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asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: also from getting a foreign alphabet welded to it , kazah-style, and the users lacking the spark of life to fucking fix it
asciilifeform: i was gonna share a crackpot model of the item but mp_en_viaje already hinted that he has same 1
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-29 02:20:46 mp_en_viaje: speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2014-12-02#940849 ; possibly the best compressed illustration of "why ancient, what's wrong with modern" could be had reviewing the phonetis of hoi polloi. so : it was [hoi polloi] in the ancient world, with gemminated l and everyting else good right and proper. it's... well, it's [i poˈli] these days, because "do we stil
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-29 02:21:18 mp_en_viaje: modern greek "no longer needs" the glottal stop h, nor does it use double-l's for anything, it's "progressed past that, see". sounds like lazy dogs talking, also, but that's ok -- everyone's a dog anyway rite ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-29 02:03:59 mp_en_viaje: ; also hey asciilifeform : http://archive.is/ipDDz
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-29#1938845 << ty mp_en_viaje , found culprit: a built-in idjicy in the pythonism that asciilifeform used to implement doublequotes. i'ma have to rewrite that mechanism.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-04-03 15:41:03 mp_en_viaje: but anyway, what the fuck is wrong with picking the prestige coffee house of the town for your bitcoin meet ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-27 11:43:20 mircea_popescu: i specificalty recall describing this situation in munchen whereby i took cab driver all over bars, trying to find some with decent seating, didn't find any, at end dude was like "well, there's no more left on the list, you have to sit here" and i was like "bitch, i dun have to anything"
mp_en_viaje: what they do, "complex" and "inexplicable" as they might like to pretend it, nevertheless can be very well predicted on a decerebrated read of the medieval catholics. basically calvin was the original hollywood, writting really stupid yet simple stories for a certain kind of [http://trilema.com/2019/fracture/#footnote_1_
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: The outside outlets that ought to be hammering this story are all incredibly silent in English.
mp_en_viaje: speaking of http://btcbase.org/log/2014-12-02#940849 ; possibly the best compressed illustration of "why ancient, what's wrong with modern" could be had reviewing the phonetis of hoi polloi. so : it was [hoi polloi] in the ancient world, with gemminated l and everyting else good right and proper. it's... well, it's [i poˈli] these days, because "do we still have to DO th ☝︎
snsabot: Logged on 2018-08-26 11:09:26 mircea_popescu: finally! let's make the links : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-13#1643192 <-> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-16#1644834 <-> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-05#1666048 (note how correct figure was ~40k not 50k, but w/e, rounding).
snsabot: (ossasepia) 2019-09-27 asciilifeform: maxim_mivo: it will have rack ears welded to it, if the hoster does not offer shelf
snsabot: mp_en_viaje last seen here on 2019-09-27 20:30:52: anyways, ima be back tomorro.
asciilifeform: !q seen mp_en_viaje
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-27 19:34:55 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938397 << here's the problem : these are all paper fortunes. paper fortunes are protected by naught besides the owner's willingness to endure hunger. argentina's future is so dim and its prospects so hopeless, there's ~0 incentive for argentine to liquidate rather than starve.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-27 17:52:50 mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, very nice work ; but this seems untenable on the face. i mean, even the san francisco "premium" bezzleworld's been losing 2-3-5% a year, each year, since 2015 or so. and 2s and 3s ealirer, 5s and above these days, 2019 may well close more like 7%
asciilifeform: at any rate insect moar relies on 'horizontal' ('there's many wasps') 'rng', than 'vertical' ('if rnd()<0.99 then check_nest()' etc) rng.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: poor model, transistor, it's ~nuffin BUT rng when 'out of the box'
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i recall the spiders. wasn't necessarily a sphex tho, there are other wasps that 'smarter' and will throw exception and stop looking for the caterpillar
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 21:52:01 mircea_popescu: for this reason any imanentization (ie, mapping of concepts into reality) will revolve around a "paradigm" / wilful blindness of some kind. "how could i not think of that" is always lulzy -- if you thought of everything your head would explode. and that's a literalism : if you somehow fit all states of its own emptiness into a glass it'd go boom.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: 'imagined choice' can drive the imaginer into walls, but is unclear to me that the walls move, or even get dirty as result
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: this is a+++ model of 'america great again'(tm)(r) lulzcows aha
asciilifeform suspects that mp_en_viaje is right re 'fixed %' tho. but to run w/ the analogy, the radon does stay in the ground until you dig to the bedrock, so will in effect vary
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: seems to me that typical 'peasant delusion' is ~opposite~ , 'choice wat choice, i only know how to turnip'
asciilifeform: but i think i see what mp_en_viaje meant
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: again this only in re ru planet, but there was measurable 'leakage' from 'pleb' to 'highwayman' , proportionate to how screamingly retarded was the crown at given time
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: similarly to alabama, i.e. not far. cuz it wasn't as if they escaped on motorcycles , ha
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: observation aint re 'ohnoez serfdom wicked' but re 'total cost of operation'(tm)
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: iirc in most of west europes, serfs not sellable..?
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: plox to expand re the plague if got time
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform took ride in coupla dozen 'ubers' etc , talked to the wheel-turners , found that most of'em have day jobs in bureaucracy somewhere, it's an after-hrs gig
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it's 'furniture-fueled furnace capitalism' -- offloads cost of purchase (and they want the driver to buy it, ideally, via their credit service) & maintenance of the auto , on the driver , removes ~all 'fat margin' so price wildly fluctuates
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: it varies by factor of 2+x! depending on 'pressure'
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: dunno re orcistans, but over here they ask you to type the addr into a pnojetron and then blindly go where it points.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: fwiw over here in north reich , they're ~solidly india/paki
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: pretty neat, always wanted to see a mp_en_viaje reportage of iran & co
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: atm ""ism only prevents partial matches inside words.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: properly making it go will require opening b00k re pgism
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-26 19:09:00 mircea_popescu: will be going later, but advanced reports look pretty wow.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: aa, word boundarism dunwork yet
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: The Kommunalka Uruguaya in the form of Pensiones are targeted strictly to single people. Very similar to Ye Olde Boarding house without the actual provision of board.
asciilifeform: for thread-completeness, let's put mp_en_viaje's test here ( #a-test is a garbage chan and aint logged )
asciilifeform: ty for test mp_en_viaje . there's also a raw-all knob (to make syncs easier) , contains all logged material from all enabled chans.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-06 13:11:29 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we weren't even in hruscheba, but in the 19th-c-converted-to-kommunalka . still 100% square walls.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: can i persuade you to pop into #asciilifeform-test for 5min ? ( to see format of crosspost-indication-enabled bot that i'ma be rotating in tonight )
asciilifeform: wb mp_en_viaje !
deedbot: diana_coman rated maxim_mivo 2 << says he's CEO of MivoCloud, my ISP in Chisinau where Ossabot resides.
diana_coman: !!key maxim_mivo
asciilifeform: diana_coman: which, observe, bans the infested udev among other associated fungi.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: he appears to know about asciilifeform's orig. fumigated gentoo .
asciilifeform: diana_coman: are you sewing a gentoo ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: depending on what's happened in last 2y since i last snapshotted gentoo, it ~could~ have spores in it
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it's this.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: in recent years, asciilifeform's experience was 'trb-grade box is ~100 $ / mo just about anywhere' , so consistent with this.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: do you recall what cost ssd ?
asciilifeform has habit similar to mircea_popescu's of commenting prior to fully eating $text
asciilifeform: diana_coman: outta curiosity, were the btc receiver addrs they genned, trb-compat ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: neato
asciilifeform: diana_coman: sounds notbad for a heathen shop, except for the last part. perhaps if you write to the fella and describe wot, he'll get in.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-13 13:02:11 mircea_popescu: anyway : i'm willing to bet migration ~will~ be trivial ; and i am very curious to find out why not if indeed not
spyked: initial investigation shows that that indeed shouldn't be too painful, probably along the lines of wp_insert_post for each post. will still take some manual labour to verify that posts display well, but that's not burning, so I can do it as I go along with other work.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 13:19:48 diana_coman: mircea_popescu: once the new voice model comes in, is the L1 redefined accordingly too? iirc there are some priviledges such as "can use feedbot & deedbot only if in L1", right? spyked or trinque might correct me here.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 07:30:11 mircea_popescu: !!deed http://paste.deedbot.org/?id=YaNz
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-26 11:50:37 mircea_popescu: think abougt it, isn't a priori post something you'd want ? :D
billymg: mircea_popescu: http://billymg.com/2019/09/additional-tests-for-mp-wp-now-according-to-spec/comment-page-1/#comment-50
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 13:54:45 mircea_popescu: diana_coman, well, i dunno about redefined. rated 9 here aka l1
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, well, i dunno about redefined. rated 9 here aka l1
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, was linked from his own article, i dunno
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: once the new voice model comes in, is the L1 redefined accordingly too? iirc there are some priviledges such as "can use feedbot & deedbot only if in L1", right? spyked or trinque might correct me here.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-20 12:05:15 diana_coman: hanbot: you have broken trilema links on your blog as they still use polimedia.us eg those in http://thewhet.net/2012/11/shall-be-delivered/
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: he has http://thimbron.com/ for some reason; /me will catch up with the logs now
ericbot: Logged on 2019-09-26 07:31:58 mircea_popescu: and why the fuck flatfile intermediary anywya, what is this, medieval clockwork ?! what's it needed for ?!
mircea_popescu: diana_coman, http://www.thimbronion.com/ dun resolve fwiw
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ever look into the history of that liquishit ? i.e. ibm's 'sgml' ? no mega-surprise that the end product is what it is
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 05:31:35 diana_coman: (and them mircea_popescu will write a mandatory-reading thread of more than 500 lines and my log-selection via log-raw will fail).
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938217 << diana_coman y'know you can set that '500' to whatever, it's in config
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall from what they were pre-written. ocean of regexp.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this dunwork with coad displayers, so not useful to asciilifeform
asciilifeform: seems as if this oughta be doable on back end via combination of mircea_popescu's 1para and tableistic multipara
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understand, mircea_popescu's current selector worx a++ to select text in 1 para where no line breaks, and does not put in any spurious. but if you want to select multiple para, wai not put the table turd where there are already line breaks ? oughta be visually indistinguishable , neh ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i fully buy that there prolly aint a way to do it cleanly with ~1~ added tag.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 08:29:31 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1938084 << imo this sounds like a good idea in theory, but is not a good idea in practice. the reason for the difference is that the links as we use them now are ~fixed length~ AND ~fixed format~, something the quotes can never be. they are BETTEr like this than like that because the fix-* is the more important attirbute in thsi context.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 08:12:38 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-25#1938065 << sadly this is a html breakage. the options are delineated in article : either use span and not cross paras, or else use div and end up with an extra newline.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: anyone who wants can run the current logger and declare 'i aint syncing, mine writes to antifuse rom' etc. very easy to turn syncing into nonsyncing logger, just dun sync. but i think i get how and for what mircea_popescu's is supposed to work
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 04:44:35 mircea_popescu: ie, if "selection doesn't work for me" "why not ?" "because what i want to select recurs", give some thought whether indeed "selection is broken and should be fixed". WHY do you want to select something THAT RECURS, and recurs so much it actually doesn't allow you to extend the context slightly, one character at a time, resolving your problem ?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 05:30:53 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log-raw/trilema?istart=1938185&iend=1938213 - look at this, log-selection via log-raw, ha.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938216 << diana_coman: current reader.py has multiline selects, e.g. http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26?ss=1938185&se=1938213#1938185
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 08:42:44 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938136 << this is quite the idea. i have no expectation trilema log and whoever else's such log be machine-identical.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-26#1938261 << this appears to be the key : if mircea_popescu's item aint intended to be a syncable logger, then naturally it dun need to giveashit re dates problem etc.
asciilifeform eats mircea_popescu's output, may take a bit
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 08:23:25 mircea_popescu: so check this out trinque i changed my mind! http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-21#1937508 << rating < 1, actually.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-26 00:54:44 asciilifeform: it's possible that mircea_popescu intends his item to be standalone, rather than pilot plant for all 'canonical' loggers. then dun matter so much whether calendar etc.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 23:49:18 lobbes: in the mircea_popescuine logger, though, all links will use the server-side-selectory-style. By definition those links will never agree with the traditional loggers since the latter can't span arbitrary lines / text
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 22:38:25 asciilifeform: the other thing, the adhoc traditional line select is human-friendly, very fast to grab a line url, whereas mircea_popescu-style selector less so, gotta find unique start/end text, when citing from trilema it usually takes asciilifeform 2-3 shots to nail down the correct snip
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-25 22:26:36 asciilifeform: in related grrs, asciilifeform recently attempted backport of mircea_popescu's selector knob to own wp, but broke teeth cuz it dun know how to cross paragraphs, and i have '9000' multi-para selections, esp. in ffa series where coad
spyked: diana_coman, from what I can see, raw-log display also fixes the "when to cross page boundary" problem, heh. e.g. http://logs.ossasepia.com/log-raw/trilema?istart=1938114&iend=1938120 displays fine
diana_coman: (and them mircea_popescu will write a mandatory-reading thread of more than 500 lines and my log-selection via log-raw will fail).
diana_coman: morning mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: o hai diana_coman