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mircea_popescu: alikim good for you eh!
alikim: which part?
mircea_popescu: the recouping your key.
mircea_popescu: alikim> ideal client would be a console app, it doesn't need 3d engine or visuals << word. jurov was sort-of working on this, actually.
mircea_popescu: but yes, i support the notion.
mircea_popescu: there's absolutely no reason eulora can't have roguelike interface.
alikim: I have 4 computers and a life and I live with normal people, if you go on them like "I lost my pgp key, I lost my life" they suggest you visit a doctor.. or get laid and drunk in any order
mircea_popescu: alikim i have a life and 5 live-in slavegirls. lost track of how many actual computers, but prolly close to a megawatt any given day. yet if i said "o btw i lost my key" i think everyone'd just stop breathing.
alikim: different environment
mircea_popescu: apparently.
alikim: and priorities
mircea_popescu: possibly.
mircea_popescu: weren't you all about teh money ? \
alikim: I am, why?
mircea_popescu: not that different.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/if-youre-one-of-the-numerous-buenos-aires-printing-shops-ill-be-harassing-over-the-day/ << scroll down for my business card pic :D
alikim: I believe all my programming endevours will pay off
alikim: money-wise
mircea_popescu: likely.
mircea_popescu: programming has for a long time been talent starved ; likely to continue indefinitely ; and you're certainly talented.
alikim: besides I'm curious so yeah sotimes I do something extra
mircea_popescu: not particularly cultivated, i don't think, looks sort-of alcatel / self-trained level, but that's not really relevant.
alikim: that card doesn't say much
mircea_popescu: name and key. all it needs to say!
alikim: You have younger hands that I'd expect
mircea_popescu: o.O
mircea_popescu: i'm not THAT old.
alikim: I thought it's gonna be hairy sousage like fingers with heavy golden ring
mircea_popescu: aww!
alikim: hm... correcting mental image...
asciilifeform: i bet alikim picture mircea_popescu on a 'harley' even.
asciilifeform: just picture, sausage finger, german helmet, on his 'hog' !
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu 17126/38479; 1272349/1298527
asciilifeform: uh
asciilifeform: no moar gribble ??
trinque: dunno what's going on with it, but I plan on deedbot eating its useful methods
trinque: got the $google one in there today, will do others during next week
asciilifeform: trinque: neato
trinque: asciilifeform: can you think of a reason why passing $calc back to bc would be dangerous?
trinque: I didn't see that the thing can shell out
trinque: but plan on looking at it moar
asciilifeform: iirc it can't shell but can infinite loop.
asciilifeform: don't host it on the missile control box.
trinque: yep, gonna stand up a disposable box for this kind of thing
trinque: can probably wrap the call to bc in some shell script that kills it after x seconds
danielpbarron: later tell worked for me a coupla hours ago ; turns out nubbins` intends to return my t-shirt payment
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: i forget, did you ever give me a place to send shirts to
asciilifeform: quite possibly you did and it got lost
danielpbarron: ya, you were gonna get me a quote on shipping cost
asciilifeform: resend plox
danielpbarron: http://danielpbarron.com/ascii-shirts.asc.txt
asciilifeform: ty
asciilifeform: got it.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: message did not say how many you need
danielpbarron: a dozen or whatever fits in a reasonable box
asciilifeform: worx
asciilifeform: unrelated lulz,
asciilifeform: http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/busybox/2010-December/074114.html
asciilifeform: (via kako)
asciilifeform: 'The /bin vs /usr/bin split (and all the others) is an artifact of this, a 1970's implementation detail that got carried forward for decades by bureaucrats who never question _why_ they're doing things. It stopped making any sense before Linux was ever invented, for multiple reasons...'
asciilifeform: 'Standards bureaucracies like the Linux Foundation (which consumed the Free Standards Group in its' ever-growing accretion disk years ago) happily document and add to this sort of complexity without ever trying to understand why it was there in the first place. 'Ken and Dennis leaked their OS into the equivalent of home because an RK05 disk pack on the PDP-11 was too small" goes whoosh over their heads.'
mod6: :]
mod6: had a good laugh about all of this craig stuff lately.
mod6: well, havnen't we all.
mod6: anyway, what else is up?
mod6: "i deleted my gpg key" wth, this isn't super mario bros, bro.
mod6 crosses eyes
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i silenced it ; getting upgraded.
mircea_popescu: Known Moduli: 2073847
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-06#1463812 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-06 02:55 a111: Logged on 2016-05-06 02:06 mircea_popescu: ah, no Known Moduli: 2018943. vs 2mn earlier today... so it ~is~ actually doing more like 20-30k/24 hrs ?
mircea_popescu recalls the good auld days of http://btcbase.org/log/2015-04-29#1116245 :D ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2015-04-29 18:59 mircea_popescu: Submissions: 3930 Known Moduli: 6642
mircea_popescu: so about 55k done in 25 hours.
BingoBoingo: $bc,stats
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you can pm it.
mircea_popescu: alternatively i could revoice it. do you actually miss it ?
BingoBoingo: I'll pm it for the time being. If we don't replace stats and ticker though it will be a pain not being able to link them in the logs from qntra when a story calls for it.
BingoBoingo: I don't call ;;ticker --market all because I'm interested in what it reports at that moment in that moment. Mostly do it in case if that moment/day becomes interesting in the months that come.
BingoBoingo: But for the bc,stats pming that is fine
mircea_popescu: alrighty, what.
mircea_popescu: ;;google buttseks
gribble: Error: We broke The Google!
mircea_popescu: there.
BingoBoingo: ty
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all --currency rmb
gribble: BTCChina BTCRMB last: 2959.64, vol: 29315.59660000 | Volume-weighted last average: 2959.64
BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 458.58, vol: 5192.97314437 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 452.5, vol: 6497.89365 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 460.01, vol: 26904.66921442 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 457.3, vol: 1.86 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 455.537844, vol: 29318.48630000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 459.05, vol: 1844.78973063 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 458.481, vol: 13.46272529 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)
BingoBoingo: ;;more
gribble: 457.299273436
BingoBoingo: ^ see up after boatoshi sank, may be intersting detail come july
mircea_popescu: eh.
BingoBoingo: Apparently a DHS officer broke today, writing up the story
deedbot: [Qntra] DHS Officer Breaks, Performs Allegedly Unsanctioned Killings - http://qntra.net/2016/05/dhs-officer-breaks-performs-allegedly-unsanctioned-killings/ ☟︎
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo nice :D
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform on the other hand the braindamage list padded considerably. closing in on 3k by now
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i lold
shinohai: ;;later tell BingoBoingo http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-07#1464299 <<< sed -i 's/being/bring/g' ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-07 05:12 deedbot: [Qntra] DHS Officer Breaks, Performs Allegedly Unsanctioned Killings - http://qntra.net/2016/05/dhs-officer-breaks-performs-allegedly-unsanctioned-killings/
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: 23561/38479; 1281531/1298527
mod6: Ah, very cool, just noticed the /topic.
mod6: $up rain1
deedbot: rain1 voiced for 30 minutes.
mod6: hi, how goes it? are you in the wot yet? might be a good place to start.
rain1: 30 mins lol
rain1: this is insane ☟︎
mod6: heh, 1800 seconds to get it right
rain1: thanks mod6
mod6: no prob.
shinohai: o/ mod6
mod6: o7 shinohai
mod6: how goes it?
shinohai: Not bad, sitting outside with lappy, gorgeous day here. U?
mod6: Yeah, it's real nice here too. I've actually gotta do a bit of yard work here in just a few mins.
mod6: Thought I'd stop in here first tho.
mod6: I've been working on `t' cleanup this week. 'tis going alright.
shinohai: I'm lazy and pay MExicans to do mine. >.<
mod6: haha, i wish i had some people around here who wanted to do that kinda labor forme.
shinohai: Yeah I saw somewhere in the logs where you said t was almost ready for ml posting
shinohai: And I've been using same guy for 3 years now, the price is just right and saves me the hassle.
mod6: so might hvae a new version of `t' for ya to look at sometime this weekend. i've been cleaning up the graph. trying to get the sagas colorized (which is complete), but I wanna get all the disconnected graphs printing in a certain wa.
mod6: *way
shinohai: sweet! :D
mod6: <+shinohai> And I've been using same guy for 3 years now, the price is just right and saves me the hassle. << this is what i need. i like to do the gardening but the stuff like mowing raking etc, i hardly can make time for.
mod6: we need to add more tickets to the list too if we can round out some of that stuff.
mod6: tsp reminded me that we need to add one for rawtxs
shinohai: I'm the same, I love taking care of my flowers and veggies but mowing, etc is not my forte.
shinohai: Funny, I was looking at raw tx code the other day, since the key code has worked so well.
mod6: last year i had 22 tomato plants. this year im rotating the spot and probably will only do 10. but im gonna do a ton of cucumbers.
mod6: and im having this lady show me how to jar/can them.
mod6: <+shinohai> Funny, I was looking at raw tx code the other day, since the key code has worked so well.<< ya!
mod6: that'sactually something I'd like to do today if I can get the time: drop in that code into my test environment.
shinohai: Would be nice to be able to broadcast own tx's
mod6: then rebase everything if i need, which it probably will
mod6: ;;halfreward
gribble: Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Mon Jul 11 09:45:11 2016 UTC | Time remaining: 9 weeks, 1 day, 18 hours, 20 minutes, and 0 seconds.
mod6: holy smokes
mod6: was just looking for non b-a steps for rain to follow to get reg'd in deedbot
mod6: ran across this page looks like it needs at least a name change for #trilema: http://deedbot.org/faq.html ☟︎
mod6: is there some deedbot.org steps that rain1 can follow to get reg'd?
shinohai: Some of the foundation pages need tweaking too, I think I noticed old #b-a refs in them
mod6: oh good, thanks for reviewing those. there's a bunch of work in there we really need.
mod6: don't hesitate to drop me a line if you find something thatneeds an update.
mod6: $up mircea_popescu
deedbot: mircea_popescu voiced for 30 minutes.
mircea_popescu: ty
shinohai: I can put list of trusted nodes, etc on my site if we need them. Not sure who said they were going to make a new wiki page. :/
mircea_popescu: why the fuck does deedbot not answer in pm tho
mircea_popescu: $up
mod6: my bad, saw you joined, didn't see that you didn't get voiced.
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/b6b937a0-180c-4450-b97e-62ebe4abf99b/
mircea_popescu: this is fucking weird shit.
mircea_popescu: $v 5377F1A5DF1C57528DC101794400A2022593B5AA7C775789B94D2A6EF3307BBA
deedbot: You are now voiced in #trilema
mod6: pm worked for me yesterday when i got booted from 'sandstorm' or whatever. i have noticed from time to time though, it just takes a bit to respond.
mircea_popescu: ftr : **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 7 10:43:32 2016 May 07 10:43:33 <mircea_popescu> $up May 07 10:52:49 <mircea_popescu> $up May 07 11:38:57 <mircea_popescu> $up **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat May 7 12:26:05 2016
mod6: oh wow.
mod6: > a bit
mircea_popescu: ikr.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-07#1464312 << what's so insane about it ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-07 15:19 rain1: this is insane
rain1: why all this trouble just to speak
mircea_popescu: because we don't generally wish to hear what $rando has to say.
rain1: cool
mircea_popescu: same reason you don't just go into aula magna at your local uni and start pouring words.
shinohai: kek
mircea_popescu: check out the outsized ego on this one. fucker thought he was like important or some shit ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-07#1464345 << word. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-07 15:27 mod6: ran across this page looks like it needs at least a name change for #trilema: http://deedbot.org/faq.html
mod6: shinohai: how'd you like to be integral into helping us round out the newly built deedbot wiki?
mod6: (are you still looking for tmsr~ side project?)
shinohai: Sounds good to me.
mod6: my goal is to move the good things off of the ba wiki and start getting our own setup.
mircea_popescu: nice.
mod6: it's still in the ground breaking phase, with the wiki, but there's async work that could be done from time to time when you have it.
mircea_popescu: ah darn, it was my bad setup filtering out the wrong pms. sorry trinque false alamr, deedbot is fine indeed.
mod6: ah
shinohai: Just takes time to put together
mod6: yeah. maybe if we run into trinque this weekend we can all discuss what some next things are there.
mod6: heck, i'll even make tickets for it if we need to.
mod6: nothing that has to get all accomplished today, or next week. but it'd be great to have something workable there by say. 9 weeks from now.
mod6: then we can continue to round out that stuff as we go on.
shinohai: I need to make a damned coinbr account this weekend too if I'm gonna continue my Qntra experiment.
mod6: im sure j-dawg can get you setup
mod6 laughs
shinohai: Not hard to setup, I just need a btc addy I can use for signing only. I tend not to reuse addys and misplace them >.<
jurov: shinohai, just fill this simple 5-page form, get an affidavits from doctor and IRS and we're done
jurov: easy peasy
mod6: hahaha
shinohai: No pic of sharpie-in-pooper required?
trinque: mircea_popescu: ah cool
mod6: alright Gentlemen, i gotta run to do this yard trimmings here for a bit.
mod6: i'll be back in a bit
mod6: shinohai: ha, that guy made a mint for that.
trinque: yep I'm out too, gonna gorge on crawfish in the sun
mircea_popescu: aaand eulora just got its first "we are the people" revolutionary movement.
mircea_popescu: it got trampled underfoot the same day.
mircea_popescu: god i love my top hat.
mod6: trinque: have fun. let's try to regroup later :]
mod6 looks
mod6: ok :]
mod6: have fun, bbl.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-05-07.log.html#t08:27:11 << tools ARE the basic game mechanic.
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "boosters". if there were, people'd just buy the booster and then that would become the basic game mechanic.
mircea_popescu: economy is economy is economy.
mircea_popescu: o motherfucker. sorry bout that.
mircea_popescu: ever since mod6 's been talking in #eulora i've been mischanning like crazy lol.
asciilifeform: bbet moved?!
BingoBoingo: shinohai: fxd
mircea_popescu: lol
BingoBoingo: <mod6> haha, i wish i had some people around here who wanted to do that kinda labor forme. << You don't want to pay my "pout of service area" fee for visiting the tundra.
mircea_popescu: when's your next ablum out mr j-dawg ?
j-dawg: yo
mircea_popescu: is it true you had 23 pounds of panties thrown at you by rabid fans at last concert ?
j-dawg: yo dawg weighed them? dere fo' smellin' yo!
mircea_popescu: word
BingoBoingo: $b 5
BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=4357
deedbot: [Qntra] Abducted Liberty Reserve Founder Sentenced To 20 Years In Prison - http://qntra.net/2016/05/abducted-liberty-reserve-founder-sentenced-to-20-years-in-prison/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wtf is supposed to be at http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/download/866C9165DAE2CF77D0164159E7818E466728400769222BB68D5C470317519EBB ? as in http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiazvypz8jMAhVGcRQKHS2hCwsQFggwMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fphuctor.nosuchlabs.com%2Fdownload%2F866C9165DAE2CF77D0164159E7818E466728400769222BB68D5C470317519EBB%3F&usg=AFQjCNF8VUOKSyn75OI5ncATuiod ☟︎
mircea_popescu: YuuYDg&bvm=bv.121421273,d.d24
mircea_popescu: ;;google astra linux
gribble: Error: We broke The Google!
mircea_popescu: $google astra linux
mircea_popescu: somewhat lulzy.
deedbot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astra_Linux << Astra Linux - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astra_Linux << Astra Linux — Википедия | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QE6cvtuB-_g << Astra Linux Review - Russian Government/Military Debian-based ...
mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://67.media.tumblr.com/d066f34f267aa3944b8140744911f57e/tumblr_naycwfnV9K1tky0qbo1_1280.jpg
BingoBoingo: Is that Sasha and Maliah Bahamas?
mircea_popescu: no idea
BingoBoingo: https://i.sli.mg/HYM9HO.png
mircea_popescu: to click... or not to click. this is the BingoBoingolema. whether tis safer in silence to suffer the links and twinkles of outrageous rotundity, or to take a stand against a sea of blubber and, by refusing to click, forever disown them.
danielpbarron: this one is all text
mircea_popescu: motherfucker. what's with all this "blanking of names" bullshit. that's not how you do it. tits pic and home address.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the civilised world, http://67.media.tumblr.com/9bd717569e80b50670e9ffbe1c0b7aad/tumblr_npicjfVqBy1rmrwgqo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-07#1464426 << somebody's key? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-07 18:46 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wtf is supposed to be at http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/download/866C9165DAE2CF77D0164159E7818E466728400769222BB68D5C470317519EBB ? as in http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiazvypz8jMAhVGcRQKHS2hCwsQFggwMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fphuctor.nosuchlabs.com%2Fdownload%2F866C9165DAE2CF77D0164159E7818E466728400769222BB68D5C470317519EBB%3F&usg=AFQjCNF8VUOKSyn75OI5ncATuiod
mircea_popescu: i thought those were /gpgfp/ and /gpgkey/
mircea_popescu: apparently there's a /download/ too but not linked from anywhere. ☟︎
deedbot: [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] The full in-house orchestra. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/05/07/the-full-in-house-orchestra/
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-07#1464444 << button on every key page!!!! ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-05-07 19:50 mircea_popescu: apparently there's a /download/ too but not linked from anywhere.
asciilifeform: bottom right hand side!
asciilifeform: srsly
asciilifeform: had it last june even iirc.
mod6: <+j-dawg> yo <<< hahahah yes!
mod6: ;;later tell trinque so how can shinohai help build out wiki.deedbot.org? is there some web-code he can write? or perhaps just preparing articles?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mod6: ;;later tell trinque your thoughts on this are much appreciated. hit me up when you get a chance to think on it.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
deedbot: [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Pete buys a minivan. - http://www.contravex.com/2016/05/07/pete-buys-a-minivan/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform oh i c. missed it.
mod6: so yeah, funks patch needs to be rebased.
shinohai: mod6: didja check the copy I sent? dunno if I did it right
mod6: im looking at btcbase.org/patches/funken_prikey_tools/file
mod6: anyway, that's not the end of the world or anything.
mod6: you would have to have had all the latest pressed out, then patch the code in by hand
mod6: i'll do that. it's fine.
mod6: that'll get me a good review of the code changes anyway.
shinohai: Yeah I had to patch in by hand after press to get it working :/
mod6: no worries.
deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 53158319 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'n parks <n.parks@gmail.com>; ' - http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/CE950BA464382BDA2D85A5D454A725D96DCB1BCAA57E83B41D941B3FE86CA41C ☟︎
phf: mod6: hey, i checked the state of patches, and http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=stable is identical to http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/patches/
mircea_popescu: o hey, new one.
phf: so i suspect that whatever differences in press are a result of press algo. also funken is in an experimental set, and that's all the patches that i saw floating around that are not in the official release and not have been explicitly deprecated
phf: experimental doesn't press cleanly half the time, because of rebasing issue. for example it has polarbeard's patches that link into graph, but are all over the place with their press dependency
mod6: http://dpaste.com/1ABFB3E.txt
mod6: phf: lemme see here...
mod6: alright. so, a: i was looking at whatever was listed at btcbase.org/patches/funken_prikey_tools/
mod6: and that seems like it makes sense from where this funken_prikey_tools.vpatch was branched.
mod6: b: your link with patchset=stable looks correct at a glance. your chart is a bit different than mine
mod6: this is because i pin leafs to the top of the graph
mod6: but yah, otherwise that "stable" looks ok. tahnks for taking the time to check.
phf: mod6: yeah, my antecedent's list is actually cut down, but i can't recall by what metric :o
mod6: ?
mod6: you know what is cool though? that you have it so you can change graphs depending on the input -- "experimental" etc
mod6: is there a base link to this page? should be something like trb.btcbase.org or something
mod6: or btcbase.org/trb
mod6: instead of the ? = stuff
phf: http://btcbase.org/patches
phf: takes you to stable
mod6: oh ok that works :]
mod6: thanks!
mod6: how or why did you 'cut down' the antecedents?
mod6: im not sure I follow.
mod6: shinohai: that dpaste above was for you, should be good to go, need to recompile the orchastra with this included and test a bit...
mod6: and then if that works, I'll hand it off to you to see if you can go through the same motions
shinohai: oh ok lemme fire up a VM
mod6: no worries, just demonstrating with that paste that I was able to rebase the patch, drop it into my 'patches' dir (notice the WILD annotation), and press cleanly.
shinohai: ah neat!
mod6: if I use the raw patch from the deal press pukes on an unmatched hash. (a new feature! lol)
mod6: nice to know v does stuff that works
mircea_popescu: phf shouldn't they not actually link then ?
mircea_popescu: i mean... graph's utility is mostly that it mirrors the press, no ?
mod6: shinohai: since we're talkin about it... looks like 'funken_prikey_tools.vpatch' had key.h based off genesis, instead of mod6_der_high_low_s.vpatch : http://dpaste.com/0DWTN8S.txt
mod6: anyway, just as illustration
shinohai: werd
mod6: ok lemme see if i can build this thing
mod6: i think i'll take this chance to truncate this 22G log file too
mod6: haha
shinohai: 22G O.o
mod6: yeah my bitcoind logfile
mod6: (its been running for /a while/)
mod6 builds trb with key tools