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mircea_popescu: there's no hard and fast requirement
that
the bootstrapper needs
to use less
than
the full system memory, which is mb in any case.
bvt: asciilifeform: yes, ending up with
the same gnu stuff is pretty sad work result
mircea_popescu: i didn't mean
the code, i meant
the ram it needs
to function.
mircea_popescu: that's in fact one of
the few parts where
the historical constraint bears no relevancy
today.
mircea_popescu: but look how it mirrors what we want from a putative
tmsr.php or
tmsr.xml or
tmsr.tcl or w.e!
mircea_popescu: bvt, so put
the matter
to him plainly, "look,
the republic is considering
this, either come over and make your case or what d oyou want
to do" ?
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: i suspect
though
the earlier discussion of "what do we want for a scripting language" is deeply if unobviously related
to "what is bootstrap done by"
mircea_popescu: moreover, i dunno of any well working bootstrappers for whatever embedded / mircro / whatever you
take application
that actually bootstraps on c
bvt: i also don't like how at
the 'mes' stage a linux kernel 'magically' appears as
the underlying substrape, while stage0 parts are designed
to work without os
bvt: asciilifeform:
they claim
that it is work-in-progress, but in fact c compiler
that manages
to compile
tcc may be less
then 10% of required work.
bvt: OriansJ in #bootstrappable has a notion of hygiene (at least basic, ie groks fits-in-head), and still works on
the stage0; i had no interaction with janneke (mes author) yet, so can't make claims about him. he does make some noise in
the #bootstrappable and #guix
mircea_popescu: bvt, did you identify any live ones among
the authors/participants ?
bvt: linux bootstrap with actual mes is way more disappointingto stage0 components (the claim is 'c compiler is scheme and scheme interpreter in c', but in fact
they require bash, patch,
tar, etc. for
the bootstrap).
bvt: hello. i did not manage
to finish work on mes report part 2 last week, and i don't have a possibility
to do any work
this week. i plan
to finish it around weekend next week.
mircea_popescu: (they're prolly
trying
to get into costa rica illegally, as nobody here can distinguiush nicas and mexicans. but anyway)
mircea_popescu: apparently idiots don't get names,
they get collapsed into
the
tree of
their stupidities.
mircea_popescu: i dunno why don't
they just put
the "fuel economy magnets" people in congress directly. properly speaking,
there's no other substance
to "america".
mircea_popescu: poor but stupid yankee kids, hearing of something in
that vein, imagined
the ~same can be obtained not only very cheaply, but importantly using only items accessible --
the only enduring ideology of
that place. and so...
the yankee is moronic enough
to act as if a feather suffices
to be 2nd line english elite.)
mircea_popescu: (likbez : as grand
tours became popularized, in
the interim before cook's mass commercialization
thereof, a lot of 2nd hand british elite kids were exposed
to italian fashion and atmosphere ; gained an appreciation of aforeunknown pasta, ie maccaroni, and started a whole epicene fashion including ridiculous dress and assorted faggotry.
mircea_popescu: in
the words of
their national anthem, "he puts a feather in his cap and calls it macaroni"
mircea_popescu: the latter's a little more fopish and sophisticated, but
then again
the former's born in whichever unknown swamp amidst our colonies.
mircea_popescu: so i dunno
that
there's a substantial difference, ideologically, between kennan and churchill.
mircea_popescu: i don;t have a very clear view of patton ; but churchill is exactly as much a socialist as
the whole
temperance movement. he was unequivocally identified as such by ~all contemporaries, what, just because dumb soviet kid never heard of churchill other
than for one newspaper notice dated 1945
this means something ? by
the
time hitler came
to power churchill had been an openly socialist politician for a decade+
BingoBoingo: I got
the plata back. Picking up different beefier machine
tomorrow from a vendor in centro.
mircea_popescu: he was factually very influential "russian blue expert for
to explain
to american red how does
the blue relate
to me"
a111: Logged on 2019-03-26 09:18 mircea_popescu: "The present generation of Russians have never known spontaneity of collective action. If, consequently, anything were ever
to occur
to disrupt
the unity and efficacy of
the Party as a political instrument, Soviet Russia might be changed overnight from one of
the strongest
to one of
the weakest and most pitiable of national societies."
a111: Logged on 2014-08-12 02:19
TimSwanson: Because
that's how normal debates work
a111: Logged on 2019-03-26 08:58 mircea_popescu: n direction, stopping only when it meets with some unanswerable force.
The individuals who are
the components of
this machine are unamenable
to argument or reason, which comes
to
them from outside sources.
Their whole
training has
taught
them
to mistrust and discount
the glib persuasiveness of
the outside world.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 23:10 mircea_popescu: kanzure " Obviously
there is no possiblity of meaning outside of a structure of authority, and
the authority can not be predicated on
the meaning."
a111: Logged on 2019-03-26 08:58 mircea_popescu: nt: namely,
the fact
that
the leadership is at liberty
to put forward for
tactical purposes any particular
thesis which it finds useful
to
the cause at any particular moment and
to require
the faithful and unquestioning acceptance of
that
thesis by
the members of
the movement as a whole.
This means
that
truth is not a constant but is actually created, for all intents and purposes, by
the Soviet leaders
themselves. It may v
mircea_popescu: phf, on
the other hand, re-rendering is not ~that~ expensive for
text.
phf: nginx knows how
to cache items properly, but backend doesn't send proper headers yet,
to indicate invalidation.
there's really no reason anything in btcbase/patches needs
to rerender itself everytime, but
the relevant bits are not in place.
mircea_popescu: "The present generation of Russians have never known spontaneity of collective action. If, consequently, anything were ever
to occur
to disrupt
the unity and efficacy of
the Party as a political instrument, Soviet Russia might be changed overnight from one of
the strongest
to one of
the weakest and most pitiable of national societies."
☟︎ mircea_popescu: are not likely
to be swayed by any normal logic in
the words of
the bourgeois representative. Since
there can be no appeal
to common purposes,
there can be no appeal
to common mental approaches.
mircea_popescu: Like
the white dog before
the phonograph,
they hear only
the "master's voice." And if
they are
to be called off from
the purposes last dictated
to
them, it is
the master who must call
them off."
Thus
the foreign representative cannot hope
that his words will make any impression on
them.
The most
that he can hope is
that
they will be
transmitted
to
those at
the
top, who are capable of changing
the party line. But even
those
mircea_popescu: n direction, stopping only when it meets with some unanswerable force.
The individuals who are
the components of
this machine are unamenable
to argument or reason, which comes
to
them from outside sources.
Their whole
training has
taught
them
to mistrust and discount
the glib persuasiveness of
the outside world.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: ont-fucking-yield/][an unshakable stubbornness and steadfastness] in its orientation.
This orientation can be changed at will by
the Kremlin but by no other power. Once a given party line has been laid down on a given issue of current policy,
the whole Soviet governmental machine, including
the mechanism of diplomacy, moves inexorably along
the prescribed path, like a persistent
toy automobile wound up and headed in a give
mircea_popescu: ary from week
to week, from month
to month. It is nothing absolute and immutable -- nothing which flows from objective reality. It is only
the most recent manifestation of
the wisdom of
those in whom
the ultimate wisdom is supposed
to reside, because
they represent
the logic of history.
The accumulative effect of
these factors is
to give
to
the whole subordinate apparatus of Soviet power [
http://trilema.com/2016/and-they-w mircea_popescu: nt: namely,
the fact
that
the leadership is at liberty
to put forward for
tactical purposes any particular
thesis which it finds useful
to
the cause at any particular moment and
to require
the faithful and unquestioning acceptance of
that
thesis by
the members of
the movement as a whole.
This means
that
truth is not a constant but is actually created, for all intents and purposes, by
the Soviet leaders
themselves. It may v
☟︎ mircea_popescu: "On
the principle of infallibility
there rests
the iron discipline of
the Communist Party. In fact,
the
two concepts are mutually self-supporting. Perfect discipline requires recognition of infallibility. Infallibility requires
the observance of discipline. And
the
two go far
to determine
the behaviorism of
the entire Soviet apparatus of power. But
their effect cannot be understood unless a
third factor be
taken into accou
mircea_popescu: "Now it lies in
the nature of
the mental world of
the Soviet leaders, as well as in
the character of
their ideology,
that no opposition
to
them can be officially recognized as having any merit or justification whatsoever. Such opposition can flow, in
theory, only from
the hostile and incorrigible forces of [???]"
mircea_popescu: meanwhile on
topics of "usg,
the latest socialism", i very warmly recommend kennan's 1947 sources of soviet conduct.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-25 16:51 hanbot: nope, fuck me, still broken. i'm going
to have
to regrind again, meanwhile i have meattasks in
town.
this'll be done
today.
BingoBoingo: Well, Lincoln and Seward already happened. Place already on going
to shit course.
BingoBoingo: Well not max int. Big int
that would now be fairly small int because inflation and debasement.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-25 00:55 asciilifeform: when patient dun seem
to even blink from cone insertion ,
the natural response is
to give him bigger cone. i fully expect
the process will continue in
this vein
BingoBoingo: This is for
the ammo
to be in illinois, maker has
to serialize bullets plus + 0.005 USD
tax per bullet so Illinois can bungle a
tracking system
BingoBoingo: California's derp is
the gun stamps
the case with gun's number
BingoBoingo: ^ 500 counts of Class A Misdemeanor could be yours for
the low price of 19.59 USD and presence in Illinois after January 1st, 2020
hanbot: nope, fuck me, still broken. i'm going
to have
to regrind again, meanwhile i have meattasks in
town.
this'll be done
today.
☟︎