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ben_vulpes: "dat brat": http://68.media.tumblr.com/f44850d8bf7c57953f8e691de289ae26/tumblr_onl3y0ts3f1tk43c6o1_500.jpg
ben_vulpes: "professionals at work": http://68.media.tumblr.com/8163489294f27fca80a9c7280119d48e/tumblr_onl3y8Pgkg1tk43c6o1_1280.jpg
ben_vulpes: "too much ego in post": http://68.media.tumblr.com/5d355017cf06f5716d7253345d0f50da/tumblr_onl3z3MtUv1tlqnkvo1_500.jpg
ben_vulpes: "hood fun": http://68.media.tumblr.com/52aa220519517830eec96a10ffd1f1e0/tumblr_onugg85C1Z1urwuzno1_1280.jpg
ben_vulpes: http://68.media.tumblr.com/f1e71c86d20bf8935ec32085b935c7f5/tumblr_onwpv2xCpj1w7wz67o1_500.jpg ☟︎
ben_vulpes: "you don't need to have a good car to get tits all over it": http://68.media.tumblr.com/87c0ba72bd3f67142514e6d883499330/tumblr_onvrzukhQt1tpchrmo1_1280.jpg
shinohai rather enjoyed ben_vulpes doggy selctions
mircea_popescu: and, of course, http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3jzrbzo9G1ru00mpo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: to continue the trend, http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqi4h8YRfU1qd0ln0o1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in Church Today, http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1clidy4n61qbj78qo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i dunno how much you partake of whores, but 50yos usually have to be special ordered.
shinohai: Of possible interest to mircea_popescu http://gloriap1948.blogspot.com/?zx=72d308457354f507
a111: Logged on 2017-02-28 17:47 mircea_popescu: honestly i kinda lost interest once it was about shithead news.
asciilifeform: lol, last time mircea_popescu said instead http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-28#1620099 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at burning-things, https://68.media.tumblr.com/3e09593149629679c9849ed70d8f59d0/tumblr_okfx2v5NvY1vj1zedo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: whossat
shinohai: dafuq is that thing on the far right in that pic mircea_popescu ?
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, notice THE LEG ? https://68.media.tumblr.com/9ff0aa6b62a82c76eb8eab2e2b6692fe/tumblr_nfp6uoUwc51shcyjro1_1280.png
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a winblowzism typically found on 'dell', 'hp', similar shitboxes, unpacks a new hdd image from hidden disk partition.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes http://oglaf.com/feral-chic/
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: no?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes do you recall the oglaf with "song of sword and saddle" or what was it
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: surface sources ftw
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: betcha it's better than the well water south of portland
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: http://archive.is/g9Lzf << subj
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: iirc there is a famous 'poison garden' in england somewhere
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didja ever explain to her who's gonna be doing the falling on grenades ?
trinque: really mircea_popescu already did. "I lost a man using Debian machines today." not only do you know something about Debian, you know something about where he was. maybe not as much as you'd like, but you have some coordinates, and more importantly, if you don't suck, *you* aren't dead
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu when you were a kid, did the local boys also do the 'well ~i'll~ X' 'battle of wits' thing ? 'tomorrow i'll bring a TANK!' 'well ~i~ will bring antitank gun!' '~i~ will bring battleship!'
a111: Logged on 2017-03-31 18:09 mircea_popescu: actually i was thinking, im not going to hold another conference, because it's just not a sane opsec proposition. however, one fellow at a time coming down for a week or somesuch is more than tenable. what's airfare, fiddy bux ? pack up the missus an' come say hi.
asciilifeform: ^ asciilifeform: 'say a three megatonne bomb falls, you are 1km from ground zero' mircea_popescu: 'ha-HA! i wouldn't be caught dead near ground zero! foiled!'
asciilifeform: it'd quickly become apparent, neh, whether mircea_popescu (or whoever) did.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the spot check model is, again, wholly inadequate. if you have ONE debianism or heartbleed etc. it literally does not matter worth a shit how 'clean' the remainder of it may have been.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-02 07:36 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-02#1635803 << sysco whitelabels, basically.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: http://ergoemacs.org/misc/Daniel_Weinreb_rebuttal_to_rms.html << see also.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-04 12:28 mircea_popescu: phf the main objection to your quiet style is that now i can't discern whether you a) understood the arguments and are thinking about it ; b) simply didn't understand the arguments or c) understood what was said but didn't judge it any kind of argument. express yourself, don't repress yourself!
scriba: ssh banner of 74.45.231.115 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.2
asciilifeform: openssl s_client -showcerts -connect 74.45.0.65:443 >>>> O=Tropos Networks/OU=Manufacturing/CN=Tropos Router/emailAddress=support@tropos.com
scriba: ssh banner of 74.45.0.64 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.1
scriba: ssh banner of 74.45.0.65 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.1
asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu any idea whatever happened to 'induced beta decay' ? ( e.g., http://www.wmsym.org/archives/1984/V1/89.pdf ) -- the thing with the 'convert forbidden states to permitted with magnetic field'
scriba: ssh banner of 77.108.80.67 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9
scriba: ssh banner of 77.108.80.67 as seen on 2016-06-13: SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9
a111: Logged on 2017-04-04 02:19 mircea_popescu: leaving aside that if you got to meet beria it was all fun and games from there on, the "discotheque" was a thing even for plebs.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: solar panel is not a 'fast' device.
asciilifeform: upstack mircea_popescu had the right notion, though, it is difficult to build a decay rng that does not rot.
asciilifeform: beta will go a mile like mircea_popescu will sit down in his chair and go through the floor and into china sea.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Rio Rita | Mild mannered coffee shop by day, swanky lounge by night.: <http://www.riorita.net/>; Our Menu | Rio Rita: <http://www.riorita.net/our_menu/>; Rio Rita - Home | Facebook: <https://www.facebook.com/RioRitaAustin/>
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: 'surprise!' -- it doesn't
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: see my ada snippets from last week, pasted here
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: it isn't hard to do, no; i have it (tentatively) working right here. but -- it ~is~ O(n).
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what precisely are you thinking of attempting?
asciilifeform: ( i will say, 0 of the things that drove mircea_popescu barking mad about the place, bother me at all. then again i was there for a week.. ) ☟︎
ben_vulpes: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.h?v=wires_rev1#0261 << kinda looks like all one needs to bake CTxIn's is the hash of the transaction and output index, can someone spot check this for me? ☟︎
trinque: ben_vulpes: apr 1 ?
trinque: mircea_popescu: clearly buttstrapping
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: titanium car would work quite well.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it ain't 'the software', either, it's a set of algos, they do not even take much paper to describe.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-14 17:34 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-14#1626921 << yes. there's absolutely no argument that bitcoin dying on the enemy's terms would be an unmitigated catastrophe. chernobyl pales in comparison, it'd be on the level of "wheel is useless anyway" wisdom of dropped-on-head amerindians, or "oh pretty, spinning wheels" greek steam engine. utterly catastrophic. which is why eg http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-march-2013-statement/#selection
asciilifeform: presently i suspect that mircea_popescu has a correct understanding of thompson.
asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu has it, there is a variety of ways to break out of a hypothetically thompsonized universe. but -- for some reason -- ~entirely 'not done'.
asciilifeform: but yes, you can elementarily 'exit the cave' by using grid paper, head compiler, toggles. in fact this was one of the first ( the first ?) threads with asciilifeform on mircea_popescu's www comment section
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is conceivable that no one now living has ever used a 'pre-patch' gcc. that's the idea, that 'gcc' is not in fact defined by its src, but by the aggregate of 'the published src' + 'the extant sets of built gccs'
phf: mircea_popescu: of course not predict. likewise no concept of AI is involved anywhere
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i can trivially patch gcc such that anything later built that uses any string ops whatsoever, with external inputs, is exploitable.
phf: mircea_popescu: if rotor4 comes out, must patch again. there's no inf on our side despite the process being potentially inf, because we're limited by time/energy
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nobody reads multiMB of asm.
phf: mircea_popescu: unless you have full control over your bootstrap machine you're not guaranteed to have full control over your bootstrapped machine.
asciilifeform: you cannot gabriel_laddel your way around the shitfest that is the iron.
phf: mircea_popescu: i'm not saying that it's going to be infected. i'm saying that's what trust means in a bootstrapping problem. if you're not concerned about that angle, you can relax trust requirements significantly.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if i can't connect comp to $othercomp at bus speed - you lost me.
phf: mircea_popescu: trust in bootstrapping problem is a specific concern that comes from ken thompson's "reflections on trusting trust"
phf: mircea_popescu: that's not directly relevant to my point though
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: quite conceivably commodore inc would have won -- and pc would come with schematics and signal chart.
phf: mircea_popescu: within expected operational parameters
a111: Logged on 2017-03-20 20:46 mircea_popescu: in other lulz, the state of casual gaming is completely fucked up. so other than utter throwaways, stuff that looks like someone's undegrad project, the ~entire market of ipad-likes (stuff that works in the browser, or else via a "light" client for windows/mac, or else as a ipad/android etc app) is wholly like this :
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what i meant is -- i buy comp hardware secondhand, almost always
phf: mircea_popescu: i think nature of bootstrapping problem is that you have to choose a bedrock that you can affect, and that bedrock falls under counterparty problem. if your bedrock is hardware, then it's foundries that you trust. if your bedrock is a "a unix" then you need to trust a large binary blob. yes you can construct a rube goldberg that gives you unix from bedrock without having trust, but we don't have anything like that
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: alternative is to buy shitbox built by chinese for argentina, where power cord comes out of bottom ? and gentoo won't boot
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i already do this.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the availability of general-purpose comp was ~pure accident. and quite temporary. just like, say, lathes used to be ubiquitous back when auto repair needed one.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the notion that computers are mass market items are ridiculous. no, rakim didn't want one in 1977 either.
phf: mircea_popescu: tcc doesn't run on bare metal though
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: tcc exists.
phf: mircea_popescu: yes, the "you don't actually need a machine, just gcc and userland"
derpshart: mircea_popescu interesting analogy
a111: Logged on 2013-07-08 13:30 mircea_popescu: just like i showed the SDRs as the exact equivalent, and people ignored it because well... they never had one so it don't exist.
asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu has it, 'house without architect' looks like brazil.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the history of linux is not like the history of a respectable item. it's like "the history of the human biofilm on the floors of grand central station, 1817-2017".
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: nobody after the age of 'spam cdrom', where, e.g., rathead 5 HAD TO fit on 5 disks 'or what, user will use his dial-up to load the rest?\
phf: ben_vulpes: what they end up vendoring is binary package artifacts from the port builds
danielpbarron: it's not enough to just put an IP of my choosing in /etc/portage/make.conf under GENTOO_MIRRORS="" ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had what looked like an ordinary x86.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: exotic bigendian thing, neh
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: pete_dushenski was bitching about a box not eating cdrom recently
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a fairly obvious extension of 'rotor'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was thinking of much more modest item -- replacement of ' asciilifeform's gentoo ' with something replicable on demand, for eternity (vtronic repo, vtronic 'portage')
asciilifeform: phf, ben_vulpes , shinohai , trinque , anybody ever saw a box like this ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc you somehow, somewhere got a box where it wouldn't even boot the install disk
asciilifeform: at one point i answered mircea_popescu's 'you could not replicate your workstation' challenge with the gentoo cure. but that will only work 'while supplies last', i'm not even certain when the last time was that anyone tested it