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scriba: Logged on 2019-04-27: [14:04:48] <asciilifeform> you turn on the mains, thing compiles the coupla MB of sores kept in nonvolatile. this -- runs. you go an' change a line, it recompiles that section, at same time
as the cache refreshes.
mp_en_viaje:
http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20190427/#77 << there's a lot of hopeful thinking in this "change a line, compile the line, move on". i know you said "section" instead of line, but this is a cop-out : you meant the same
as line, but didn't want to string-match the string line, so used a new string to mean, on one hand, every good about line or
as close
as possible, and on the other hand, no ill about line, whatsoever. this isn't very useful : in point of
mp_en_viaje: the old Pantsuit guard's preferred strategy of taxing carbon dioxide output
as a means of connecting socialisms across the globe under a singular Pantsuit order. << that's quite the fucking point, stalin's old dream finally came close to realisation, global socialism spearheaded by the only effectual tool it ever found : taxation.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: sorry, I was away; but yes, I'm using /etc/hosts and it's set
as 104.131.72.249 in mine
diana_coman: asciilifeform: there's a difference between ruled out and default
as it were
lobbes:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-27#1910057 << while not necessarily mutually exclusive, I understood the two branches
as "those who want to import postgres
as a dependence (logbot/logbot-command-router) and those who don't (ircbot/trilemabot)".
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2019-04-27 11:23 mp_en_viaje: and to think THIS, specifically THIS promise of the internet, the computer, the future, got implemented for the mass market
as apple library and google books and what the fuck not. seriously guyse, point and click interfaces and pageflip animations and "return the virtual book to library" ?
mp_en_viaje: the link's there, it gets made clickable anyway, it's good enough
as it is.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-27 06:38 spyked:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-25#1910038 <-- I suppose that might work. otoh, the only (small) complexity that arises is that, while in the former case the link is clearly the first element (in both order and priority), in the latter case it's the other way around. this means that the announcer needs to make sure that the ~site and ~title don't result in the ~link being cut off (
as part of the anchor) and
mp_en_viaje: that way you get both "from each according to ability" -> 0
as well
as "to each according t oneed" -> inf.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-25 21:46 asciilifeform: or, take the retardation common to all current pc os -- the explicit juggling of compiled binaries ( really compiled bins ought not to be directly handled by operator, but exist in same sense
as disk cache , system
as visible to user oughta consist 100% of source, and sectionally rebuilt when changed )
mp_en_viaje: if experience's any guide, 99% of linux userland is not useful for any purpose ; of which remaining 1% 99% has to be rewritten anyway
as the extant item is so fucking terribly designed and worse implemented
as to cost literally
as much
as it produces ; of the reminder 1% i can at the present time think of very few examples.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-25 21:29 asciilifeform: bvt:
as for tcc , i suspect ( but do not know for fact ) that good % of commonplace linux userland is married to gcc nonstandard knobs
mp_en_viaje: granted, my old style library i grew up with was two to three degrees of magnitude larger than 9mb ; but it sure
as fuck took a bunch of people way the fuck more than 15 hours to stitch it all together. and there's 60 seconds in a minute, not 10, and there's 60 minutes in an hour, not ten. and so the fuck on.
mp_en_viaje: there's nothing in nature
as fucking dumb
as people can get once they start trying to not leave any children behind.
mp_en_viaje: and to think THIS, specifically THIS promise of the internet, the computer, the future, got implemented for the mass market
as apple library and google books and what the fuck not. seriously guyse, point and click interfaces and pageflip animations and "return the virtual book to library" ?
☟︎ mp_en_viaje: incidentally, this is both the traditional
as well
as a quite effectual way of learning things.
spyked: diana_coman, tbh I'm not sure, so I'm posing it
as a question. there's also prolly some merit to the idea of each bot having, optionally, a logotron attached to it (since it's already listening...)
spyked:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-25#1910038 <-- I suppose that might work. otoh, the only (small) complexity that arises is that, while in the former case the link is clearly the first element (in both order and priority), in the latter case it's the other way around. this means that the announcer needs to make sure that the ~site and ~title don't result in the ~link being cut off (
as part of the anchor) and
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2019-04-24 14:36 mp_en_viaje:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909529 << the idea isn't to get tcc to compile ada. the idea is to destroy gcc -- cut the "useful compilation half" into an ada compiler ; cut the shitlands compilation half into a small weight something else. there is no republican future for gcc
as a gcc in the foss / linus-stallman sense of the term.
mircea_popescu: wholly mobile mircea_popescu works fine exactly
as per design.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-24 16:51 mp_en_viaje: strikes me
as born-in-50s sorta guy tho.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-24 16:49 mp_en_viaje: bvt, do not despair, even if these do not work out, they're still worth doing. depressing
as it may be, at least we know, at least we do the homework, etc.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-24 14:33 mp_en_viaje:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909527 << drop gcc entirely ; drop all c code entirely ; rely on tcc
as a scripting language to turn whatever snippets of c into object code that we haven't yet thrown away ; and for quick prototyping, where one's stuck getting a mass of 1mn shitlocs interop with 10k loc's worth of a whole universe
BingoBoingo:
As far
as I can tell Maduro is more entrenched than any of the Middle Eastern strongmen the US targetted.
mp_en_viaje: but anyway, pretty epic case of co-opting usg.blue's "orange revolution" material into court fucktoy / clown. i suppose he got the typically pantsuit fake opposition
as cheaply
as could be had.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-30 18:04 asciilifeform: ecl is a 'black art' incidentally. for instance, it runs 'backwards' voltagewise, with ground-
as-positive, and needs negative supply
mp_en_viaje: pump
as you will.
as a factual matter, conncted gpu fucks your board like a solid drinking habit fucks your slavegirl.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-24 17:03 mp_en_viaje: the radeon things, yes, which is why they were never nearly
as watt-efficient etc.
mp_en_viaje: not quite
as similar
as how alf-designed memory wouild be ; but more similar than ~anything else.
mp_en_viaje: (note, i'm not even remotely saying 100% hand-made. but they had ~something~, that afaik was never found. and it sure
as fuck wasn't just a software layer on whatever off the shelf verilogizer.
mp_en_viaje: the radeon things, yes, which is why they were never nearly
as watt-efficient etc.
☟︎ mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, not necessarily a matter in those practical terms. a bike / ride-on lawnmower "suffices"
as automobile, but it is still ~ridiculous~, specifically by the very poor fit of design to usage.
mp_en_viaje: bvt, do not despair, even if these do not work out, they're still worth doing. depressing
as it may be, at least we know, at least we do the homework, etc.
☟︎ mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, or
as buffett put it back in the day his brain still worked, "when a manager with a reputation for success attempts to tackle a problem with a reputation for intractability, it is the manager's reputation that ends up tarnished"
mp_en_viaje: and these aren't mere words. it is what i see these people
as, from the last poettering to the foremost stallman or linus, including the whole menagerie of "
i just wanted to suck dicks" anodyne anons, be they zx wharever or oj whatever or whichever other one.
mp_en_viaje: thus therefore, i do not see the need to continue supporting c
as a mental construct. even having to reimplement "everything" (ie, practically, nothing at all) from outside is preferable to an attempt at continuing c.
mp_en_viaje: if i make someone work with c, it's perceived
as a punishment.
mp_en_viaje: so, to answer the q : get
as much
as possible of system working on actual systems lang ; get
AS LITTLE
AS POSSIBLE on tcc.
mp_en_viaje: this "gcc is how you call the universal compiler" is cut of the same cloth
as "the united states is the name good people give to truth, beauty, and everything good" -- of no import or interest, past pure comedic "lmao check those country bumpkins out, they really believe god was born in mobile"
mp_en_viaje:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909529 << the idea isn't to get tcc to compile ada. the idea is to destroy gcc -- cut the "useful compilation half" into an ada compiler ; cut the shitlands compilation half into a small weight something else. there is no republican future for gcc
as a gcc in the foss / linus-stallman sense of the term.
☝︎☟︎ a111: Logged on 2019-04-23 19:44 bvt:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909396 << do you mean going [preinstalled gcc6] -> tcc -> gcc2.95 -> gcc4.7 -> gcc4.9 for cuntoo? or drop gcc entirely, try to get
as much
as possible running on tcc?
mp_en_viaje:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909527 << drop gcc entirely ; drop all c code entirely ; rely on tcc
as a scripting language to turn whatever snippets of c into object code that we haven't yet thrown away ; and for quick prototyping, where one's stuck getting a mass of 1mn shitlocs interop with 10k loc's worth of a whole universe
☝︎☟︎ mp_en_viaje:
as in, "driver who won't crash your car worth 9k drivers who can't crash your car"
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i dunno,
as a factual matter i suspect a wouldn't is worth 9k couldn'ts.
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile ustards fucked the model, but this doesn't mean it went away
as a model. quite possible the chinos get it, made themselves plausibly-denied federation.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-23 16:44 BingoBoingo:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909375 << This was exceptional in that it involved the uniform wearing sort of troop
as opposed to the known to be incredibly successful irregular forces.
a111: 2019-02-19 <ave1> Btw asciilifeform, I had to switch my cheap NFS account to a more expensive one
as php 5.6 is no longer supported in their new setup. I expect that sometime, at the end of this year, 5.6 will also disappear from "production" sites.
a111: Logged on 2019-04-23 19:44 bvt:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-23#1909396 << do you mean going [preinstalled gcc6] -> tcc -> gcc2.95 -> gcc4.7 -> gcc4.9 for cuntoo? or drop gcc entirely, try to get
as much
as possible running on tcc?
lobbes: next up on my conveyor is to publish a vpatch for the auctionbot proper,
as right now I've only provided the 'command router' it sits on. I aim to have that out by Sunday the latest
a111: Logged on 2019-03-17 15:42 mircea_popescu: matches well that group of "transsexuals" who evidently enough are so preoccupied with cunt, they just want one of their own. about
as "transsexual"
as the compulsive gambler who buys himself a slot machine for his "den" is "transeconomic",
mp_en_viaje:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-22#1909271 << we picked 4.something
as an arbitrary cutoff at some point illo tempore, through a mostly passive schelling / ad hoc agreement procedure. whatever the merits of the actual spot picked -- picking MULTIPLE ones is bad in the sense you get the downside multipled and nothing else.
☝︎ mp_en_viaje: AND, with all the experience from ffa, you actually got what you need
as a basis to actually make that megaspire work.
mp_en_viaje: when push comes to shove, the dude writing the page about "how to fix c" that seemed sane on superficial examination will come out
as exactly the same mind
as what produced the problem in the first place.
a111: 2019-02-19 <ave1> Btw asciilifeform, I had to switch my cheap NFS account to a more expensive one
as php 5.6 is no longer supported in their new setup. I expect that sometime, at the end of this year, 5.6 will also disappear from "production" sites.
spyked: meanwhile, asciilifeform's lappie arrived last week, I'ma encuntooate it soon. I expect it'll be a bit of a challenge to compile on 1GB of RAM: cuntoo bootstrapping sadly requires building gcc-5, which iirc asks for more than that. either way, I'ma put this on the list
as the next item to document.
BingoBoingo: Not everywhere
as in the mumps outbreak last year in the Cowork.
As in, bitches be panicking and lining up for vaccination vans.