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mp_en_viaje: though i suspect this still doesn'
t cover it.
mp_en_viaje: goodness is the only criteria. "users" really don'
t count for anything. let them learn.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-06 12:59 OriansJ: Mocky: Don'
t get stuck on the idea of Floating point, it is just an example of classes of instructions that are complex to implement in hardware that a proper illegal instruction trap will allow us to move between hardware and software with no one else having to care what we are doing. As we want people programming to standards not to systems.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-06 12:28 diana_coman: it seems quite surprising to me there isn'
t more interest but tbf I haven'
t used local WU ever, would need to even look it up, lol.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-06 01:00 OriansJ: We definitely don'
t need hardware support for floating point though (just a set of defined encodings for floating point instructions and a clean exception mechanism which allows an operating system or a library to implement via software routines)
mp_en_viaje: depends what you're doijng, you know, if i go to visit prague for a week i don'
t take the whole menagerie.
mp_en_viaje: and talking of zee germanz : a) lufthansa dun have offices anymore, it only deals through agents ; b) which charge a fee ON TOP OF A FEE. because lufthansa not only doesn'
t operate offices anymore -- it charges anyone who does 16 euros. it's like they think they're a happening nightclub or something, gotta pay a cover to be allowed to pay for drinks.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-05 23:12 OriansJ: If one doesn'
t want to have a boot rom; one needs either a hardware tape reader (which writes tape to memory on power on and jumps to address 0 to run it or a toggle board. A serial bus just moves the bootstrap trust issue to another piece of hardware
mp_en_viaje: unknown that'll then be travelled by "the many". the republic's not about the many, and our committment doesn'
t stem from or waver with adoption.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-07 08:49 spyked:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907214 <-- don'
t you find it weird, though, that you say this, and then after just a few lines you
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-07#1907238 ? this is not a rhetorical question: you're unimpressed by the recorded 5+yo history of discussions of a group of ~actual people~, and the reflection therein of their ~actually doing~ things; and then immediately you go on to referen
phf: expressing yourself precisely and communicating clearly. another problem is that you yourself start thinking in shortcuts. and to what end? like take your svg comment, what's it supposed to accomplish? "oh, how interesting". anyway, please don'
t do it here.
phf: oh you just don'
t support html in general (presumably you still
http with something like wget), i think your position would've been a lot stronger if you just said so, rather then something something tor browser. i'm vaguely curious what "non-turing complete svg subset" is, but that's a stone that will have to be turned some other time
OriansJ: phf: It is on a seperate machine; The svg subset that isn'
t turing complete is enabled and working.
phf: OriansJ: i don'
t understand what your comment is in response to, would you mind elaborating
OriansJ: phf: the cost of trying to interact with those that don'
t share one's values; for the sake of hopefully learning something of value or finding a fruitful cooperation.
OriansJ: asciilifeform: we don'
t need cycle-accurate; we just need good enough to be able to write the pieces that will run on it directly
☟︎ OriansJ: asciilifeform: It isn'
t about cost because a Custom IC can be done for under $10K today in a 45nm process
OriansJ: asciilifeform: sadly they haven'
t given that yet but let us just assume Industry costs (say $10K) per wafer
OriansJ: We can always add complexity and provide mechanisms for supporting additional complexity but but typed memory isn'
t exactly easy to bootstrap in hex
a111: Logged on 2019-04-05 23:02 OriansJ: bvt: Actually DOS wouldn'
t be the correct direction as it is actually more complex to implement portably and it's abstraction layer isn'
t right for a good general bootstrap.
OriansJ: Mocky: Don'
t get stuck on the idea of Floating point, it is just an example of classes of instructions that are complex to implement in hardware that a proper illegal instruction trap will allow us to move between hardware and software with no one else having to care what we are doing. As we want people programming to standards not to systems.
☟︎ diana_coman: it seems quite surprising to me there isn'
t more interest but tbf I haven'
t used local WU ever, would need to even look it up, lol.
☟︎ spyked: that is, for whatever architecture it's implemented on, it doesn'
t have to be the same DOS
a111: Logged on 2019-04-05 23:02 OriansJ: bvt: Actually DOS wouldn'
t be the correct direction as it is actually more complex to implement portably and it's abstraction layer isn'
t right for a good general bootstrap.
spyked:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-05#1907021 <-- the problem with "portability" (in the sense of supporting/maintaining the same software interface across different hardware architectures/configurations) is that it's a convenient lie most of the times. the goal isn'
t to implement the same DOS for all architectures, but to have some sort of DOS that provides some functionality and otherwise stays out of the pr
☝︎ OriansJ: We definitely don'
t need hardware support for floating point though (just a set of defined encodings for floating point instructions and a clean exception mechanism which allows an operating system or a library to implement via software routines)
☟︎ OriansJ: one minor note; there is a common pattern with structs to load (base + offset) followed by arithmetic/logic with another register and generally writing out to another (base + offset). So it is tempting to put in instructions to do those; but as the VAX has shown, it isn'
t worth the additional complexity.
OriansJ: If one doesn'
t want to have a boot rom; one needs either a hardware tape reader (which writes tape to memory on power on and jumps to address 0 to run it or a toggle board. A serial bus just moves the bootstrap trust issue to another piece of hardware
☟︎ OriansJ: an 8bit immediate can be very useful for dense code and it would fit most bootstrapping constants if it is signed; support for 16, 32 and up immediates makes supporting compilers for C/Ada easier to write but it isn'
t a real issue if you have support for IP relative loads of 32bit and up values
OriansJ: bvt: Actually DOS wouldn'
t be the correct direction as it is actually more complex to implement portably and it's abstraction layer isn'
t right for a good general bootstrap.
☟︎☟︎ BingoBoingo: This isn'
t quite an area I'm incredibly specialized in, hopefully others can chime in.
OriansJ: To be honest if it wasn'
t for wanting to support developers who use division; M2-Planet wouldn'
t have even included support for it and honestly bootstrap hardware really doesn'
t need that complexity
diana_coman: asciilifeform, hope you get well soon! and no, don'
t get to delirium (or even serious shivers as that's likely to come first anyway)
mp_en_viaje: the cost to make point c 500 or so km as opposed to the current 10 isn'
t THAT significant, considering the air is rather thin past the first 5-6km anyway. yes it's expensive to defeat gravity, but not AS expensive, because it scales with square of distance anyway, by the time you've done 10 out of 500 you've done such a large chunk of the work already...
a111: Logged on 2019-04-04 12:04 diana_coman: re relish or not I quite suspect many would be way happier if they didn'
t "have to unique"
BingoBoingo: Unlike Argentina who killed their beef export market to feed the derps, Uruguay is still grass fed premium export market product because Uruguay knows they starve if they can'
t export
BingoBoingo: Like the Uruguayos and their beef. The ones who raise beef are masters of Beef. The ones who don'
t can'
t cook in a way that does the beef justice outside of the asado tradition.
mp_en_viaje: the two some peoples aren'
t necessarily the same.
mp_en_viaje: i mean, their sandwiches use the same brie i use. they have pastrami with horseradish mustard i wouldn'
t be ashamed to offer to visiting lords at my own table. nothing's older than an hour maybe, the romaigne as crispy as if i just picked it myself
diana_coman: re relish or not I quite suspect many would be way happier if they didn'
t "have to unique"
☟︎ mp_en_viaje: in alf's terms, isn'
t even need of mp personally to hold mirror before snouts, mirror works by itself whoever holds it.
BingoBoingo: <mp_en_viaje> the driver of the error is the desire of having a ~unique~ personality. it is not deemed sufficient, by contemporary man, to merely have the same personality as the entire tableau of orthodox saints. there's too many of those, see. gotta be unique. as it can'
t be unique and meaningful at te same time (think, can it ?)... all that's left is the getting-drunk-on-tapwater "secret parameters". << On the USG side also likely
Mocky: I see what you mean by the driver of the error, but I don'
t see how height, numeric value etc. have to do with personality.
mp_en_viaje: the driver of the error is the desire of having a ~unique~ personality. it is not deemed sufficient, by contemporary man, to merely have the same personality as the entire tableau of orthodox saints. there's too many of those, see. gotta be unique. as it can'
t be unique and meaningful at te same time (think, can it ?)... all that's left is the getting-drunk-on-tapwater "secret parameters".
☟︎ mp_en_viaje: i said i don'
t think so, and held them out for his inspection. he thanked me for my kindnss, i explained it's not so much kindness as duty, and we parted amicably.
mp_en_viaje: that'll pass. now, i propose to you that this is a parameter in the first place, in that it consists of a matter of degrees, however combined. it's entirely quantitative, there's no qualitative portion to it. and it is secret, because her belief is that another wouldn'
t know which valus the parameter takes, nothing else.
mp_en_viaje: i say it can'
t exist, you wish to see why not. i'm allowed to ask for it no ?
Mocky: well example of something that can'
t exist?
mp_en_viaje: the "secret mempool", the "claiming saddam has things he doesn'
t will forward our goals", it's an endless list. remarkably enough, it's a COMPLETE list of contemporary thought.
mp_en_viaje: there can'
t be, you see, such a thing as a secret parameter. and this applies equally well to the "bombing stationary object" problem touched above, and to the "i will make website ban so and so after so and so" anti-mp historical fetlifish computer "engineering", and to the romcom notion of "deeply personal experience" and so following.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, isn'
t that quite the mental image btw ? a plutonium lake.
mp_en_viaje: difference between "engine that could work if built, but can'
t be built until liquid plutonium available by the pondful" and "engine that is based on thermodynamic non-cycle".
mp_en_viaje: but yes. lotta what is protocol is promise. starting with "segwit" bs, i won'
t unearth the threads.
mp_en_viaje: (i guess they don'
t use the same convention in us f, analysis)
mp_en_viaje: obv works on yokels, but ultimately extracting ~all tx of which any node ever talked
t o another node is trivial.
mp_en_viaje:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-03#1906624 << because cemented in "standard practices" because it has to be because for political reasons had to pretend it was at some point because etcetera. ~same reason basketball players wear wifebeater-cut tops and soccer players wear
t-shirt tops. could very well be backwards, but isn'
t because etcetera.
☝︎ mp_en_viaje: but yes that was the explanatory theory we came up with, since they socialize over beer it then therefore follows they don'
t socialize over coffee and that's an end to it. could for the same money complain there's no teahouse with proper samovar in zanzibar.
diana_coman: I suspect they ...don'
t have money to meet there ?
diana_coman: that being said, I actually had a nice time at various biergartens fwiw - obv, with people "brought from home" as it were so I don'
t know it had much to do with the *garten itself
BingoBoingo: Well, if the USG has a fleet I don'
t know why they wouldn'
t prefer to propagate double spends
a111: Logged on 2019-04-03 04:08 mp_en_viaje: also, guiao or w/e dork in current ukraine is well and truly fucked, isn'
t he ? (meanwhile i saw some random comedian won 1st round for presidency in previous ukraine, imaginary usg.blue concoction both)
a111: Logged on 2016-12-21 18:32 mircea_popescu: because no, words don'
t "have meanings". your meanings for ANY WORD are a function of ALL THE OTHER WORDS YOU KNOW. which is why my definitions regularily blow out english dictionaries, wikipedia and other sources of "wisdom" out of the water - i know more words, and in this knowledge i know all the words i know ~better~. infinitely and irreproducibly so.
mp_en_viaje: also, guiao or w/e dork in current ukraine is well and truly fucked, isn'
t he ? (meanwhile i saw some random comedian won 1st round for presidency in previous ukraine, imaginary usg.blue concoction both)
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-11-04 23:22 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the fact all your terminals suck isn'
t an argument in this convo.
spyked: (to be clear, my issue is not of inclusion of said txen in the blockchain, but merely seeing them on nodes other than my own, even if unconfirmed; right now I might as well assume I'm doing something wrong and my node didn'
t send them at all)
a111: Logged on 2019-04-01 14:58 diana_coman: in other lulz, eulora's client complaint that it can'
t find "reteprelieum" font was caused by the fact that the font-file was called reteprellum while all code (xml! scripts! scriptable!!!) said reteprelieum; now in fairness the font is horrid so it's better it was wrong.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, i always thought it's the HEIGHT of insanity that if i buy 4 banks of 16gb ram i don'
t get 4x faster ram access.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, how could it not be, a buncha idle virgin bois derping about "convincing pretense" as to adulthood and whatnot. if it weren'
t boring as fuck the problem of hiring schoolteachers would be merely difficult, rather than plain impossible.
diana_coman: in other lulz, eulora's client complaint that it can'
t find "reteprelieum" font was caused by the fact that the font-file was called reteprellum while all code (xml! scripts! scriptable!!!) said reteprelieum; now in fairness the font is horrid so it's better it was wrong.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: trilema puts articles outside comments inside ands some more trims underneath. but i don'
t expect this is the only way to go about it -- though perhaps it is best to have "recent x" things up top.
billymg: ok, i see now exactly what you meant by can'
t select the other sizes while uploading (only original)
mircea_popescu: as far as experience illuminates, a theme goes like this : a) you must have a header, and a.1 you don'
t want it animated ; thus i know of nothing better than tcurrent state of the art as shown by trilema : mask-png which goes with the theme, invite user to take some pictures, apply the mask, upload them and have the theme rotate through them by some criteria.
mircea_popescu: now ~whether~ it can or can not resize images, that'd be part of mp-wp, and i expect it'd work, but your current theme doesn'
t expose the functionality
mircea_popescu: if trilema-size (560 px wide) doesn'
t comfortably fit in your post column, prolly too narrow post column
diana_coman: fwiw I don'
t see any use for "roles" either
mircea_popescu: billymg, submitterd for review, but long story short you don'
t have img upload anymore that i can find ?
a111: Logged on 2019-03-31 16:56 diana_coman: re fg inside, I suppose that's the "those guys don'
t know how to sell" - gotta make it a collectable, there's no use and no purpose other than it's cool; but mircea_popescu's explanation of self-valuation seems to me to explain it all much better really.