: actually, my bird wouldn't be a baloon. it'd be a sheet of plastic, basically.
this can have zero size if it wants
to
Adlai: mircea_popescu: sorry but you're not relevant here; you learn people
their work, not machines
Chillum: not state of
the art. Lighter
than air craft are getting very advanced
Chillum: they go
to an altitude above aircraft, when
they start dropping
the self destruct
to avoid
the airspace
Chillum: again, already lots of weather balloons out
there going in random directions
Adlai: (for 19th century vernacular values of
the
transitive 'learn')
Adlai: #b-a poll: who has found machine learning worth learning, as a human who learns machines
their work
Chillum: DLINK likes
to keep code a long
time
Chillum: insecurity in routers is a real problem. Most homes have a router
that can be hacked by anyone who connects over wifi. From
there
they can packet sniff
Chillum: I want
to hack
the OS
that is on it now
Chillum: I found references
to a uart in
the firmware
Chillum: On another
topic I am
trying
to hack my router(without looking up how
to, figuring it out is
the fun part)
decimation: Chillum: yes
the popular
tool is
the rtl 2832 chip on a usb connected
to software
that decodes mode-s
transponder emissions
Chillum: it is not
that hard
to setup a software defined radio
to
track
the
transponders of aircraft nearby
Chillum: there are plenty of weather balloons out
there.
They don't follow flight plans. A large balloon would not be
too out of place
jurov: but it'd need
to avoid rain at all costs, i guess
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> Chillum it's not better per se, just
the variety of assholes is greater. <<
this is prob more accurate
jurov: if can be done
transparent
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform really more like a manta
that's an acre and goes in air.
Chillum: did anyone see
the
Ted
talk where
they had a hummerbird model flying?
jurov: can't find
the link
jurov: mircea_popescu: iirc
there is medusa-like contraption
that was considered most efficient way
to keep heavier
tha air machine afloat
Chillum: (not
the real Mars
though)
Chillum: or in
the fictional Mars/Barsoom
Chillum: an ornithopter would work fine on
Titan
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you could make
the waveguide very flat and
tiny
mircea_popescu: a plastic bag never reaches
the bottom, it is ground into mush before.
Chillum: an ion lifter would stick out like a sore
thumb
Chillum: keep in mind
that in addition
to radar
they are looking for signal emissions
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not straight up like
that. a flexible foil
that exploits atmospheric randomness
Chillum: high voltage on
those ion lifters
Chillum: hydrogen itself will be more
transparent
than air
Chillum: just get some radar, go into
the desert and figure out what can hold hydrogen but does not absorb or reflect radar
decimation: they are flying around
the world with
the new model
mircea_popescu: actually what i'd really like
to see would be a
truely flying microfibre machine.
Chillum: I suppose if you made an aluminum skin like
the hindinburg
Chillum: if you want
to stay in
the air a long
time go for a lighter
than air drone
mircea_popescu: one day
this guy is going
to make us sorry we mocked yekudsky
decimation: make it a
turboprop and you can fly up
to predator altitutde
Chillum: diversity is
the key
to assholery
decimation: asciilifeform:
that's not a small pigeon
mircea_popescu: Chillum it's not better per se, just
the variety of assholes is greater.
Chillum: oh ya, meeting of
the minds
Chillum: nubbins` said
the converstation was better here