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asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-07-2015#1188874 << 'brightest' is not really the word ☝︎
asciilifeform: i don't give a flying fuck personally, but the terminology might sow some confusion among readership
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu minor nitpick with article: 'bitcoin core' is what the gavinists call their turd. the traditional client is generally known as 'bitcoind'.
asciilifeform: 'The average C/C++ programmer's intuition says that uninitialized variables are fine as long as you don't depend on their values. A more experienced programmer probably suspects that uninitialized variables are fine as long as you don't access them. ... Well, it turns out that even if the caller does nothing at all with the return value – ever... ... the program might bomb.'
assbot: GNU GLOBAL source code tagging system ... ( http://bit.ly/1NHxhXK )
asciilifeform: ;;later tell jurov http://www.gnu.org/software/global << interesting potential replacement for 'lxr'
williamdunne: danielpbarron: Thanks, I'll fix it to take that into account tomorrow
decimation: "if you don't have a debt jubileee it's like you are shoveling jews into the furnace"
decimation: lol that Piketty guy is now a paid shill for greece: https://medium.com/@gavinschalliol/thomas-piketty-germany-has-never-repaid-7b5e7add6fff
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 20:06:46; williamdunne: danielpbarron: Twitter's URL shortening is unpredictable. Basically it just checks if it can fit in 140 characters pre-shortening and trims what won't
danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2015#1188450 << all urls are shortened to the same length which is 22 characters, leaving 118 left for the title plus a space to separate it from the url. very few titles are longer than this ☝︎
asciilifeform: mats: that's almost exactly a description of 'phuctor', l0l
mats: you'll just have to find out
asciilifeform: kakobrekla, anybody else: can we get a mirror of that half-megatonne of shit ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: can't be any worse than bitcoind
mats: you'll not enjoy reading the key server code then
asciilifeform: better to have nothing than a shit-wine hybrid barrel.
assbot: Logged on 06-07-2015 01:23:43; mats: i haven't noticed any actual bugs, but its apparent the person who wrote the port literally just copied it over without using python idioms like factories
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-07-2015#1188886 << the only reason i found it readable ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-07-2015 01:21:27; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2015#1188232 << is this a problem after syncing ?
asciilifeform: note that 363954 is 1) past the nominal ph0rkpoint 2) on a public node
assbot: Logged on 06-07-2015 02:22:58; mats: half a tb of emails and code there.
asciilifeform: mats, mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-07-2015#1188920 << gotta mirror this ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-07-2015 00:47:52; mircea_popescu: because i am so amused that someone could use the relatively advanced keyboard but not know how to do THAT.
ag3nt_zer0: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-07-2015#1188871 << please excuse my obtuseness, but what is "THAT"? ability to resolve "THE PROBLEM" of a thoughtchain fork? ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 06-07-2015 00:47:24; mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> resolution of thoughtchain forks is not even close to a solved problem. << the resolution per se is probably as you point out not even approachable as a problem, which is unsurprising seeing how it logically predates the notion of problem. nevertheless, the resolution of THE PROBLEM of thoughtchain forks is actually a very well understood thing.
ag3nt_zer0: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-07-2015#1188869 << well I am trying to grasp what is being talked about here and what I am missing ☝︎
decimation: critical self examination is the root of learning
ag3nt_zer0: just looking at the log here and feeling stupid haha
ag3nt_zer0: hey whats up decimation thanks
mod6: ( & perhaps a different tool )
assbot: [OPEN] Callgraph for therealbitcoin, in SVG format. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1IDAl7I )
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://trilema.com/2015/open-callgraph-for-therealbitcoin-in-svg-format/ << 1 btc. << fwiw I did try creating the callgraphs in doxygen with SVG format; the graphs looked ok, but the links were all broken etc. maybe someone else has a better way to solve this.
mats: (they got pwned, if that wasn't clear)
mats: half a tb of emails and code there. ☟︎
scoopbot_revived: [OPEN] Callgraph for therealbitcoin, in SVG format. http://trilema.com/2015/open-callgraph-for-therealbitcoin-in-svg-format/
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 17:59:30; asciilifeform: also interestingly, it has 10 peers and no tx garbage scrolling in debug.log
assbot: [OPEN] Callgraph for therealbitcoin, in SVG format. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JIhNVn )
mircea_popescu: anyway, ima support this. brb.
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 16:30:55; ben_vulpes: you have the weirdest fetishes.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2015#1188295 <<< he has a point. how else to think ? ☝︎
assbot: MPIF (F.MPIF) June 2015 Statement on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JIg7LE )
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/mpif-fmpif-june-2015-statement/ << i kid you not , tangibles moved by 20.666 this month
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 15:58:04; mats: iirc usg has provided four frigates for naval defense, a pathetic number in any case that could not stop any mildly determined attempt to storm the island
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2015#1188270 << they're as good as the entire us navy, which idem could not stop. so it makes sense, they're serving all the symbolic purpose that can be served, at the cost that can be borne. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 15:33:42; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-07-2015#1187470 << what i was saying there bears repeating. if we had a fleet of pogos deployed, they would ~all~ be paperweights now. and for so long as we use the cpp turd, there can be no guarantee of this kind of thing not happening in the future.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2015#1188263 << this is true. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: otherwise, the lefty "tactics" are purely sexual behaviours. if you examine it through the lens of "i am looking at an anal child", it's readily apparent they're seeking parental contact.
mircea_popescu: so to sum up : not usian but jewish ; not effectual generally but once ; not effectual at all but VERY expensive.
mircea_popescu: got practically some indonesians or somesuch. not even counting the significant costs to the helpers - the british empire ended up dismantled as a result, in a manner very much reminiscent of the "fetlife dmca's mp, and as a result some random dc in the us pays for mp's yacht".
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 15:17:05; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2015#1188084 << this is known, from mr mold's articles, as the 'kick the dog till it bites then shoot it' algo
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2015#1188255 << i dunno that it's known as anything from there, but i'll point out to you that a) the only time this was ever successful was when the jews did it to hitler in the 30s. the cost was, a practical end to that ethnic group, because the jews calling themselves jewish today are not the central european hasids who were to jewry in 1920 what china is to asia today. they ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "you wanted to benefit from responsible disclosure protections, you should have been in the wot" "but at the time i made that decision it seemed a no brainer, why expend the effort" "right. this is why you die." ☟︎☟︎
mats: i haven't noticed any actual bugs, but its apparent the person who wrote the port literally just copied it over without using python idioms like factories ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 15:11:48; asciilifeform: in general principle: destroy backups (the morons often make this possible!), produce leaks from which there ~can be no recovery~, etc
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2015#1188251 << i can see this. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 14:50:21; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu node on dulap is still wedged. and apparently this is not a terribly good place for a node, phuctor gets i/o-starved and dies
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2015#1188232 << is this a problem after syncing ? ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: by now it's getting to be a safe assumption ;/
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 11:18:09; punkman: on a related note, kinda annoying reading through logs and trying to read all those expired dpastes
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2015#1188136 << hm, this is an issue isn't it ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the sad result of post-war welfarism being that "the west" is now in this sad position where the brightest minds are in the heads of some unwashed horde somewhere in the mideast. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: just the fact that they enjoy a defacto monopoly on criticism makes YOU backward.
mircea_popescu: decimation their branchline is in no sense backwards. it is currently the consensus of thinking people (alf said "ru", but really, i agree, everyone with any sense agrees, ru is no determinant) that they are in point of fact broadly correct, ☟︎
mircea_popescu: because i am so amused that someone could use the relatively advanced keyboard but not know how to do THAT. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i've been peppering ag3ntzero guy with exactly this for the past week
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> resolution of thoughtchain forks is not even close to a solved problem. << the resolution per se is probably as you point out not even approachable as a problem, which is unsurprising seeing how it logically predates the notion of problem. nevertheless, the resolution of THE PROBLEM of thoughtchain forks is actually a very well understood thing. ☟︎
decimation: might even scheme to move the whale's path
decimation: the krill could claim to compose nearly all of the wale
mircea_popescu: "that thing which the usg deems an occupation in the manner krill occupies a whale"
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> (the cost is not apparent while the spoils of war - american tanks, ru/cn-contributed ammo, asian electronics - are plentiful. but try after!) << quite exactly this.
decimation: as in their ideas only look foundational in retrospect
decimation: I would also note that hardly anyone who builds on the mainline 'thought trunk' is aware of the fact that they are doing so
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that math wot reduces to, having the right people to laugh at you.
decimation: asciilifeform: indeed. it is an interesting point about the muslims, having to square the circle of islamic teaching forced them off the 'trunk' onto a backwards branchline
asciilifeform: it is not even clear that this is something you would actually ~want~ a 'solution' to
asciilifeform: resolution of thoughtchain forks is not even close to a solved problem.
assbot: Logged on 15-11-2014 00:37:34; asciilifeform: let's pretend that it just happened to fall upon the earth.
asciilifeform: why not, e.g., vernam (one time pad)? seemingly low-tech. but in point of fact, i can picture the conversation. 'provably unbreakable.' 'by what proof' '...' 'ah, but this mathematics is not in our wot.'
asciilifeform: doing anything more recent - even, e.g., a 16th century italian cipher like gerolamo cardano's grille - would be quite inconsistent with the whole framework
asciilifeform: the fella we keep bringing up, who directed his followers to use caesar's cipher, was actually being the very example of intellectual consistency here.
asciilifeform: (the cost is not apparent while the spoils of war - american tanks, ru/cn-contributed ammo, asian electronics - are plentiful. but try after!)
asciilifeform: look how much of the 'thoughtchain' the folks flying the mohammedan flag ended up having to ditch
asciilifeform: makes global thermonukefest look like a cheap carnival ride
asciilifeform: or that other thread, which i can't seem to find, where we spoke of how 'maths wot is not essential for being published, but for even having publishable ideas instead of burning your life on fibonacci sequences or some other solved/irrelevant dead end' ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
assbot: Logged on 05-11-2014 00:20:25; asciilifeform: re: maths wot << it is important to understand why this happens.
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 22:38:21; mircea_popescu: this is in fact a big problem, and it was a major scientific advantage. in 3000 ad. five fucking thousand years ago.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2015#1188797 << very related thread >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-11-2014#910176 ☝︎☝︎
cazalla: nah, mircea_popescu said that, must've misread or we've gone inception or something
asciilifeform is pleased to not have this problem
BingoBoingo: This is a crisis of existential proportions! I don't know who the Buttcoin public thinks I am.
BingoBoingo: And anyways I thought you said they said I was MPOE-PR
BingoBoingo: Ah, I thought you were MP
cazalla: it was just a oneliner that you are probably mp
BingoBoingo: Does anyone have the actual text of the comment?
williamdunne: Yeah, they deleted it before I could pay my witicisms
assbot: Influence of Gavin Andresen and his fellow developers of the Bitcoin Core client waning to new lows as their attempts to force misguided efforts end in disaster. : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1G26Qq1 )
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: No I clicked the link and it gave an error instead of showing great comment.
BingoBoingo: Apparently reddit ate those allegations/compliments
BingoBoingo: Where is this comment calling me MPOE-PR?