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phf: bvt: http://bvt-trace.net/2019/03/mes-part-1-stage0/ << "can to be implemented" "layouts textual strings"(?)
diana_coman: trinque: is deedbot down?
trinque: thanks all.
asciilifeform: grr loox like we missed today's mp_en_viaje
asciilifeform wonders re status of the 'escape from fleanode' proj.. ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: mod6 et al ^ ?
asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf wouldja be willing to stand up a logger instance for #pizarro ? appears that ben_vulpes and his bot, may have been lost at sea or whoknows
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-15#1908619 << sorry about the whole http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-26#1904872 not working out, btw. eminently not your fault. ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-15 21:30 bvt: the only smaller item in my pipeline is unrolling comba for ch10 multiplication; and i'd like to give a shot a 'kill /dev/random and /dev/urandom' experiment, replacing them with buffers than can be directly fed from userspace, but this - even later.
a111: Logged on 2019-03-26 20:07 mircea_popescu: bvt, so put the matter to him plainly, "look, the republic is considering this, either come over and make your case or what d oyou want to do" ?
asciilifeform waves to mp_en_viaje
mp_en_viaje: how goes it ?
asciilifeform: 18c
asciilifeform: and you, mp_en_viaje ?
mp_en_viaje: been walking about budapest all day.
mp_en_viaje: hungarians are fucking insufferable, for the most part.
asciilifeform: why's this ?
mp_en_viaje: they are geometrically challenged in a manner quite reminiscent of their sad lang. i am starting to suspect the distance between euclidean geometry and what's going on in hungarian skull is commensurate with distance between human lang and their finougric atrocity.
BingoBoingo: Few handicaps as bad a sadlang
asciilifeform: asciilifeform does not know hungarian, but was under impression that it was a full-featured lang with 20-sumthing cases etc
BingoBoingo: As evidenced by the javascript brain cancer
mp_en_viaje: can't park, can't drive, can't fucking walk, all sorrts of common sense items ("no, do NOt drive right into a main lane from the side street to the point of near collision after which suddenly and unexpectedly back away at speed towards a crosswalk") do not come naturally to them.
mp_en_viaje: saw three separate road incidents avoided by the grace of the wounds of saint francis only ; while watching hanbot and 15 our of 18 possible people get into each other's way and so on.
asciilifeform: so far the only folx i met who ~can~ park properly, are (oddly enuff) the americans
mp_en_viaje: zee germans park fine.
asciilifeform: aa but i not yet met'em
asciilifeform believes
mp_en_viaje: and then the sirens all the time. at some point i was like "turn that shit OFF!!!"
mp_en_viaje: (unsurprising to anyone with me, the siren shut up instantly. i can turn off sirens by yelling!)
BingoBoingo: I don't think I here sirens here more than weekly or biweekly
asciilifeform: 'some may have escaped from the siren's song, but from their silence -- no one'(tm)(r) lol
mp_en_viaje: something like two dozen separate blarings, i mean gimme a fucking break, there can't be that many emergencies
mp_en_viaje: o wait, geometrically challenged people...
mp_en_viaje: as i write this, i'm seated in a non-square room.
mp_en_viaje: in fact, it has 17 edges.
asciilifeform: for some reason i thought this was common in old europistan
mp_en_viaje: not THAT common.
mp_en_viaje: anyway, also had a palinkaoff, ima post pictures i think.
asciilifeform: wassat?
mp_en_viaje: when you order all the palinka in the menu
asciilifeform: a
mp_en_viaje: but anyway, yes, somehow spatial navigation schelling points common to all other humans ain;t obvious to hungarians.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: is this 1st time you went there ? or did they fughet how to spatian since n-1 ?
asciilifeform: *spatial
mp_en_viaje: other than this, the chicks are often even tall, and commonly cute -- except if you beheaded a hundred or two alongside another hundred or two 13 yo boys and sewed the heads back on randomly you could scarcely tell the difference.
mp_en_viaje: what's the point of being a 5"9 female if you're gonna carry less ass than me ?!
BingoBoingo: More stairs!
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, haven't been here in almost 20 years ; i dun recall this problem, but then again....
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, i fear it's the genes.
mp_en_viaje: all these annoying b cup euro tits, too. 24yo pubescentitis
mp_en_viaje: b shouldn't even be a cup.
mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-04-15#1908627 << ships was cedar not oak. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-04-15 22:10 asciilifeform: bvt: i dun expect any oak. for 1 thing, most of the old-growth wood of the kind which built the great cathedrals, sailing ships, etc. is gone.
mp_en_viaje: and yes, gone since 2 centuries ago
mp_en_viaje: large part of why move to ironclads. "dood... cedar's gone"
asciilifeform: there's still cedar in ru far east iirc
mp_en_viaje: possibru. but greeks used lebanose
mp_en_viaje: the cedars of lebanon
asciilifeform: ( recall the story where jp in '90s bought entire steamer of old sovok bottle crates. for the cedar )
BingoBoingo in a country where large forests are claimed to be a recent (late 80's) invention.
BingoBoingo: No appreciable hydrocarbons in the ground so they started planting Eucalyptus in 1989. For the estufas de leña though paper mills followed the forresting
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile in France http://www.lefigaro.fr/culture/pierre-palmade-place-en-garde-a-vue-dans-une-affaire-de-viol-presume-20190411
mp_en_viaje: wtf is a case of "presumed" rape.
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/04/google-hit-with-multi-million-dollar-cleanup-fee-after-withdrawing-experimental-fiber-service-from-louisville/ << Qntra -- Google Hit With Multi Million Dollar Cleanup Fee After Withdrawing Experimental Fiber Service From Louisville
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: The old man clearly was predatory to the vulnerable young man... Femstate means if a young buck has any color on him his agency is female.
mp_en_viaje: yeah but i mean...
BingoBoingo: Well, don't think of it as any France you've read about. Think about it as a US college campus post 2015
mp_en_viaje: evidently.
BingoBoingo: Maybe Notre Dame didn't want to be what France became anymore and went the "an hero" route
asciilifeform: re fiber -- good % of usa is still using modem over copper. somewhere near zimbabwe level of net pipe service, overall.
asciilifeform: if you want fiber, it's 100+/mo for ~minimal~ bw , and then only in (small %) of the habitable coasts
asciilifeform: none of the stated excuses really pass laugh test, either ( 'ohnoez, expensive to rip up asphalt' -- but they do it all year long, for 0 actual reason, largely to keep up 'road work doubles traffic fines' thing they have going in many states )
BingoBoingo: There's outposts in the interior with fiber, but the demographics gotta be right http://www.highlandcommunicationservices.com/HCSResInt.php
BingoBoingo: That particular example hangs their fiber on the light poles
mp_en_viaje: i got fiber ~free
mp_en_viaje: 5eur/mo
mp_en_viaje: 1gbit
asciilifeform: ^ was the advertised rate on the billboards in timis iirc
mp_en_viaje: pretty much all of yurp. the german rings
mp_en_viaje: legend has it they're as thick as a subway tunnel
mp_en_viaje is preparing another photopost
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: these iirc tend to be dug along side railroad right-of-way. in europistan, a++. in ameristan, on other hand..
asciilifeform bbl:tea
mp_en_viaje: btw, in other mp disposes, the world executes : been changing dough all over without any id. germany usd to eur ("do you need id ?" "nah" "can you do 5k ?" "if that's what you want..."), hungary eur to huf, you name it.
mp_en_viaje: people could give less of a shit about the retarded states of america and its pompous pretense, somehow, maybe. not sure how exactly.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/budapest-and-such/ << Trilema -- Budapest and such
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: oddly enuff in ro 100% asked for passport ( whether this is always, or simply cuz asciilifeform looked like rube -- nfi )
asciilifeform: iirc in BingoBoingostan ditto
BingoBoingo: I've never been asked for ID at a Cambio to change currency either direction
BingoBoingo: "Me gustaría pesos" (hands cash, recieves other cash)
asciilifeform: possibly i fughet
asciilifeform: but in ro defo was