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mircea_popescu: the only one who can decide that two texts are the same text is one versed in the text. that's why they even needed fucking monks in the first place.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is no such "ghost of moses in the letters".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is no such birth. all words are is empty coin, long bereft of any original gold, all that's left is the congeal spit of successive generations. thesis is in some trilema somwwhere
mircea_popescu: diana_coman obviously ; but the trick is that "meat" also means dick.
mircea_popescu: which is why the original "do not link across v trees"
mircea_popescu: ie, this "independent parts in an automatic fashion" is a hope impossible in practice. the only way he can have it is if HE reads it, as it is found wherever it is found (eucrypt as it happens here), and then HE puts it in, as a regrind, ie, yes, "de novo" item.
mircea_popescu: the problem is that later on, eucrypt's smg_keccak will be pulled into the main to be used for purposes ; if EVEN LATER it gets a patch, phf will then not actually have a way to seamlessly "get just the patch", he will have to regrind at that time anyway.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: consider concretely the case of eucrypt's keccak. diana_coman is writing it as a direct derivation off genesis, meaning on extant v impls if one wanted to import it they could import JUST it, without the rest of eucrypt (it'll be pulled in later through the usual procedure in eucrypt itself). superficially this may seem like it encourages phf to go "o i know, i'll just link keccak patch into my codebase rather than regring (i
☟︎ mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-17#1771941 << it means the bar for what may be acceptable primitives is slightly lower than before ; this is not necessarily avoidable though, the advantage of having alphabet starts around having twenty or so letters only ; fifty letter "alphabet" is not much better than 5000 hieroglyphery.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: in other words, the only maker of independence in the realm of thought is the hand of man, and this can't be fixed.
mircea_popescu: because it'd need guile to do and guile is shit. if for no other reason. comprende ?
mircea_popescu: nothing prevents you from saying "this is the genesis of apeloyee's fantastical funicular, it consists of a cog i stole from alf's exceptional exsudator, some other bits i wrote myself and various parts i forgot where i stole" ; but something QUITE fundamental prevents you from writing down "include #fucksticks" and to have a helpful paperclip pop out of nowhere in your emacs guts and declare "this so far looks like you're pu
☟︎ mircea_popescu: sadly, until phf's improved diff hits the deck there's nothing we can do here.
mircea_popescu: mod6 the magic string diff uses is "+++ " ie three plusses AND A SPACE
mircea_popescu: if anyone is wondering, alf lives in a sausage plant. there's lots of meat.
mircea_popescu doesn't think greek tragedy is party to this discussion, but is overwhelmed by explaining why.
mircea_popescu: i can't think of major examples outside of the star wars thing (coulkdn't think of that either until pointed out). commedia is mostly brothers.
mircea_popescu: bread and butter of cheap fiction, "you don't know who your brother is"
mircea_popescu: inb4 apeloyee comes in, goes "oh, but actually... yes", alf is forever floored.
mircea_popescu: (but since we're on it -- the enduring interest in obfuscated-c is strictly this, "let us try and write a novel in orthogonal language ; this should be done in c because it's very much not orthogonal". became a self-recursing joke, that the practitioners don't even properly understand, just sorta-feel. BECAUSE they talk about it in natural languages.)
mircea_popescu: and all this goes right into that older thread of ambiguity, orthogonality and language -- you can never make a language that's orthogonal and ~useful~ in the natural sense. let alone "that anyone'd want to use".
☟︎ mircea_popescu: you could not have written such a tagging mechanism as it'd have permitted a machine to recognize the substance of what you were saying when discussing "pointers" which weren't.
mircea_popescu: and this identity is also fluent, because different things are the same thing, such as no further than earlier the "you really want a lisp stack". this recognition is only there because of personal knowledge, and absent otherwise.
mircea_popescu: the strong statement here is that the ~only~ possible identity bits of code have is based on ~personal memory~. to revisit the oft used bubblesort example -- any particular implementation of bubblesort IS bubblesort because ~you~ recognize it as such and for ~no other reason~, factual ~or possible~. consequently fits in head as the basis of code identity.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform quite evident ; but yes, i believe wrong problem to solve. "oh lord, how could bits of code have an identity ?" "why ?" "so they could be my girflriends" "Come on!"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: asciilifeform don't tell me you didn't take your volkskomputi to the commissariat for the mandatory urine injections or what was it.
mircea_popescu: some possible things need to be made before it can be decided.
mircea_popescu: why not actually do it then, and first construct an ada circular ring lisp-memory stack first ?
mircea_popescu: note how ffa ends up satisfying the greenspun rule, through the predictable entry point.
mircea_popescu: once you use "traditional" pointers, your "stack" is a heap.
mircea_popescu: whereby the jump is in the item pointed to, not in the mechanism of pointing
mircea_popescu: ah you don't actually mean to use pointers, just a lisp-style memory emulator for the stack itself
mircea_popescu: stack as linked list has a notion of next item on stack, yes ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo did you ever publish the datacenter price details ?
mircea_popescu: so is diana_coman ; and earlier ave1 ! truly spectacular republica output these days!
mircea_popescu: i see it takes teh forum 5 minutes to figure out the easter egg in there...
mircea_popescu rests easy in the knowledge he's penned the most outrageous item ever written in english, by such a margin as to permanently defy competition
mircea_popescu: ima have to finish this megalog tomorro, too exhausted.
mircea_popescu: saying "well i can't protect car from usage of idiots" is one thing, but having the gas and break pedals not ever interchange is the other thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it rather looks like the elaboratest trollcoin so far.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform gotta have a foundation like tits gotta have a boar.
mircea_popescu: "Cardano is a decentralised public blockchain and cryptocurrency project and is fully open source. Cardano is developing a smart contract platform which seeks to deliver more advanced features than any protocol previously developed. It is the first blockchain platform to evolve out of a scientific philosophy and a research-first driven approach. Thedevelopment team consists of a large global collective of expert engineers and
mircea_popescu: o check it out asciilifeform "cardano" the coin is up 25%!!1