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mircea_popescu: phf i don't think polysemy is actually desirable in this context. edge should really mean one thing reliably. ☟︎
phf: i need to just write this stuff up, but at this point i'm leaning towards the idea that you can't really make a better graph than "shares a hash", and all that communicates is that "this guy uses content from this other guy"
phf: v's graph says "these two patches share a common hash", but that doesn't mean that one can be pressed on top of another in isolation
asciilifeform: if it isn't, then it isn't complete.
phf: asciilifeform: no conflict doesn't have much to do with gnudiff. "conflict" in this case means that the patches contain at least TWO files one has shared hash, and the other one hash different hashes
phf: and that's where my thinking gets fuzzy, because i didn't really finish this whole exercise
phf: but you can't actually press from X->Z, even though they are "antecedents", because Z requires Y to be pressed first
phf: but that doesn't guarantee a clean press as a graph transition. it only guarantees clean press when you topo sort the graph
shinohai: At least it didn't destroy my whole wallet like last time I used pybitcointools
phf: there were suggestion "just do X" and i would try them and discover that they wouldn't actually solve the problem
shinohai: I haven't got to test send/receive yet ... still no place to buy coins for cash in this godforsaken country.
mircea_popescu: phf shouldn't they not actually link then ?
phf: mod6: yeah, my antecedent's list is actually cut down, but i can't recall by what metric :o
phf: experimental doesn't press cleanly half the time, because of rebasing issue. for example it has polarbeard's patches that link into graph, but are all over the place with their press dependency
a111: Logged on 2016-05-07 18:46 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wtf is supposed to be at http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/download/866C9165DAE2CF77D0164159E7818E466728400769222BB68D5C470317519EBB ? as in http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiazvypz8jMAhVGcRQKHS2hCwsQFggwMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fphuctor.nosuchlabs.com%2Fdownload%2F866C9165DAE2CF77D0164159E7818E466728400769222BB68D5C470317519EBB%3F&usg=AFQjCNF8VUOKSyn75OI5ncATuiod
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wtf is supposed to be at http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/download/866C9165DAE2CF77D0164159E7818E466728400769222BB68D5C470317519EBB ? as in http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiazvypz8jMAhVGcRQKHS2hCwsQFggwMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fphuctor.nosuchlabs.com%2Fdownload%2F866C9165DAE2CF77D0164159E7818E466728400769222BB68D5C470317519EBB%3F&usg=AFQjCNF8VUOKSyn75OI5ncATuiod ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <mod6> haha, i wish i had some people around here who wanted to do that kinda labor forme. << You don't want to pay my "pout of service area" fee for visiting the tundra.
mircea_popescu: same reason you don't just go into aula magna at your local uni and start pouring words.
mircea_popescu: because we don't generally wish to hear what $rando has to say.
mod6: my bad, saw you joined, didn't see that you didn't get voiced.
mod6: don't hesitate to drop me a line if you find something thatneeds an update.
mod6: so might hvae a new version of `t' for ya to look at sometime this weekend. i've been cleaning up the graph. trying to get the sagas colorized (which is complete), but I wanna get all the disconnected graphs printing in a certain wa.
shinohai: Yeah I saw somewhere in the logs where you said t was almost ready for ml posting
mod6: I've been working on `t' cleanup this week. 'tis going alright.
BingoBoingo: I don't call ;;ticker --market all because I'm interested in what it reports at that moment in that moment. Mostly do it in case if that moment/day becomes interesting in the months that come.
BingoBoingo: I'll pm it for the time being. If we don't replace stats and ticker though it will be a pain not being able to link them in the logs from qntra when a story calls for it.
mod6: "i deleted my gpg key" wth, this isn't super mario bros, bro.
mod6: well, havnen't we all.
danielpbarron: later tell worked for me a coupla hours ago ; turns out nubbins` intends to return my t-shirt payment
asciilifeform: don't host it on the missile control box.
asciilifeform: iirc it can't shell but can infinite loop.
trinque: I didn't see that the thing can shell out
alikim: that card doesn't say much
mircea_popescu: not particularly cultivated, i don't think, looks sort-of alcatel / self-trained level, but that's not really relevant.
mircea_popescu: weren't you all about teh money ? \
mircea_popescu: there's absolutely no reason eulora can't have roguelike interface.
mircea_popescu: alikim> ideal client would be a console app, it doesn't need 3d engine or visuals << word. jurov was sort-of working on this, actually.
danielpbarron: although that won't always be true, but certainly for the time being all that's needed is a console
alikim: ideal client would be a console app, it doesn't need 3d engine or visuals
alikim: I don't like it, it's necessity
trinque: I don't particularly mind the fact that, having covered the whole habitable earth, we killed off most of the species that used to eat us.
asciilifeform: i obviously can't speak for mircea_popescu , but personally even cunt is not a get-out-of-biodiesel-free card as far as i'm concerned.
asciilifeform: and aren't any kind of good company.
asciilifeform: and i don't see the stupid being more likely to conform to fact than anyone else
mircea_popescu: and this is exactly how it goes with "we just want to ask you a few questions", which is why you don't talk to the police, and everything else.
asciilifeform: likewise a large fraction of samples on vt don't even ~run there~
mircea_popescu: that they don't fucking detect it
asciilifeform: i can't simply shit forth gold.
mircea_popescu: cuz this "i want FOR X to Y" ain't a want, it's a voodoo.
mircea_popescu: lol. "the sewage goes into this pond i live in" "you need to live in a better pond" "didn't we discuss the whole i'm not walking on land again thing???"
asciilifeform: didn't we discuss the whole 'i am not voluntarily being 19 with none-of-the-upsides again' thing ?
mircea_popescu: i don't currently see much value in someone bringing old unknown key rather than freshly made.
mircea_popescu: it shouldn't be dark info.
mircea_popescu: "we will have all keys prior to T, and add new ones on the basis of X spamtrap only"
punkman: you don't have to import it into gpg
mircea_popescu: on some level it seems one shouldn't be precluded in rating a key merely because the owner of that key failed to register it with teh republic.
felipelalli: but they don't understand money is better if older.
mircea_popescu: anyway. i don't think anyone actulaly understands what they're doing or knows why.
mircea_popescu: fuckall, i'd much prefer living in a city among civilised folk. but this isn't on offer.
felipelalli: at least they didn't come to Brazil yet! maybe because we're very bad too. everything is collapsing, as in the book Atlas Shrugged
felipelalli: I don't understand how they can survive with that hyperinflation
felipelalli: Hi mircea_popescu ! yes, you are right!! ahahh. It's incredible that she doesn't renounce. That kind of people is always a dog with a bone.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, seems you were right, keybase moduli aren't particularly rotten
mod6: Shouldn't be tooo much longer. Salud!
mod6: General update: for the last 4 days or so, have been just working out some of the kinks in `t', getting it ready to send to the list.
mircea_popescu: omaigerd you can't imagine how butthurt argentina press is over trump winning
asciilifeform: believe or not - they aren't here !
shinohai: Lulzy but I don't have anymore Qntra in me: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-36210680
BingoBoingo doesn't remember if called an idiot or not during early ventures to future Republic's forums
trinque: (didn't do shit)
mircea_popescu: i don't expect it to. told him he's an idiot, which is probably all the more unacceptable as it's factual.
danielpbarron: my brother works for a place that makes such standards; from what he described, the stuff doesn't sound like's it's even recreationally usable
asciilifeform: hitler, apparently, didn't get what he wanted out of the corpse
mircea_popescu: was a heartthrob for a month or so there, because it wasn't all too clear how bitbet will unwind. but in the end bettors were paid 100%
hanbot: rip mpif! was a pleasure, even though pc4 didn't turn out so well.
mircea_popescu: hey, obamatax wasn't a care, right ?
shinohai: I submitted a gofundme to get a designated shitting street named after him in India, but twasn't approved.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: didn't pedo brock actually star in one of these filmz ?
mircea_popescu: he didn't HAVE TO.
asciilifeform: if 'he's a meanie and couldn't possibly prevail' (tm)
mircea_popescu: they can't do anything ; nor can they learn from their mistakes. this is the price pretending exacts of one.
mircea_popescu: the whole of their strategy consists of a) these people couldn't possibly prevail, for they're "mean" [synonyms go here] ; b) these people couldn't possibly have prevailed, because a, so it never happened ; c) go back to a.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> why couldn't hitler have picked a plausible shitoshi ? << was just discussing this with the gurlz. you gotta appreciate hitler is not a person ; hitler is the fucking google ai, practically.
asciilifeform: why couldn't hitler have picked a plausible shitoshi ?
asciilifeform: i can't fucking resist
phf: yeah, i won't reupload
phf: asciilifeform: heads up, archive contains a bunch of users without keys, where the foo.asc files content is "SELF-SIGNED PUBLIC KEY NOT FOUND", presumably that's the ones that didn't upload (you'd think they would 404 instead)
a111: Logged on 2016-05-02 11:10 mircea_popescu: anyway. domain reg'd feb 16th, first post april 26th. teh boyz poured their sweat blood an' tears as the expression goes. too bad it won't work.
phf: i'll do a second crawl, with a slightly cleaned up script, i might've lost a handful at the beginning because of some bugs. it's possible that there's some subpockets i didn't discover.
mircea_popescu: "we weren't affraid enough yet"
asciilifeform: but I don't remember exactly. I created broken test keys, but I don't
mircea_popescu: but sure, watching the derp implode is decent comedy. "oh lines match" "well you have 273 lines here and 259 lines there" "oh this is the list" "except here's 11 you don't have". etc etc.
asciilifeform: well no, it wasn't straight from dev/random
danielpbarron: we don't "signed-rate" eachother either..
mircea_popescu: some [more] hard data to go with all the rest of the hard data making fools of them can't hurt.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-05 13:13 mircea_popescu: how do you know the moon isn't actually made of petrified ejaculate ?
mircea_popescu: how do you know the moon isn't actually made of petrified ejaculate ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: because it isn't as if i have hitler's actual skull on my desk, as stalin did
asciilifeform: the thermodynamic 'taboo against the coincidence' is described in, oddly enough, winnie pooh! '"Well," said Pooh, "what I like best," and then he had to stop and think. Because although Eating Honey was a very good thing to do, there was a moment just before you began to eat it which was better than when you were, but he didn't know what it was called.' ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: the 419 scam is a particular arbitrage of the knowledge problem. the way it works is that money in modern society consists of a substance and a form. its substance is hinted at by the "aml/kyc" bs, which is a whole other pile of lulz we won't be getting into here. you prefer to refer to it as "X couldn't own rembrandts" internally.