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asciilifeform: 'He seemed to try his FBI handler's patience when he suggested at the last minute that they switch from packing the explosives into remote-control cars and instead use a van.' << lol!!
asciilifeform: lol i pictured BingoBoingo's flat as a sort of partizan lair, chairs made from ammo crates etc
asciilifeform: maeks sense. 'flag vs field officers'
asciilifeform: fair
asciilifeform: dunno, mircea_popescu is actually quite effective manager, when he's helped with e.g. minutiae of iron. and asciilifeform appreciates his unofficial help to date.
asciilifeform: sad to hear. duty of commander then falls to mod6 . asciilifeform will take over the sysop duties that ben_vulpes has been volunteering for. the search for treasurer is on.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in principle. in practice, very difficult ( in asciilifeform's understanding, entirely impractical ) to avoid your model being poisoned at the heart by the retardation of the iron ( dma, interrupts, whole orchestra of horrors that prevent anything like effectual isolation of processes , esp in kernel, and -- more insidiously -- prevent sane model of computation even in head )
asciilifeform: they wrote strictly bicameral thing, '0' (kernel, do whatever to whomever) and '3' (on unix planet, aka userland, process lives in own map)
asciilifeform: orig intel's design included intermediate rings 1,2. but microshit never used'em
asciilifeform: kernel already runs in (x86ological terminology) ring0
asciilifeform: ( where there are, for obvious reason, no memory protections etc )
asciilifeform: bsods happen in kernelspace.
asciilifeform: ( to carry on the analogy, in x86's retarded memprotections, you can ~spy on cunt~ of neighbour. but not insert into, unless she is kept in your potato cellar. )
asciilifeform: only when she is kept with the same potatoes.
asciilifeform: far better, to dispense with 'accidental overwritings', period.
asciilifeform: even on 386 you won't (accidentally) overwrite other-guy's
asciilifeform: i have somewhat difficult time picturing the win from auto-overwriting. 'ooops you brought home 1 too many potatoes, you just overwrite gurl's spleen'
asciilifeform: what's the win from auto-wrapping , anyway
asciilifeform: as reliable as the iron. and if you want to mod your pointers, you can, writers of e.g. nintendo, etc emulators, do
asciilifeform: (mmap)
asciilifeform: this is sorta what you already get in current-day unixen
asciilifeform: all known approaches to gc , fall into 1 of these 3 cuts.
asciilifeform: efs forbidden) , copies to new space. aka 'semispace'. 3) errything else. high-tech , complicated, 'multi-generational' gc, with 'nurseries', etc. imho best implemented in iron, and quite difficult to get it right.
asciilifeform: there are 3 basic cuts of gc. 1) simplest -- no gc. you cons N times, and you're through. this is actually practical ( see the last coupla gc threads ) for scripting lang, where proggy runs for a coupla seconds, on inputs of known size, etc 2) 'stop & copy'. simplest gc, implemented in 1950s-1970s lisps, and by erry student in school. proggy runs out of space -- stops, finds what is alive and what is dead via refcounting (circular r
asciilifeform: re gc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: plox to expand ?
asciilifeform: fromloper: i recommend to read the logs, http://btcbase.org/log/
asciilifeform: fromloper: you're on the air! who might you be ?
asciilifeform: !!up fromloper
asciilifeform: ohai mod6
asciilifeform bbl,meat
asciilifeform: ( i.e. <1kg, 12+ hrs of run, 0 nobus, etc etc )
asciilifeform: i'd pay a coupla btc for a Trooly Working lappy. if such a thing, in some shangri-la, existed...
asciilifeform: ( sadly i ~expect~ the laptop crapola, it has never worked reliably and prolly never will )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: overall it was, in 'doom' terminology, a '100% kills' trip, 0 unexpected anyffings, really
asciilifeform: ( clothing arguably went 'for phree', as it was used to pad the machine crates )
asciilifeform: but at certain point 'time is money'
asciilifeform: could prolly have bought changes of clothing there, even.
asciilifeform: the toothpaste, too..
asciilifeform: aha, thought of this already after launched.
asciilifeform: i wish i were making this up, lol
asciilifeform: even bought a lighter toothbrush..
asciilifeform: every gram , in the end, was spoken for.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform was on a mass-constrained mission, recall.
asciilifeform: i have a box with 2nd hole, but it's a modern i7 thing and ugh, and on top of this it weights like 4kg
asciilifeform: x60 dun have a 2nd hole
asciilifeform: aa
asciilifeform: 2nd one , turned out, was breathing its last, suddenly wouldn't even charge, jettisoned it right there
asciilifeform: didn't help much
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i had 2 in BingoBoingostan
asciilifeform: i'll admit to having played a crappy www-based game thing where you learn jp, while waking up and the kettle is boiling, but that's the closest thing
asciilifeform: aa
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wassat ?
asciilifeform: phf: interestingly, none of the planes that go to BingoBoingostan, appeared to have sockets ( maybe in firstclass, they do ? asciilifeform wouldn't know , has never sat there )
asciilifeform: phf: yeah, great until you're on a plane, or worthless chinese orc-to-human mains adapter breaks ( happened to asciilifeform in BingoBoingostan ), or sitting on BingoBoingo's roof , or, or.
asciilifeform: x86 -- suxx.
asciilifeform: and it ain't as if the thing could run for moar than 2-3 hrs on a charge even when new.
asciilifeform: last yr i bought what claimed to be an original unit, from warehouse. croaked in coupla weeks. ( li-ion cells -- don't keep )
asciilifeform: ( you can pay moar for 'japan', but really it's just same cells, re-stickered , genuine ones are ~unobtainium )
asciilifeform: 1 problem is that the li-ion cells on the market, are all ~same chinese liquishit as what's in the aftermarket batteries to begin with
asciilifeform: i have a capacitative welder nao, will have to try hand-rebatterying at some point. ( will need to find how to reset the embedded charge monitor thing they've got )
asciilifeform: ( batteries have become a first class bitch, they last for 2-3 months , hundred charges or so and straight to rubbish bin )
asciilifeform: seems like my x60 will have to be made to last for some years.
asciilifeform: not until we break it.
asciilifeform: and i cannot in good conscience encourage other folx to buy it.
asciilifeform: for asciilifeform it was originally wanted as a box for travel . really not imho suitable for the purpose, in light of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1825108 . ☝︎
asciilifeform: yes, iirc that very same
asciilifeform: whole escapade mostly succeeded so far in being a time sink for asciilifeform , and little else ☟︎
asciilifeform: re: cr50, fwiw i have pretty much whole thing multiply massaged in ida, code/data mapped, got good % of the functions 'usefully' named. but so far no dice in finding a usable hole.
asciilifeform: ( my old userland doesn't give you a working nic, either )
asciilifeform: phf: it's ~useless to do just about anything with that box without the snake
asciilifeform: phf: if you get a black screen, chances are that it didn't boot the kernel
asciilifeform: it switches on the lcd light, etc
asciilifeform: ( not google's, but shitlinux, iirc 'arch' )
asciilifeform: however i used the evil kernel, haven't yet built a kernel for c101pa
asciilifeform: screen too
asciilifeform: phf: console, via snake
asciilifeform: oh hey
asciilifeform: 'With a capacity of 24 GWh, this new battery factory should enable them to significantly increase production with a total battery production capacity of 60 GWh' << lulzy, sorta like measuring output of condom factory in liters
asciilifeform: ( the pilot plant kernel was built, believe or not, in hotel, right there on the coffee table, definitely needs some refinement )
asciilifeform: prolly i oughta make this standard
asciilifeform: lobbes: iptables will work if you build the kernel ( there is a tarball with patched kernel on all pizarro rockchip boxen ) with the requisite flags ☟︎
asciilifeform: ^ tlp. see also.
asciilifeform: !#s feel like a trader
asciilifeform: i've nfi what one gotta have in place of brains, in crankcase, to fall for this nonsense.
asciilifeform: ( complete with kycism etc )
asciilifeform: i.e. they pay ( promise to pay.. ? ) in lolcoin
asciilifeform: !!up douchebag
asciilifeform: i work in the saeculum for the local dubloons, just enuff to pay the bills and keep the experimental budget topped up, like naggum et al. dun mean i particularly care to sell body for it off hours.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: entirely aware. even if google et al paid as promised ( something i'll believe when i see it with own eyes ) why the fuck would i want to trade a genuinely valuable find for taxolade.
asciilifeform: entirely aware
asciilifeform: see also http://btcbase.org/log/2015-05-30#1148635 , http://btcbase.org/log/2015-06-14#1163908 , http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758226 , elsewhere. ☝︎☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: afaik ~no actual dollars 'harmed in the making of this film'(tm)(r)
asciilifeform: 'pay'
asciilifeform: ( said 'offer', naturally, consists of 'give it to us and maybe we'll think about paying, lol, sucker' )
asciilifeform: does'em the expected amt of good.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: funnily enuff, google et al already 'offer' 150k and moar of 'really, we promise' printolade.
asciilifeform: phf: copied the layout blindly from vendor's example shitlinux
asciilifeform: phf: iirc alignment
asciilifeform: lol!!