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ascii_field: two basic but imho entirely separate problems with mr mold - a) he wasn't entirely mentally clean of usg to begin with ( most of mircea_popescu's observations fall into (a)) b) he was approached, as early as 2010, and told 'your crackpot os will be funded and you can sleep ad libitum, but there is a price'
asciilifeform: usg 'drop ten million rocket to nail a camel' is generous !
decimation: thus setting up the ironic situation where one side of usg wants to clamp down on 100 foot drone-flying while f16s blaze around where they please
decimation: gernika: that's kinda the point of the earlier converation. as long as you count your wealth in usd, you are owned by usg and are wealthy at their pleasure
asciilifeform: ^ that was for 'disability pension' from usg
decimation: but to connect with your point, clearly as long as you are wholly owned by usg, doing business in its monopoly money, don't be surprised when 'it giveth and taketh away'
decimation: unless you were intentionally ensuring that 'schmucksons' couldn't become wealthy enough to tell usg to fuck off...
decimation: no my point is that usg demands jr drains the account
decimation: they are better in the sense that usg promises not to charge further tax
ascii_field: kakobrekla: our zeroes are bigger than usg's!
asciilifeform: speaking of classic usg lulz, https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/08/03/life-unmasking-british-eavesdroppers
asciilifeform: and big fat duffels of benjie from usg
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fortunately there is wildlife that lives on usg-free net, whose turds one can follow to find the forest. i speak, of course, of crapware artists and sp4mz0rz
chetty: <mircea_popescu> it's purely a pr thing. got to get people used to the idea that they MUST say they despise the usg.// just the usg? lots of other places seem equally worthy of it
mircea_popescu: it's purely a pr thing. got to get people used to the idea that they MUST say they despise the usg.
mircea_popescu: i will not give money to derps who follow usg.
asciilifeform: well, the maryland folks landed a few $mil in grantola straight from usg treasury
decimation: asciilifeform: my understanding that the "U" dry storage casks are specially designed to be put into 'fast breeder' - for a time when usg comes to its sense
asciilifeform: has to be ramped up soviet-style - with whiners told to go fuck a duck - rather than usg-style, where they somberly bury the spent rods in a coffin, with christian funeral
mircea_popescu: 't make usg's shit not stink somehow, magically.
asciilifeform: ^^^^ usg sinkholing ftw
asciilifeform: good old usg-actually-owning-the-fucking-net
decimation: as usual usg claims success early and often
asciilifeform: usg's #1 source of coin !
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> The @twobitallidiot is now all concerned abou "wealth concentration" <<< in normal terms, "wealth concentration" means "power centers that are not alligned with usg".
assbot: Logged on 31-07-2015 03:24:40; decimation: now, I do think usg has a real problem with its 'secret services' running amock, making a mess of things, and generally being completely untransparent to anybody
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-07-2015#1219013 << the usg has a problem with its millenarist, one-world approach, which is stepping on everyone's toes. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: by now usg painted itself in the very sad corner where it has to provide housing for free and does the whole ration meal thing via mcd. all the drawbacks of centrally planned, scarcely any of the benefits.
decimation: certainly usg is gonna throw the book at snowden - how could anyone in the civil service have sympathy?
asciilifeform: usg tool.
decimation: now, I do think usg has a real problem with its 'secret services' running amock, making a mess of things, and generally being completely untransparent to anybody ☟︎
decimation: is real position seems to be that usg shouldn't spy on anyone, even foriegners
decimation: I do see how all the noise and confusion benefits usg's enemies
decimation: maybe, but I don't understand how it benefits usg
BingoBoingo: coderwill: I came this channel all cautious like because I was afraid of making a fool out of myself. Eventually I had used this nick long enough I identify as this more than I do as my USG imposed slave name.
decimation: lol https://twitter.com/USFWS/status/626788237399339008 < apparently twitter is how usg tries to get in touch with people now?
BingoBoingo: At the point where USG decides franchisee employees are actually McDonalds employees... coke machine
decimation: where do they dig this shit up? meanwhile actual shit happens in usg all around washington - not important?
asciilifeform: (to a first approximation, 'famous in usg media' ======= usg tool)
asciilifeform: because he's a usg tool ?
BingoBoingo: Of course, but USG is rarely rational anymore.
BingoBoingo: With cheap USG sparc
ascii_field: the docs mentioned that one could buy 'write-once tapes', for usg regulatory compliance
ascii_field: yes, there is a ministry of usg that occupies itself with finding nails for the microscope to pound in, badly
mircea_popescu: the 2016 usg line re bitcoin will be that "never happened, not important, uninteresting"
mircea_popescu: lawl. actually hanbot & shinohai the stuff's quite well related. sv knows how to do one thing, the whole "make a market out of a trillion shitheads and sell them sheep olives for quarter pennies". and usg lives in this delusional alt-reality where it is enough for it to say, and things happen.
ascii_field: buterin & co just got $2M from usg.
mircea_popescu: is it a bad thing that i find him more amusing than the run of the mill usg "comedian" ?
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 14:36:04; asciilifeform: they would much rather that everyone announce, for usg's ease of snoopage, when they are beginning to speak, and to whom, for how long, which order the bytes lay down in.
mircea_popescu: mkay. i wouldn't be too worried about her fate - it'd cost usg more than it'd cost me to ditch udp.
mircea_popescu: decimation except he didn't like the fact yu gotta say where you're sending stuff "because usg snoops it"
mircea_popescu: leaving the entire pile of usg services in the lurch.
asciilifeform: go, 'feel safe' because you went along with usg's transparent attempt to ban the only presently working single-packet transmission medium.
mircea_popescu: what, jam tomorrow, maybe one day ima get gossipd over udp, perhaps, who knows ? meanwhile half the remaining usg online is BASED, and requires udp to survive at all ?
mircea_popescu: what the usg does or doesn't do, wants or doesn't want, etc is irrelevant to everything, usg included.
asciilifeform: they would much rather that everyone announce, for usg's ease of snoopage, when they are beginning to speak, and to whom, for how long, which order the bytes lay down in. ☟︎
asciilifeform: usg never liked the lack of inspectorial insight that udp creates. so they have deliberately set up this situation, long ago
asciilifeform: ddos only exists because of usg. as in, deliberate decision to route maladdressed packets, infrastructurally.
asciilifeform: and the way to avoid it is by resisting, unconditionally, any and all seemingly-reasonable suggestions by usg tools to constrict the permissible set of the net.
asciilifeform: it is also the foremost usg organ
asciilifeform: i dare to suggest that there is not a single transoceanic line or satellite in orbit that usg could not arbitrarily diddle, or remove entirely, at their pleasure.
asciilifeform: that is one usg, yes
mircea_popescu: if you think the dispute as to how internet won't be available in the future in the us comes down to what anyone wants, usg or not usg...
mircea_popescu: usg is arguing that "olympics are bad mkay, not because we can't afford anything, but because <<<gentrification>>>".
asciilifeform: alcatel is usg to me
mircea_popescu: you are aware the usg can't maintain infrastructure anyway, and if you persist in staying there you will one day connect to b-a via satellite phones provided by, likely, fucking spain.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the link concerned ~infrastructure~. usg is trying so that when i get my signed udp, and try to send it to mircea_popescu, it won't leave my street even.
asciilifeform: i will say it again, the push against udp is usg disinfo. and everyone who buys into it should retreat to the library with a copy of richard stevens and think very carefully.
asciilifeform: (it is much easier to filter, and will be filtered by usg infrastructure.)
asciilifeform: 'In the case of WebRTC [I-D.draft-ietf-rtcweb-transports], TURN [RFC5766] should be used to concentrate and manage a known-good UDP flows.' <<< ahahaha, 'pleeez herd all yer packetz through usg middleman box'
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu check it out, usg read the gossipd logs, and http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-07-2015#1217682 ☝︎
asciilifeform: why would i give half a fuck about usg ceremonies
asciilifeform: where there was a massive pile of usg paperwork, killing - literally - a forest
decimation: ^ how could the constition give you your ideas if usg didn't own them first?
decimation: just like usg claims all your ideas: "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;"
decimation: usg claims *all* airspace on its lands, starting at 0 feet
mircea_popescu: ahh, the primary driver of usg agent behaviour - that ever present gnawing fear at the back of the skull that who knows, maybe someone somewhere is laughing at them
ascii_field: trinque: as i understand, the story isn't about '90s-style bans, but smoke to distract from the fact the 'smartPnohe' etc. is thoroughly pwned and usg-controlled on every level, 'crypted' or not
pete_dushenski: not that this should be in any way surprising. it's a usg feature after all.
asciilifeform: usg is still in the ring.
assbot: Logged on 29-07-2015 04:17:19; mircea_popescu: but the beating usg is taking online for the past half decade makes the beating it's been taking on the ground in any military engagement since ww2 look like a piss in the park.
mircea_popescu: but the beating usg is taking online for the past half decade makes the beating it's been taking on the ground in any military engagement since ww2 look like a piss in the park. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2015 04:57:56; asciilifeform: essentially, something so utterly catastrophic to usg that it could not possibly be a hangout
asciilifeform: ergo they are not in any sense enemies of usg
mircea_popescu: it can only be plausible if simultaneously a) one's never had any sort of interaction wit hthe usg and b) one's stewed for years / millions of words' worth in some armchair generalship club.
mircea_popescu: so, t1 = snowden 2 ran off with some papers ; t2 = usg figurdd it out ; t3 = snowden 1 is created for purpose of defense ; t4 = greenwald & co start promoting snowden 1 ; t5 = snowden 2 finally makes public contact ; t6 = greenwald & co claim contact ; t7->to this present day
asciilifeform: and serving his usg masters to this day
asciilifeform: he was permitted to write a book, the very typical 'escaped sov brass' boot, nominally 'edgy' but 100% usg-approved
phf: gentooization is the norm of usg living
asciilifeform: (and crown thug force, and usg monopoly concessions)
shinohai: If nothing else, it is like all my USG silver. I can melt it into skulls one day.
assbot: Logged on 28-07-2015 03:12:30; asciilifeform: my current understanding is that 'imsi catcher' is an artifact specifically of the bureaucratic side of usg. intercept at the tower, where the bits hit a land line, is trivial and no one has to leave his chair - but the paperwork is annoying. hence squaddie and 'catcher'
decimation: yeah it takes a special idiot to use strong gps jammer in a usg free-fire zone
BingoBoingo: <decimation> where cell phones used analog FM channels around 800-900 mhz << USG mandates scanners and amateur radios ship with "blank spot" over that portion of spectrum
decimation: usg mandated otherwise
asciilifeform: ^ usg mandate
asciilifeform: what usg functionary of any significance walks around without a satellite phone ?
decimation: plus you are forgetting something: usg demands that usg minions can excercise 'priority override'
asciilifeform: my current understanding is that 'imsi catcher' is an artifact specifically of the bureaucratic side of usg. intercept at the tower, where the bits hit a land line, is trivial and no one has to leave his chair - but the paperwork is annoying. hence squaddie and 'catcher' ☟︎
phf: well, that's the conversation about real computers. i wouldn't mind paying those same $800 for a phone that's not "diddle by usg", has excellent sound quality and can send sms with a full keyboard. such phone is not to be had though