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spyked: hi shinohai. I compiled it and ran it, but running trilema js still doesn't work. I've also tried a few other browsers with similar results. I am trying some simpler js snippets to get an idea of what works and what not
spyked: hey mod6, I just checked v99993 using ffa ch1-5 and also used it to test a press of phf's vtools and it works fine. NB: Debian systems are now pretty much broken and won't allow setting the default gpg to v1, so I had to manually replace the gpg calls in v.pl to use gpg1.
shinohai: and phf's diff + ur vtron passed a personal vtest 2gether as well
mod6: I suppose, if we could get the following commitments: 1) Someone in L1 (L2?) to source two new machines [with equiv specs] for The Foundation, delivered to ben_vulpes March 31st. 2) A delivery plan for these two new machines to Pizaroo in .uy.
ben_vulpes: i've got a pretty cut-and-dried cost basis for those two machines. it'll look like an line expense for the machines and hardware, followed by a line of income for sale-of-assets matching to the satoshi, plus possibly a token fee to the foundation for assembling them.
ben_vulpes: hey mod6 if there's demand for boxes, would you be averse to selling the machines we got for the foundation to pizarro for leasing on? we can always get another couple of machines, it's not as though the two we bought for the foundation are super important to get racked right now; i'm sure other folks might be willing to rent 'em out and that'd be a great thing for pizarro's cashflow
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i dunno that i could be arsed to read/whatever a contract tbh ; but do you have a gearlist or anything yet ?
ben_vulpes: trinque and anyone else interested in colocating with Pizarro, here's a draft contract for review: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/MBQmX/?raw=true
mod6: Ah crap. Disregard this ^ -- I screwed up and created a detached sig of the charter.txt proper, not the vpatch. hurr durr.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-22 01:00 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-22#1785473 << thanks for fast testing! the warning is harmless, i frankly got desensitized to it, and it slipped through the cracks. the entire error.c needs to be cut anyway, but it's a low hanging fruit
mircea_popescu: it's like a better romania of the 90s.
mircea_popescu: pretty great. on the tail end of a "hey, wanna go to the beach ?" "sure!"
mod6: Anyway, phf did a quick change. It's all good now:
mod6: alright! My bad before, that problem wasn't an "error" proper, it was a Warning, a Warning in 'error.c'. If I'd read more carefully I'd probably have noticed.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-22 00:18 mod6: phf: was able to press just fine, I did get an error on build, but it still spit me out a vdiff: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/5Szrt/?raw=true
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-22#1785473 << thanks for fast testing! the warning is harmless, i frankly got desensitized to it, and it slipped through the cracks. the entire error.c needs to be cut anyway, but it's a low hanging fruit ☝︎☟︎
mod6: fwiw I used that binary produced, even with the error, to test and see if it would yield the same vdiff as the original would, and so far, looks like it works just the same as printed on the box. I don't have as good of a test case as hanbot will have tho. Mine was very basic.
mod6: phf: was able to press just fine, I did get an error on build, but it still spit me out a vdiff: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/5Szrt/?raw=true ☟︎
lobbes: mircea_popescu: aha. Other than the subj. popping up in logs occasionally and my looking it up I really don't have a firm grasp on merkle trees. I will happily digest and produce blog post once completed with homework.
mircea_popescu: normally i'd have alf explain it to you ; but he's busy. so what i want you to do is write a blog article about "how to use merkle trees to avoid duplicate problem in web page archiving", and then i'll comment on it. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-02-21 17:59 lobbes: Phew, been thinking through this archive download process the past few weeks. For one, I realized that I needed to do -some- type of "deduping" on the contents of each zip I've downloaded. Ended up building a process that hashes the hashes of each file in each zip. Identified some 30k dupes this way. Currently building the front-end queries to show only distinct results in searches.
lobbes: This exercise lead me to think about many other small but important details regarding how download requests will work. I'ma thinking I ought to bake a blog post for general input
lobbes: Phew, been thinking through this archive download process the past few weeks. For one, I realized that I needed to do -some- type of "deduping" on the contents of each zip I've downloaded. Ended up building a process that hashes the hashes of each file in each zip. Identified some 30k dupes this way. Currently building the front-end queries to show only distinct results in searches. ☟︎
shinohai: I had to screenshot this because protected tweets, but wanted to preserve the lulz: https://imgur.com/a/y6YoK
mod6: guess it was a long time ago.
mod6: <+shinohai> Did you have a Big blue Ox too? << would have been better to ride an ox than fight through all the Tucson stoplights. But, no, sadly.
mod6: Ah, that was a different cover. I guess in 2009 it was "Person of the Year". Seriously. Person. Of. The. Year.
mod6: I had remembered reading about that in there, probably in like 99 or 2000. This was eight years later. I knew though, once it was a thing, then I had to get involved.
mod6: Wasn't actually too much later I was walkin down the street in Tucson thinking... "I wonder when someone is going to make a currency out of cryptography like Schneier was talking about in Applied Crypto.."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: plox to clarify what it was you wanted a photosouvenir of -- asciilifeform's torture room clocks ?
mod6: Gave that shit up in a hurry.
mod6: Shit is like razor wire or something. And what's worse, is they're a sort of locust style tree -- and when they have leaves on 'em shit sticks together like velcro.
shinohai: Did you have a Big blue Ox too?
mod6: Umm no. Those mesquite trees and palo verde trees have NASTY barbs on them. After cutting down 1 mesquite tree it looked like I got into a fight with a wolverine.
mod6: I needed some cash in like 2008 and was like, "alright, lemme get a saw and do some slash & burn for cash...". Was thinking, "Oh yeah, eazy-money, here we go!"
mod6: hehehe. it's been a steady march into perdition in the salt mines the last week or so.
mod6: im gonna give this shit up, go back to being a lumberjack.
shinohai: Poor guy is a java developer :/
mod6: I had a guy tell me with a straight face, "I only write performant code."
ben_vulpes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6q4n5TQnpA << oblig from when a million meant something
mircea_popescu: sounds like a quarter million well spent
ben_vulpes: and ofc a non-draggable scroll bar
ben_vulpes: there was also an ad for some kind of novel pharmacofinelyspunhydrocarbon for the sexually-active-but-wanting-to-not-catch-teh-HIV (which, excuse me darling, why are they advertising us aidsmeds on the craplet) that was 30% vertical space for ad and 70% vertical space dedicated to a slow-scroll of finetext with i shit thee not buttons that had triggerable down and up states but *did not affect the scrolling*
mircea_popescu: not a particularly well understood topic in any case.
BingoBoingo: Ah, that. Still quite a few of the 5 hour a year crowd too.
mircea_popescu: shinohai i got a hp laptop recently too, say, but desktops really should be assembled from parts.
mircea_popescu: for a coupla hours five times a year, such participation as'd befit the bad name his culture got.
mircea_popescu: no but i mean the fucking lameness of it. dood's got a "well rounded internet experience", he's got a mortgage and a boring wife and a boring job and a hp he bought at the store, and he "logs in" for a coupla hours four times a week or w/e. every nine weeks and a half we pop up again in the rotation, he's done 4chan, reddit, facebook, whatever, "i wonder what THOSE zany kids are up to these days".
BingoBoingo: It'll prolly be a while till the USD downmarch shakes out the whole "remember we showed up once X years ago" crowd.
mircea_popescu: we don't give a shit about your persona. for one thing it's not even remotely acceptable, let alone cool.
mircea_popescu: a great.
trinque: did you have a trb question, a gpg question, indigestion, what
BingoBoingo: ag3nt_zer0: What troubling news? TRB still exists, and management of the ISP development in a transition process http://pizarroisp.net/?p=5
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/dentist-with-a-view/ << Trilema - Dentist with a view
deedbot: http://barksinthewind.com/2016/wp-content-for-a/ << BARKS IN THE WIND - wp-content for a.
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/02/20/building-a-life-in-montevideo/ << Bingo Blog - Building A Life In Montevideo
mircea_popescu: you'd think someone'd notice if a tool they actually used went away.
shinohai always rather enjoyed it, sort of a treasure hunt of facts if you will.
shinohai: Ghehehe, Google "Hanno Bock" and http://trilema.com/2016/psa-hanno-bock-still-a-deceitful-shitbag/ is still in top 5 results :)
mircea_popescu: schmuck will actually take the time to boot off a different interface, will however NOT take the time to address why he got banned in the first place.
mod6: I'm gonna try again with a different browser.
a111: Logged on 2018-02-17 21:13 ben_vulpes: i would also like to deposit these funds with a non-involved individual to seal in blood the capitalization of this entity
a111: Logged on 2018-02-20 04:12 mircea_popescu: im guessing the manager holds on to them ? or yuou want a separate treasurer ?
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-20#1785233 << http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-17#1784554 << treasurer still wanted, but i'll do the duties if nobody steps up; actually strikes me as a core responsibility of the manager of a bitcoin company ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: im guessing the manager holds on to them ? or yuou want a separate treasurer ? ☟︎
mod6: Question 4: Where should mod6's and asciilifeform's, and whatever remaining Bitcoin Foundation funds be sent? Do we need a public address to pay these to?
mod6: Ah, alright. Maybe there should be a line in there about that, and perhaps unanimous decision required. Or something of the kind.
mod6: Question 3: From the language of part, it sounds like asciilifeform, mod6 and Both Co-Chairs can each appoint one board member. A total of three board members will exist. Can an elected/appointed board member give up his seat at any time for another person? Or if not is the term of the board seat for the existance of the entity?
mod6: Question 2: Where will the shares be issued? Or are they simply just to remain non-transferrable and a line item on the AN0 sheet?
mod6: Just being a bit more clear on that part.
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> mircea_popescu: i gotta say that i do not understand the point of the candid photo request << There is a crisis of faith, and the request is for an act of good faith in addressing the crisis.
ben_vulpes: i worry it'll wreck a thing i value and have put some sweat into for reasons beyond my ken.
mircea_popescu: i'm going out on a limb here. i get to say what are teh trifles.
ben_vulpes: sure. i'd hate to lose your custom or his capitalization over what seems to me a trifle whose import i do not understand in the context of the isp.
mircea_popescu: it's a sad fate to ~act out~ your own life, of all things.
mircea_popescu: im sure there's some poor africans in a center for businessmen "owing" each other trillions in notional btc as we speak, what's to keep 'em.
mircea_popescu: joecool "talking about bitcoin, even in a group, does not..." etc.
joecool: there's a few hundred pages
shinohai: Oh I'm very curious, wondering if this is a hoaxtoshi sham or what.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i guess once the eucrypt adventure is sealed a cover letter re ada-c integration may be a good idea, for future reference.
BingoBoingo: joecool: Write up a draft, if it's good it gets published but the premise makes this seem unlikely as framed by "probable creators"
joecool: nobody else has reported on it yet, but it's only a matter of time
mircea_popescu: diana_coman so basically a rut is shaping up here, "use gpr from adacore -- gnat / others dun actually work" ?
diana_coman: as all my non-adacore environments proved a mess
diana_coman: theoretically as far as I can tell it's a feature, not a bug aka "it's not gnatmake's business to do this, go use gprbuild"
diana_coman: in lulz from the (eu)crypt: gnatmake helpfully complains about all sorts in a .gpr file; once everything is fine, it.. fails with a very informative "aggregate libraries are not supported"; and indeed one has to use gprbuild and nothing else for aggregate libraries
ben_vulpes: https://arxiv.org/abs/1802.06038 << "on a subset of 3,759 contracts which we sampled for concrete validation and manual analysis, we reproduce real exploits at a true positive rate of 89%, yielding exploits for 3,686 contracts"
BingoBoingo: 's 500 pesos less than a benjie
mod6: Gotta few things to take care of, be back in a bit.
mod6: What a time to be alive, I tell you.
mod6: trinque: hey, suggestion here for deedbot.org -- A link from the homepage to the Help (help.html) would be nice. or i'd settle for one in the "frequently asked questions" page too.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, much in the vein of "all lugs tumble the same in the lug tumbler" point from before, this is ~almost exactly~ how it works in fiatlandia too. a week's worth of hairpulling and lost nights and so on.
mircea_popescu: anyway, 11 btc is actually a huge first round. you can always do an a round later.
ben_vulpes: "mod6 and ben_vulpes have extended 5 BTC of The Bitcoin Foundation's capital in credit to further start-up and operating costs associated with taking over the ashes of BISP and bringing a new venture to profitability. asciilifeform will match the Foundation's capital 1-to-1. "
ben_vulpes: well that's a doubling of extant capital commitments, but that works for me.
mircea_popescu: and with that, there you go : have mod6 and asciilifeform each pay in 10 btc, have the foundation give out 1 btc also, making a total of 11 ; give tbf and the equity partners a seat each for a total of 3 ; have ben_vulpes and BingoBoingo get stock warrants monthly on some sort of agreed upon scheme and there you go.
mircea_popescu: gullible fool that i am, i will even allow myself to be seduced into living the 5th point ; on conditions : to asciilifeform that he principally sticks to a timekeeping and scheduling method of his design, at the bare minimum the proverbial chess clock and corkboard ; and subsidiarily that he gets the girl to take a (~candid!~) shot of him with the instruments sometime this week. give the girl a camera, have her take a bunch,
mod6: Well, chew on this a bit. Let's think all this through.
mod6: That may not be a bad idea. However, there's maybe a lot more that needs to go into creating something like that. Not sure what our time-horizon is here...
mircea_popescu: and yes, this is what would probably be a fine solution here, you taking warrants. if the equity value goes up you're obviously entitled to profit ; and otherwise... well... more work to do.