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mp_en_viaje: mwanwhile in other coincidental great things, i found
the article where (among other great things, such
as early warnings to beings an engineer) i discuss the problem of toddlers and dynamic equilibrium. which, i recall, was wanted and not found at some point somewhat recently -- i just can't anymore find where that happened.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-26 06:08:34 mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, imo all the rest can stay. also imo it is more important to be right than principled. the principles can be written in afterwards, for
as long
as you're right ; if you're wrong no writ will save you anyway.
trinque: speaking of updating ratings, in reflecting, I've been quite affected by the year's events
as amply evidenced in recent logs.
deedbot: diana_coman updated rating of shrysr from 2 to -8 << fuck off granted,
as he clearly prefers.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, imo all the rest can stay. also imo it is more important to be right than principled. the principles can be written in afterwards, for
as long
as you're right ; if you're wrong no writ will save you anyway.
diana_coman: jfw: Keksum's 3rd genesis
is now signed and mirrored;
as you've gathered already the previous comments on your article directly, I linked that and there's no need that I see for an additional article; also, you messed up something with your Keksum's article title now.
mp_en_viaje: you're not even a witness here, to be producing something like say
the smickles affidavit. so far the only way that thing can be classified
as is a letter of credit, i guess ? you're saying i should give mike_c some dough
as you think he's good for it ?
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: MPEx is built on
GPG contracts upheld voluntarily. Introducing "these GPG contracts must be upheld always and forever no matter the cost
as if they were fiat contracts" would be subversion. For that, in representing the claim I can't say "This must be paid no matter what" or other constructions along that line without attacking a
mp_en_viaje: there's a reason wikitards & redditards & etc waste their days away. that reason might no be, but just
as well might have plenty to do with our neglect of running the slut competitions.
BingoBoingo: The more specifc construction that the US is a Chinese buying internment camp also seems to work. Kinda the defining struggle of the Trumpreich. Pantsuits and others wholly owned by the Chinese needlessly make noises to impress their captors, Chinese largely indifferent
as they can just wait for this little bit of excitement amongst the white worms to pass.
mp_en_viaje: meanwhile while we're talking, the former us state of texas is being taken over by an emergent new world isis, undeclared
as such, but stronger nevertheless, the "cartels" in pantsuitspeak.
mp_en_viaje: no joke about the spanyards, either.
Mientras que, bajo el peso del trigo, los ejes cansados los siento quejar, yo, anudando mi pena a esa queja, con cantos y silbos te sé acompañar. is a fucking thing, which they did. thoroughly, and well -- or if not well, then
as well
as could be done, for sure.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-19 10:03:44 BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Despite the long absence mike_c has made a substantial act of submission to the Republican power structure
as gated by the Web of Trust. Over time, the bar for demonstrations of submission made by absentees that should have known better... I can only see it rising.
Hence the screw turns clarification on the strategy last night lobbes: BingoBoingo: This makes sense on reflection,
as it would seem like pegging things specifically to process is a dubious path to walk
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-19 10:03:44 BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Despite the long absence mike_c has made a substantial act of submission to the Republican power structure
as gated by the Web of Trust. Over time, the bar for demonstrations of submission made by absentees that should have known better... I can only see it rising.
Hence the screw turns clarification on the strategy last night diana_coman: might
as well towards-purposing all along; that's not at all what "republic of men, not laws" means to me.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: If mike_c doesn't get paid it sends the signal that TMSR doesn't ever deal, following this external relations is difficult because of the "What the hell can a lord do for me" objection. If mike_c gets paid, TMSR matters, WoT matters, and voice has value
as can be demonstrated through the outcome of the case... but the precedent is not sufficiently restrictive so
as to prevent future tightening, refusals, etc.
diana_coman: anyway, I admit by now I'm quite curious
as to what the others in L1 have to say.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: If someone comes on a day after mike_c is paid out by MPEx, I can't imagine this hypothetical next person would receive any offer for voice nearly
as cheap
as 30 BTC.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: looking at it from the other side, do you mean to say that if someone comes tomorrow willing to pay 30 btc to have some issue heard in the forum (on which they also stand to possibly get more than the 30 btc
as the most favourable result) then it follows that they submitted to tmsr?
diana_coman: BingoBoingo:
as things stand, he is at any rate after getting the coin to use outside tmsr; because can't yet "find time" or whatever; sure, some price to pay for getting it out, that much his actions acknowledge + some appreciation for asciilifeform's work, certainly.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-17 05:00:55 mp_en_viaje: i get we're basically getting scammed by the duplicitous nature of the lazy, and will be, forever. cuz that's how the world goes, that's how laziness survives
as a survival mechanism in the first place. but i'd much rather we understand each other on the topic, than it just proceed on my authority and then whatever, ten years later it'll be "mp just shouldn't have paid all these asshats" or who the fuck knows what
BingoBoingo: Maybe you don't want to call it submission, but it is an acknowledgement of the Republic
as Sovereign.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Right.
As asciilifeform is still politically alligned with the Republic, I find the proposal agreeable in creating a second opportunity to demonstrate continuing submission.
diana_coman:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-19#1955792 - how do you reason to get to the conclusion that the qntra contribution is cheaper alternative? The way I see it, the choice clearly spells that mike_c considers the 30 btc
as the cheaper option compared to putting in the effort& time on qntra for the interval you requested.
BingoBoingo: In the general case I see a -1 or -2 negrating
as a sort of "caution", but I find it hard to read a -10
as anything other than the recipient being marked
as future salt-pork that happens to maybe be on the hoof at the time of rating.
mp_en_viaje: goes quite well after a lazy breakfast consisting of a sampler of halva we bought in this little shop in the edirne bazaar (which is pretty fucking cool btw), assorted dried fruits, ayran, tahin, chestnuts an' whatnot. i'm very roundly sated and just
as thoroughly satisfied.
mp_en_viaje: now, admitting you're good at what you do
as only god himself can ever be, here are your outcomes : if you go for girls that would make great sluts, and you make them great sluts, what if they ask "ok, so ?" when you're done ? ie, they ARE great sluts now, where they'd have been just wasted potential before, but they... do not see it ? they don't perceive anything relevant has changed at all ?
mp_en_viaje: this is how people have heirs, "you'll get a good son just
as soon
as she's popped all the kids she had in her and no sooner."
BingoBoingo: Lol, Kristina's the VP
as of last week. Kinda wondering when Argentina will threaten invasion here.
mp_en_viaje: they both do this
as it is, but it's "not relevant" because "bigger themes". except those "bigger themes" are 100% driven by historical accident and naught else entirely at all whatsoever.
mp_en_viaje: so this'll double
as a "republic's dc inventory & census, 2019" ?
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: It's grinding, have not yet found half of 500 without turning towards the US. Will end up posting disk destruction pics tomorrow
as 2 WoT'd folks viewed. 500 DC's I applied to blogging may not happen without applying to ones inside the zone.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: Tonight was the "fin de año" gathering at the Cowork, just the same
as when I arrived 12-7-2017. Crowd noticably smaller this year.
mp_en_viaje: they worship, i whorship, just
as long
as it's not the workshop who the he'lls to worry sheep.
mp_en_viaje: i wonder if anyone in istanbul's having
as much fun
as me post morning calls to prayer.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-18 19:04:35 jfw:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-14#1955376 - to make my reasons for inclusion by reference rather than importing trees explicit, even if bad: on my own I was certainly in no position to pay the maintenance debts of all those projects, so I wanted some separation between my own work and them.
As I see it now, the trouble is this doesn't actually solve anything if you still have to use
trinque: airgap protects the coin so long
as nothing interesting ever happens
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-18 18:50:33 jfw: trinque: one approach is if money flows and wants patching support, to sell subscriptions covering some defined set of things. Do such clients exist? I don't know but seems like these tend to be large corps already in submission to USG and can just
as well buy RedHat
jfw: Come to think of it, this stricter usage is compatible with what I'd read about what start-ups are, so not sure why I defaulted to the broader/confused notion for "involved with start-ups in any capacity", perhaps because lots call themselves things
as you say.
ossabot: Logged on 2018-01-28 00:58:37 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other chicks can code moments, "I earned my degree and license in cosmetology and had a horrible career
as a hair dresser that I ended in 2015 due to social anxiety. I still love hair theory, and I even really enjoy working on people with whom I share a close relationship, but now I'm in pursuit of a new path."
mp_en_viaje: they also serve
as "hr lukewarmers", keeping fucktoys / assorted "talent" from starvation / routed and readily accessible.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-17 20:04:01 lobbes:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-17#1955551 << I keep coming back to this point. The meaning of any rating is something that each individual must weigh for themselves, isn't it? Could there be a 'blanket' upfront decision
as such? (Very possible I'm just not picking up the nuance, however)
mp_en_viaje: there's at the very least some basis for this, such
as a "is user entirely harmless or potentially harmful". user eminently harmful on pizarro, couldn't afford luxury to ignore negrates for instance.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-14 14:28:53 trinque: I skipped it in cuntoo
as well, for equally bad reasons.
jfw:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-14#1955376 - to make my reasons for inclusion by reference rather than importing trees explicit, even if bad: on my own I was certainly in no position to pay the maintenance debts of all those projects, so I wanted some separation between my own work and them.
As I see it now, the trouble is this doesn't actually solve anything if you still have to use
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-17 17:06:35 diana_coman:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-17#1955541 - I have to admit that I rather considered this sort of situations to be more a matter between the people directly involved and
as such it didn't seem to me that there was a need for some sort of upfront decision.
jfw: trinque: one approach is if money flows and wants patching support, to sell subscriptions covering some defined set of things. Do such clients exist? I don't know but seems like these tend to be large corps already in submission to USG and can just
as well buy RedHat
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-17 17:06:35 diana_coman:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-17#1955541 - I have to admit that I rather considered this sort of situations to be more a matter between the people directly involved and
as such it didn't seem to me that there was a need for some sort of upfront decision.
lobbes:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-17#1955551 << I keep coming back to this point. The meaning of any rating is something that each individual must weigh for themselves, isn't it? Could there be a 'blanket' upfront decision
as such? (Very possible I'm just not picking up the nuance, however)
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-17 05:00:55 mp_en_viaje: i get we're basically getting scammed by the duplicitous nature of the lazy, and will be, forever. cuz that's how the world goes, that's how laziness survives
as a survival mechanism in the first place. but i'd much rather we understand each other on the topic, than it just proceed on my authority and then whatever, ten years later it'll be "mp just shouldn't have paid all these asshats" or who the fuck knows what
BingoBoingo: I don't even see loss of citizenship and therefore rights
as an extreme meaning of a negrating, especially at -10. That's more of a -1, -2
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: In mike_c's case, I am very confident I can make the case that gets his coin back. The argument is grounded in Republican doctrine
as I understand it, proceeds from cause, does not import Pantsuitisms, and is incredibly removed from the late ROTA's derpitude.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-17 05:00:17 mp_en_viaje: however i'm also getting prety sick of all this self-uppity cuntery whereby douche "gets upset" at mpex/republic/the world.
as if there even CAN BE such a thing
as "upset at the totality of existence".
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: I can see at least from one angle how&why you'd structure the proposal precisely
as you did; at any rate though, it's your proposal and your consideration of the issue so if the exact reasoning behind it is to be explained, it will be explained by you, surely.
BingoBoingo: diana_coman: Ah, I thought maybe you were taking the infuriating nature of the things encountered during the research
as informative of the price/shape of my proposal.
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell mike_c Since the discussion appears ready
to happen sooner rather than later I give you the option of sending 35BTC to 15eVXAW7k8uKc5moDFUSc9Y3jmHFAenNXo
as a retainer.
As it is 2019 I'll assume 35 BTC arriving at the address is yours and not someone else's misfire.
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell mike_c I am willing to argue your case. Without your providing more details the cost structure is
as follows: 35 BTC up front, 10 BTC to be refunded if my argument on your behalf loses. The best way for you to start negotiating this price downward is starting a conversation about the case in #agriculturalsupremacy
mp_en_viaje: an' i shall gladly read the positions of everyone
as published in the meanwhile.
mp_en_viaje: i get we're basically getting scammed by the duplicitous nature of the lazy, and will be, forever. cuz that's how the world goes, that's how laziness survives
as a survival mechanism in the first place. but i'd much rather we understand each other on the topic, than it just proceed on my authority and then whatever, ten years later it'll be "mp just shouldn't have paid all these asshats" or who the fuck knows what (priorly seen) nonsense.
ossabot: Logged on 2018-06-27 12:30:52 mircea_popescu:
as far
as anyone knows, usg is still churning the same bitcoin dust it got by clicking on faucets back in 2012. first it "sold it" via the usms scam, now it "captured" it and so following.
mp_en_viaje: years later, when it turns out
they really weren't,
as it happens ALL THE FUCKING TIME, with ornery regularity... then it's suddenly weasel time. we were good friends all along, right ? he just took a nap while we carried, what's the problem.
mp_en_viaje: however i'm also getting prety sick of all this self-uppity cuntery whereby douche "gets upset" at mpex/republic/the world.
as if there even CAN BE such a thing
as "upset at the totality of existence".
mp_en_viaje: mike_c yeah,
as it happens i can tell you what got "gummed up" : you got
negrated meanwhile. what, this escaped your notice ?
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-15 17:44:10 mp_en_viaje: pretty fucking lulzy. the only ~actual~ measure that could conceivably work, ie the olde "we select the top 100 hottest athenian maidens every year and send them over
as tribute" not yet occuring to them, huh.
mike_c:
As an ex-shareholder, I was not surprised but still impressed at the orderly liquidation.
mp_en_viaje: pretty fucking lulzy. the only ~actual~ measure that could conceivably work, ie the olde "we select the top 100 hottest athenian maidens every year and send them over
as tribute" not yet occuring to them, huh.
mp_en_viaje: the same sort of naivity permeates throughout, "oh, the dollar will crash". doesn't enter his mind to wonder "against what". it's been sorta-kinda crashing against the euro, i guess, but i mean look at the fucking euro. the whole fucking concept of the dubaloo is that "it hasn't what to crash against" ; and everyone's complicit -- the chinese sure
as fuck don't want it crashing against themselves, for instance. the republic's pretty much t
mp_en_viaje: most beings an engineer produce useful things only
as an unintentional / coincidental byproduct of an internal cycle of self-assuaging that's broadly unrelated to anything else.
mp_en_viaje: makes about
as much sense
as axe head / handle separation
diana_coman: the usual "we're innovating aka corrupting because reasons",
as far
as I see it, yes.
diana_coman: I don't really have anything to offer
as a counterargument to that.
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-12-14 diana_coman: jfw: I went through your keksum proggy and it's been quite a pleasure really; a few nitpicks on top of
those: 1. why default/fallthrough on "bad option" instead of the more useful help option? 2. you have nicely \t everywhere except in usage_err in main.c where it's \s 3. just out of curiosity re
mp_en_viaje:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-12-14#1955358 << i don't think they've been thinking about it before in these terms ; but yes solvable. what's more : not only solvable, but beneficially solvable. it's one thing when cleaning up the place is approachable ; it's another thing when cleaning up the place not only is approachable, but actually approaching it necessarily provides an answer to why your scissors kept disappearing.
as th
trinque: my lately talking only of money isn't greed, so much
as trying to humble myself into hustling for that dirty dollar^Wbuttcorn instead of ^
trinque: I skipped it in cuntoo
as well, for equally bad reasons.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-12-14 14:00:22 trinque: dorion_road: btw, your gales has the same problem mp_en_viaje pointed out about my cuntoo. it doesn't actually have the sources of the dependencies. one provides those
as tarballs.