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Framedragger: (note, slow start, spoiler: derision revealed after premises presented)
Framedragger: nice foreshadowing.. fb appears to have invented a whole calculus.. "PC speech + PC speech = PC speech", but "PC + NPC = NPC" lol
Framedragger: "such as “migrants are dirty” is allowed, whereas “migrants are dirt” isn’t."
Framedragger: "A sentence reportedly containing an expletive directly followed by a reference to a religious affiliation (for example: “f*cking Muslims”) is not allowed. However, the same does not go for the term “migrants,” as migrants are allegedly only a “quasi protected category.” Additionally, Facebook reportedly allows for posts that could be deemed hateful against migrants under certain circumstances. For example, a statement
Framedragger: "that receive extra protection (for example, under “age,” criteria such as “youth” and “senior citizen” receive priority)."
Framedragger:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/social-media/facebook-leaked-docs/ << lulzy. "Facebook does not permit “verbal attacks” on a “protected category,” according to the documents. These self-determined categories are currently based on a number of factors, including: sex, religious affiliation, gender, race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, national origin, disability or serious illness. Some of these groups contain sub-categories"
Framedragger: eh, whatevs. i redirect the masses to f.a.q. etc as needed.
Framedragger: i.e., maybe it's not clear because asciilifeform is too shy
Framedragger: but also asciilifeform's; and if you google phuctor it's.. clear? hm. this goes back to the discussion of kindergarten kids stamping their name everywhere, cf. kids who don't
☟︎ Framedragger: (i clarified to him that it's not my project, dunno how he got the impression)
Framedragger: (and yeah, this dude was like, "hey nice project, how do i submit my key for testing" - cool.)
Framedragger: i think some sysadmins may want to be able to submit their ssh-rsa pubkeys themselves. and phuctor only accepts openpgp format, this needs to be converted (ssh pubkey -> gpg pubkey). so i'm adapting/stealing jurov's script and cleaning it up.
Framedragger: this was while testing a script to be given to this austrian dude who wrote me, asking how to submit his server's ssh key (ssh server running on a nonstandard port)
Framedragger: (metainfo was supposed to be different but i experienced a derp.)
Framedragger: one day i fear of mircea_popescu going into recursive loop by being outraged by wikipedia definitions, using other terms to show his point, and then finding those terms to also be ill-defined on wikipedia. :)
Framedragger: and in other "socpsy" newz,
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0956797616673193 << "When given two scenarios: one in which an individual reacts to his girlfriend’s infidelity by beating her, and the other, by beating her cat, participants judged that the cat beater had worse moral character than the woman beater, even though the act of beating a woman was judged to be more immoral."
Framedragger: indeed, that's be pretty interesting. (chatter came from leaseweb, so unfortunately prolly just a bot. but a polite-enough bot.)
Framedragger: hm, i guess so. seems to be the case. apparently it's a US tech company employee thingie (with some springs of PR by the companies)
Framedragger: oh yeah, i've seen quite a bit of this on various tor irc channels
Framedragger: ^ (not saying it's not a lost cause while working for one of those "tech" "leader" companies, in the way that applying adhesive to a bursting pipe is not fixing a water problem)
Framedragger: << "We, the undersigned, are employees of tech organizations and companies based in the United States. [...] We refuse to build a database of people based on their Constitutionally-protected religious beliefs. We refuse to facilitate mass deportations of people the government believes to be undesirable. "
Framedragger: this means that next time i provide paginated and nicely indexed access to relational data to a customer, i can call the feature "HACK THE SYSTEM"
Framedragger: (only worx for URLs that had already been archived on archive.is (doesn't matter if by scriba or not))
Framedragger: yes, just horribly slow. will look into solutions
Framedragger: oh, i know the issue. damn. basically as part of its "have i archived this?" check it greps through log of "i archived this:"; the "dev" instance was crawling through a 500K logfile, the production one however has to cope with ~220M logfile. not feasible...
Framedragger: ah, i was probably under the assumption that the movement was already directional, i.e. that the next-angle-choice was infrequent...
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: don't think that's nonsense - it's simply introducing a bias into choosing "which direction - left or right - should i prefer", no? or do you mean that it's not "realistic" and would look stupid? (maybe...)
Framedragger: slippery slope into simulating anatomy! (is this bad? mno) :D
Framedragger: you know, sometimes i'm tempted to write up some kind of graphics-less (otherwise it's not feasible) civ-style simulator with proper economics, including contracts, liquidity etc etc. maybe eulora is the place to explore all that hm :)
Framedragger: (which is doable and there are libraries for it, it's just slow of course)
Framedragger: maybe one day eulora will test the limits of common software when the exploration or quality determination during crafting or whatever requires infinite precision real numbers :p
Framedragger: (if you then draw path of person with enough datapoints (sufficient amount of choose-new-angle events), you'd get an arc/circle.)
Framedragger: in math terms, probably that when selecting new angle angle, there is a statistical bias towards one side from the current angle? so that if it were a person, one of the legs would be shorter, and the person would be inclined towards one side when walking somewhere.
Framedragger: (just to be clear, there were two digits wrong (3.14159265_3_5), and the last one (it should go up by one due to proceeding digit). as phf said, math.h has that constant defined, but eh:)
Framedragger: danielpbarron: and since you have three occurrences of it in 3.1415926545 may as well make it into an actual constant var maybe? /trivial-grammer-nazi-notes
Framedragger: actually, that last "5" should be a 6 because the digit that follows is a 9
☟︎ Framedragger: (in .lt it's translated as "they" which is prolly not very good)
Framedragger: (exists, i think, in "being and time"? but i've only read excerpts, longish ago)
Framedragger: asciilifeform: for my education, so the way to make yoke test work is that the 'master' part outputs its clock via the reset pin? (this is prolly what mircea_popescu meant but it's new territory for me).
Framedragger: (but i think i got it why you don't want binary tarball - it'd sure be nice to be able to host a plaintext package, with v sigs etc right there. hm. but then why deedbot the *whole* thing - why not deedbot only hashes of tarball version of webthing. make webthing available to view, but also for those who wish to verify via deedbot, too, make tarball available. not pretty, but worx for *now*.)
Framedragger not sure why vgenesis must be used here, even though in the future that's the correct ideological pathway, sure. but i'm possibly underinformed and out of my element
Framedragger: (i am aware of vdiff barfing over certain character sequences. but maybe it'd be enough to timestamp-and-sign hash for now? to be able to *prove* things.)
Framedragger: what use are they who do not verify anyway? do you expect those who do not verify to verify v sigs?
Framedragger: sure, this isn't a logistical solution, but you'll be able to point to a timestamped-and-signed checksum.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: *for the time being*, can you not hash the package, and deedbot clearsigned hash of package?
Framedragger: (heathen lack of WoT use is indeed frowned-upon and confusing)
Framedragger: (yeah, imo its central focal point *is* the whole reconciliation issue, from epistemology point of view)
Framedragger: (hm, maybe you'd not allow for such a term (transperson) in the first place...)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: so you'd then perhaps say that, maybe, a transperson is doomed to not be able to reconcile i-you and world-you, and it is tragic to that person (but that *pretending* as if one has integrated the two in that instance is very stupid)?
☟︎ Framedragger: i wasn't even aware that their ghetto currently allowed editing of english wiki articles by unregistered accts
Framedragger: " removed a bunch of pseudoscientific poppycock" hahahahahah
Framedragger: haha! right, yeah. good to keep that in mind. (subconsciously, i think, that's why i abbreviated the term, it's pretty derp.) it's sad that some (actually) useful notions are held under its umbrella (such as FAE, even though, yes, we've probably seen the latter defined elsewhere in other ways, and it's something that self-aware people tend to be conscious about anyway.)
Framedragger: ah yeah, i missed that the first time as i had to run off, pity.
Framedragger: and in retrospect, my "/me agrees" was maybe childish, but it wasn't, i must point out, any appeal to kons3nsus. it was more like, "i agree with this point and if anyone has any counterpoints, i'd like to address them, too." something like that.
Framedragger: as wanna-be rebellious as i sometimes pretend to be, re.
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-17#1584820 d), this is maybe clearest way of illustrating what fundamental attribution error (socpsy notion) is, and support it via phenomenological (pardon the tongue) means. i mean, fair enough
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