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asciilifeform: but there it was, as opaque as anyffin in eltsin's ru
mircea_popescu: which is quite substantially different from matters eminently of record, such as "who are, truly, the intended and delcared diplomatic endpoints of so and so pretend-sovereign"
mircea_popescu: and then these things flatter themselves with (purely hallucinated) statehood. yet in any practical sense, the troop of retards posing as "reigning house" of the netherlands (have you seen them btw ?) is sitting atop something infinitely less statal than this here republic.
mircea_popescu: i actually had to fall back on my own secret service background to extract through THAT AVENUE the information that she needed in such a packaging and under such wot signaturs as i could trust, because god fucking help me if she was gonna send shit to random endpoints "culled from the www"
asciilifeform: ( won't even touch the subj of how the sovok box designers never even entertained as a joke the notion that it'd prevent operator from running certain proggies )
mircea_popescu: tbh, the industrial reductionism of "better make one good car than three differently bad ones" is perhaps the most notable result to come out of the great soviet industrial experiment. and, amusingly enough, still very poorly understood, as illustrated in all sort and manner of lulz such as say http://trilema.com/2010/masini-bune-si-masini-de-lux/#selection-53.131-53.445
asciilifeform: even my sovok alarm clock keeps to <1s/day (yes sovok made alarm clocks with rubies, thermocompensated spring, etc. i could not say exactly why, prolly same factory made for submarine as for desktop ... )
mircea_popescu: you know, old watches did need to be set every day. we even discussed this in the logs, as to the function of big ben etc.
asciilifeform: ( aaand of course they marked it as 'canonical answer' , for then google to auto-return, etc .. ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: where 'evil libel, no such thing as...' etc
asciilifeform: near as i can tell
mircea_popescu: im not saying it's strinctly impossible bonluck or ssongyank or w/e makes cars just as good as bayernische krankenwerken or whatever. it is a fact though, i never looked at it seriously before. chiefly because never had to.
asciilifeform: fwiw i suspect that machine of same vintage as mircea_popescu's , but with slightly higher road clearance, would work even better
mircea_popescu: it stands to reason, too. "we made this thing to be driven on road, road is defined as no immovable obstacles taller than x, plox to keep in mind".
mircea_popescu: i do not believe any same-year made car during any of the years involved could have survived as a replacement. (i don't even take the newer / better ones for this sort of treck -- and tbh, i do not respect them NEARLY as much. i grew to love the cheap unassuming old car on the merits, which is to say what it'll take. like any woman.
mircea_popescu: except poor dood's spent MORE than that fixing his toyota so as to get the riteve hence. vindicating the point that... hm. white devil!
mircea_popescu: they check everyhing. (no joke, either, ticos are a serious folk). brakes, direction, i even get warnings that the front seat headrest is unattached (i keep it out deliberately, so as not to obstruct my front view)
mircea_popescu: bartholomew is driving my groundskeeper fellow to the brink of madness. it is the SECOND consecutive technical inspection it passed without any repairs, AT ALL. the poor guy, drives a cheap toyota, comes back from trhe test with lengthly lists of requisites EVERY time. last year he was very put off by the "pass on 1st try" thing, especially as the year prior he had seen the thing dump its fluids and have to be toed. but th
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> it si, it is. he's just being mean. << Only halfway. The other half is derechos as in derechos por cerdos humanos
BingoBoingo: Under the current criminal code, that might be interpreted as a sentence of community service with the guilty assigned to judge in order to work off his debt to society
mircea_popescu: i don't even mean radicals, or fast calculations of things like 149 * 16 as "well, 24 minus a unit"
asciilifeform: ( as pictured in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2978#selection-592.0-617.1 )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, that much is true, and yes, this 2nd link you unearth is also very likely (at least as far as i know) true : can't have at the same time what we discuss here and http://trilema.com/2013/squares-do-morals-a-porno/#selection-475.0-475.334 ; therefore i said http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-28#1905411 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the overarching point here is that merely http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-28#1905503 is very little argument -- the whore discussed is superlatively feminine, and as a factual matter the human species exists as extant because the females employ the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-28#1905562 item, specifically as "let's all you schmoes go to war, and [http://trilema.com/2017/the-perennial-harriette-wilson/#selection-111.0-111 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: upstack, to 'exploiting the winners is +ev strat' , this is entirely troo, for so long as you know how to eat'em without becoming infected with whatever made'em fat to begin with
mircea_popescu: yes, in theory. in practice, you have a finite set out of a necessarily large space -- as part and parcel of what cryptography IS.
asciilifeform: nao the q becomes, you later look at what came out of the wire. is it possible to conceive of a 'rng test' that the output would not (for particular p , taken as constant) fail ?
mircea_popescu: pretty sure more like a few mn are known, obtained as you say.\
mircea_popescu: imo item should be baked anyways, as a tmsr.crypto model object.
asciilifeform: well yes, q is re ~definition~ of 'working rng', as an abstract object
mircea_popescu: your rng working or not is aside the point ; we're discussing here random numbers as a mathematical abstraction, we're not even counting "well, your set of 4, 4, 4, 4 is not exactly an implementation of that abstraction"
asciilifeform: near as i can tell, the argument resolves to 'random dun exist, if beelzebub feels like it he will feed you 32 liars'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, the problem's not necessarily stated as you state it. i am not capable to know in advance WHAT attack will have to be faced.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, as to your earlier question : not such a large degree of crackpottery needed. consider that if i affirm today that a) given a list of however many ~randomly chosen~ witnesses from (1,n) b) the number k = x^2 + q x + p is going to be falsely identified as a prime number while n = q ^ 2 + p ^ 3, there is c) nothing you can practically do to give me the lie other than ~actually construct such numbers and check~.
asciilifeform: to the point that i'm at a loss to construct a crackpot hypothesis for the negative ( what would the loch ness monster here look like ? erry composite n, we know has 3+ / 4 of integers as proper witnesses. so where wouldja hide'em so that working rng doesn't find 1 in 32 shots before asteroid hits machine ? )
mircea_popescu: in any case, it seems to me that the a witnesses MUST be generated as rng(0, 2^4096) rather than rng (2^4095, 2^4096).
asciilifeform: whereas if you actually lift 32+ rng witnesses from a working rng (as in asciilifeform's demo, or diana_coman's proggy, and elsewhere where not koch.. ) actually converges (for so long as you actually have working rng)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc they used peroxide as oxidizer, rather than compressed o2
mircea_popescu: not as energy store ; as oxygenation tank.
asciilifeform: compressed gas aint so great as energy store, you lose just about errything you put in , to pv = nRT
asciilifeform: ( why not, will leave as exercise )
asciilifeform: was thought, if you have 160 hands on the ship, may as well also battery
mircea_popescu: trinque, as it happens i was gonna do a buncha small payments, but deedb ot not answering to !!withdraw ?
asciilifeform: all of this , as i understand, only is interesting if enemy knows (or can set) which will be your witnesses. cuz by basic m-r , 3/4 of possible inputs for witness will still give correct diagnosis of compositude
asciilifeform: ( as used in kochisms )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: takes same time as to find m-r false witness for anyffing else
asciilifeform: ( for n00bz -- prime gen parallelizes, obv., over as many cpu as you have. but ffa per se does not use threads, tho it can be run inside threads with no added headache )
Mocky: I may end up having a follow up vpatch for mpwp as well
asciilifeform: i expect that as moar folx eat ffa, we will have moar empirical figs to compare.
asciilifeform: ftr rk is effectively 2x, as measured, slower than this gauge box , on ffa.
asciilifeform deliberately uses oldest opteron in the torture room as 'standard ffa gauge' , if wasn't obv.
asciilifeform: ( mine, used as ref for all ffa figs, is opteron 2393SE @ 3.1G )
mircea_popescu: i dun see the problem, so it takers a minute. current gpg takes as much, and ssh which doesn't is sucja cryptojoke as to not be worth the mention.
asciilifeform: example is to illustrate style, i did not particularly doubt that it'd work as described .
mircea_popescu: it was a fleeting momentary thought! such as occurs in my box occasionally! i'm not proposing marriage over here!!1
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: fwiw everything I published v-versioned has the tests included as a subdir with its own .gpr file and all that; I'm not sure a fork of the V-tree is really needed for this (i.e. deleting a whole dir is easier than maintaining a for as far as I see it atm).
mircea_popescu: billymg, if you're happy with it, one thing you could do is patch your testing suite as an alternate patch off mp-wp genesis ; this way people looking to test can just use it (and patch atop it if need be) rather than write from scratch. ☟︎
Mocky: I had a dream 3 nights ago that I walked down a row of 4 houses and banged on each door as I went past yelling "send our your oldest girl" and the doors all opened and 4 female lions came running out as if to chase and attack me. But I stared them down and told them they are with me now. Apparently they were talking lions because they all said "ok" and then followed me as I walked off.
mircea_popescu: Mocky, pepin the short was the original carolingian king of the franks. started career as exactly that, "being paid to guard the household while selling tickets to rape the wives"
mircea_popescu: yeah. but the contrary consideration's certainly sound, "let's do things in the order they can be done in, as opposed to any other."
Mocky: Yes. and also firmly decided to make the mid term as short as possible
mircea_popescu: so basically what you're saying is that you're only firmly decided to stay in us for the ~mid term~ as opposed to "more than that" ?
Mocky: I am serious about finding a way out of mordor. I'm interested in both tech & non tech hole filling: giving the matter due consideration so as to avoid http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828117 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: rly as a church and all that line).
asciilifeform: asciilifeform sees tcp as a legacy tech, really
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand , this one would need either tcpism (not written yet) or unixsocketism (also afaik not written, aside from the sad adacorpse implementation in gnat std lib)
mircea_popescu: yet -- if it works as a bootstrapper it works as a bootstrapper ; and if it does not we understand why and wherefore.
mircea_popescu: as i said, i'd like to keep this open.
asciilifeform: i would not presently go as far as to say 'peh is ~the~ bootstrapper' ( current peh cannot even output a raw byte... ) but suspect that the solution will have approximately its shape.
asciilifeform: ( peh per se is a 'peh compiler', arguably, in that it can and does produce peh tapes as output, this is how e.g. keygen worx )
asciilifeform: all subs have 1 valid termination point, there is no early 'return'; ditto loops ( as of ch18 )
asciilifeform: ( recall incidentally the fate of 'bubble memory.' mega-invention, btw. d00d discovered that you dun need a tape deck to use tape, in a certain config of magnetic field, you can make the bits on tape ~walk~ in circles. and r/w'em as they move past a particular spot. )
mircea_popescu: obviously (i would hope) i'm not proposing any naive solution will necessarily work well ; i'm just saying that it's not obvious to me a smart solution isn't available somewhere. in point of fact not merely p, but ~the whole class of things for which it stands as a most illustrative example~ is, if arguably not new, in any case the continuation of work in fields and along lines neglected for at least three if not more than
mircea_popescu: but in any case no such thing as "random" exists in the fucking machine --- if it did, you wouldn't need to buy fg's for it, now would you.
mircea_popescu will import by reference the story of mel. what "random access", it's onlty random if you don't know what you're doing and at bootstrap phase the item's too close to starting position to have complexity-exploded out of your hands already as a matter of necessity.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's other constraints, e.g. peh is quite certainly not optimized for random-access on large data set , there is no support for even such thing as array
asciilifeform: funnily enuff, e.g. ch18 peh actually worx as 'a php' (i.e. can do string substitutions and elementary arithmetics... )
a111: Logged on 2019-03-26 19:58 mircea_popescu: bvt, http://archive.is/febOU#selection-255.67-255.135 challenge specifically offers you excellent entry point : there's a bunch of contact details available, what's "me" resolve to as a provision endpoint.
asciilifeform: bvt: imo c is intrinsically broken ~conceptually~ as a bootstrapping lang ( entirely aside from how it is broken as a ~platform~ lang, re which subj asciilifeform has entire www... ) -- in that it intrinsically demands a massive pile of nickel and dime utils ( bash, 'make', etc ) to work as usable platform
bvt: i also don't like how at the 'mes' stage a linux kernel 'magically' appears as the underlying substrape, while stage0 parts are designed to work without os
mircea_popescu: bvt, http://archive.is/febOU#selection-255.67-255.135 challenge specifically offers you excellent entry point : there's a bunch of contact details available, what's "me" resolve to as a provision endpoint. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: bvt: seems like mircea_popescu's original eyeball verdict was 100% on target? i.e. 'mes' is a pile o'shit masquerading as they usually do for a solution
mircea_popescu: (they're prolly trying to get into costa rica illegally, as nobody here can distinguiush nicas and mexicans. but anyway)
asciilifeform: iirc as recently as clinton era
mircea_popescu: poor but stupid yankee kids, hearing of something in that vein, imagined the ~same can be obtained not only very cheaply, but importantly using only items accessible -- the only enduring ideology of that place. and so... the yankee is moronic enough to act as if a feather suffices to be 2nd line english elite.)
mircea_popescu: (likbez : as grand tours became popularized, in the interim before cook's mass commercialization thereof, a lot of 2nd hand british elite kids were exposed to italian fashion and atmosphere ; gained an appreciation of aforeunknown pasta, ie maccaroni, and started a whole epicene fashion including ridiculous dress and assorted faggotry.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw in sovokistan churchill is moar famous as architect of intervention in '18
mircea_popescu: i don;t have a very clear view of patton ; but churchill is exactly as much a socialist as the whole temperance movement. he was unequivocally identified as such by ~all contemporaries, what, just because dumb soviet kid never heard of churchill other than for one newspaper notice dated 1945 this means something ? by the time hitler came to power churchill had been an openly socialist politician for a decade+
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i pictured '1947 'red' not as kennan et al tho, but as e.g. patton, churchill, et al - the folx who were ready to rearm germany an' proceed straight into ww3, and had to be stfu'd by the brass strictly on acct of truman having insufficient nuke pile (iirc atm ~7 or so)
a111: Logged on 2019-03-26 09:18 mircea_popescu: "The present generation of Russians have never known spontaneity of collective action. If, consequently, anything were ever to occur to disrupt the unity and efficacy of the Party as a political instrument, Soviet Russia might be changed overnight from one of the strongest to one of the weakest and most pitiable of national societies."
a111: Logged on 2019-03-26 08:58 mircea_popescu: nt: namely, the fact that the leadership is at liberty to put forward for tactical purposes any particular thesis which it finds useful to the cause at any particular moment and to require the faithful and unquestioning acceptance of that thesis by the members of the movement as a whole. This means that truth is not a constant but is actually created, for all intents and purposes, by the Soviet leaders themselves. It may v
a111: Logged on 2019-03-25 12:37 mircea_popescu: phf, why does http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_remove-tinymce-and-other-crud not look the same as http://btcbase.org/patches/mp-wp_html-comments-enabled ? i want ?inlinep=true FOREVAR!!!!
mircea_popescu: "The present generation of Russians have never known spontaneity of collective action. If, consequently, anything were ever to occur to disrupt the unity and efficacy of the Party as a political instrument, Soviet Russia might be changed overnight from one of the strongest to one of the weakest and most pitiable of national societies." ☟︎
mircea_popescu: nt: namely, the fact that the leadership is at liberty to put forward for tactical purposes any particular thesis which it finds useful to the cause at any particular moment and to require the faithful and unquestioning acceptance of that thesis by the members of the movement as a whole. This means that truth is not a constant but is actually created, for all intents and purposes, by the Soviet leaders themselves. It may v ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "Now it lies in the nature of the mental world of the Soviet leaders, as well as in the character of their ideology, that no opposition to them can be officially recognized as having any merit or justification whatsoever. Such opposition can flow, in theory, only from the hostile and incorrigible forces of [???]"
asciilifeform: ( in early 1900s, there was a fiction that fed gov 'only has power to tax', and so ban was dresses as a 'tax' )
mircea_popescu: how do you say "burghezo-mosieresc" in ru ? term as in "Despre politica externă antinațională a guvernelor burghezo-moșierești din România, în timpul politicii imperialiste de așa-zisă 'neintervenție' "
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'preoccupation with crimes' also comes in diff. variants. consider e.g. lafonde, vs the typical ameri-suburbanite who has never so much as personally seen a homo-lafondicus with naked eye but nevertheless fixated , etc
mircea_popescu: in a sense, the children have taken over the insane asylum -- to anyone outside they make just as good mental patients as the older ones ; but inside they move quicker and are more vivacious, which are natural advantages.
mircea_popescu: hanbot, it's not even coincidental that the pantsuit used "ts" as in trans-sexualism to liberate themselves from the traditional ("reds") socialist mindset and erupt like puss from a scab.