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Mocky: i didn't smoke any of what i bought
Mocky: I probably spent what i didn't realize would be a fortune of btc on pot. but i at least learned an important lesson.
mircea_popescu: but i mean... the ~only utility of even buying pot is getting to know the dealer.
mircea_popescu: though when it comes to b), i suppose i should admit the girls keep getting offered roaches and tokes alllll the time. whole crowd whose only mode of socialisation seems to be, sharing mate uh i mean, pot-e.
mircea_popescu: you know, the total btc value i spent on pot the past decade is 0.00. because a) who the fuck buys pot for internet funbux, just... why! and b).
asciilifeform: ( recall similar generation of amoeba who 'then i realized mmm was SCAM!' ? )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-20#1827714 << roflmao what fucking thrills these guys got. i am starting to suspect i missed out. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-20#1827698 << lmao i somehow missed this. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i wonder what percentage of the old world jews actuallty went to the lime pit while managing imaginary financial empires the whole time.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 16:08 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828005 << the closest we got to a replacement i believe was asciilifeform's shiva, i.e. a tinyscheme embedded into trb runtime. it was suggested as a useful exercise for novices to attempt to expose existing, useful rpc function using it, but there were no takers. at some point the idea of using shiva in prod also went away, because tinyscheme is not necessarily production ready (primarily because of C-ism issues). as
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and trinque isn't issuing them their 3bs. i suppose next step in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-20#1827722 security circus luls is "can't send bitcoin to proper bitcoin address, ITS INSECURE!!!" bullshit. ☝︎
trinque: when I've grunted out the cuntoo thing, next item in the pipeline is the hot wallet
Mocky: ok well, thanks. hopefully that doesn't curse me. but also i "have" "bitcoin" in various dark markets that i want to actually own and I don't trust them to send accurate decimal to trinque's walletron ☟︎
mircea_popescu: (i hope we all now admire the wisdom of trinque, for having closed this hole for me lo these many years ago.)
mircea_popescu: yo Mocky , do the botting bs. i was going to tell you when to v it, and everything. not like you're alone here you know.
mircea_popescu: i personally know a slut that lost the ability of being beaten for fun, through the mediation of her ducati and so many knee and hip surgeries she's immune to playpain.
Mocky: i a car the road can be full, on a bike you can still fit in there
mircea_popescu: i almost never do!
Mocky: mircea_popescu, wooshing across 4 lanes in sub second is my kind of fun, I do this ~daily on motorcycle
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform are you kidding me ? i found out later from workers we were the only ones to cross there.
asciilifeform: i'm not really surprised that bananistan has flooding ramps. oxcarts dun particularly care about water.
mircea_popescu: probably ; but honestly i very much like this thing's turn. it specifically does 1-lane-over turning. very evidently was designed specifically for it.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 14:07 Mocky: I'm confused about trb rpc. Log search suggests for the first year+ of bitcoin foundation rpc was marked for death: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-02-28#1417175 but then there's dump / eat block based on rpc? Is this a new version of rpc, I don't see a new version announced on the mailing list. Can someone sum this up for me, I'm having trouble following the history.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828005 << the closest we got to a replacement i believe was asciilifeform's shiva, i.e. a tinyscheme embedded into trb runtime. it was suggested as a useful exercise for novices to attempt to expose existing, useful rpc function using it, but there were no takers. at some point the idea of using shiva in prod also went away, because tinyscheme is not necessarily production ready (primarily because of C-ism issues). as ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, point being, as girl was dialing the miracle worker for me, i was saying to her, "tomorrow you call the lawyer, apparently he's getting me new plates."
mircea_popescu: so i called teh empleado, sent him to fish my plate somehow, an hour later, when i finally noticed coming out of whorehouse.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 12:45 asciilifeform: of the mentioned libs, zlib is known to me to work under musltronic build; libmysqlclient i had not occasion to test
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 12:37 asciilifeform: i solved this same problem for trb -- i.e. building 100% musltronic proggy with '9000' deps , on a conventional box
Mocky: asciilifeform, yes. I'm still wrapping my head around v. My understanding is attaching name and trust to every patch with an explicit dependence tree and build order. But I've not grasped the details yet, or used except to build trb, or understood the src
asciilifeform: Mocky: trb , roughly speaking , is a legacy item, in the same way as the icbm targeting comp and similar. i.e. a museum piece that gotta be kept in working order, rather than 'sexy, new' thing bubbling with development
asciilifeform: Mocky: i.e. http://btcbase.org/patches/makefiles/tree/bitcoin/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp
trinque: to particular hardware architectures, particular justwantedto variations like use of systemd or nsa.selinux, so on. the profile dir is about 20mb, so serious yak shaving needs to occur there. it's a task I've already done elsewhere (produced a minimal profile for an embedded system for printers recently), just needs to be done here.
trinque: let me know if you're interested in the script, and I'll be happy to upload. otherwise I'll hold off until done with the genesis.vpatch. what remains there is trimming the fat. the pile of ebuilds necessary to build a minimal userland is approx 4mb, though I can probably shave several mb of alternate versions of same ebuilds. then there's the profile directory, which contains environment settings pertinent
trinque: so if I were to upload the current version of the script for you, it would produce a system which is classical gentoo, my recipe, plus the musl and libressl overlays. this'd be what you'd get if you were hand-spinning own musl/libressl system.
trinque: diana_coman: I have updated the script you last tried, such that it again works. What I have not completed is the v-tree which is to replace imperial portage. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
Mocky: I'm confused about trb rpc. Log search suggests for the first year+ of bitcoin foundation rpc was marked for death: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-02-28#1417175 but then there's dump / eat block based on rpc? Is this a new version of rpc, I don't see a new version announced on the mailing list. Can someone sum this up for me, I'm having trouble following the history. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: generally speaking unless one or moar of your deps is weird in the 'emacs' way (i.e. does something obscene with glibc-specific pheatures) it's a straight mechanical job, like rotor.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had asked asciilifeform not to meddle in euolorological matters, so i'ma stop here, unless all of you somehow get stuck and he asks for specific puzzler to be sent to my operating table.
diana_coman: trinque, can you help re ^ ? (in short: need musltronic system, what can I do)
asciilifeform: of the mentioned libs, zlib is known to me to work under musltronic build; libmysqlclient i had not occasion to test ☟︎
asciilifeform: i solved this same problem for trb -- i.e. building 100% musltronic proggy with '9000' deps , on a conventional box ☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: hence why i said 'rotor buildroot env'
diana_coman: I see; in that case it would seem cuntoo is needed then indeed
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 08:34 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-20#1827895 <- my (possibly naive) idea was to try first on conventional gentoo by recompiling with musltronic gcc what I need; asciilifeform perhaps knows upfront: would it work to (re-)emerge libs such as zlib and libmysqlclient using the musltronic-gcc?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1827977 << 're-emerge' seems to imply systemwide ? you're more or less guaranteed a borked box, muslism has to be done either rotor-style (i.e. 100% user-local build of 1 proggy at a time) or systemwide ( trinque's cuntoo ), on account of the impossibility of cleanly linking glibc libs to musl proggy or vice versa ☝︎☟︎
diana_coman: I should add in case it's not clear that part of the reason for trying to do it starting from a conventional gentoo is that it gives a recipe to apply afterwards (if it works, obv) to current server too
a111: Logged on 2018-06-20 20:33 ben_vulpes: diana_coman: why does it need to be wholly separate machine? i think something might have flown over my head
diana_coman: esp libmysqlclient is potentially iffy because it has dependencies that go deeper but atm I don't know until I try it; unless someone else tried similar /knows better?
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-20#1827895 <- my (possibly naive) idea was to try first on conventional gentoo by recompiling with musltronic gcc what I need; asciilifeform perhaps knows upfront: would it work to (re-)emerge libs such as zlib and libmysqlclient using the musltronic-gcc? ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 01:22 phf: typically hashtables stay stable over invocations of same code, i wonder where randomness is even coming from
asciilifeform: ( fwiw i have copy of the films , from decade+ ago , on cd )
asciilifeform: esthlos: i had nfi these were ever hosted on lolcattube to begin with
phf: asciilifeform: yeah, but of some significant vintage, i think it's either 21 or 22. i doubt 26 works, and i feel like i've seen "msdos no longer supported" changelog entries
asciilifeform: phf: i thought you had a working dos emacs..?
phf: emacs still has msdos folder in tree, all the way to 26. i wonder if that still compiles, or the folder is a lie
asciilifeform: gnat also ( tho i confess, never tried )
asciilifeform: i can picture.
asciilifeform: btw phf i nominate you as the hero who will produce msdos gnat.
phf: typically hashtables stay stable over invocations of same code, i wonder where randomness is even coming from ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i'll need until late-july to kit out the bays
a111: Logged on 2018-06-20 16:46 mircea_popescu: which brings us to : ben_vulpes would pizarro be amenable to bring up the spare sometime so she makes it a full gnat musl thing, test whether we can move everything there, and either move it (so basically, moving servers) or else backing down (so basically i guess either renting both for a while or powerting back down the spare) ?
asciilifeform: i meant freeman
mircea_popescu: if he gets thrown in jail by the exact fucktards he lied and stole for, i might even go visit, to point and laugh.
mircea_popescu: i'm guessing this continues once she wakes.
asciilifeform: right, ave1 produced a working self-builder gnat. nobody's bolted it into a gentoo in such a way that ~everything~ gets built with it, of yet. ( this as i understand is in the cuntoo conveyor )
ben_vulpes: diana_coman: why does it need to be wholly separate machine? i think something might have flown over my head ☟︎☟︎
mod6: Again, less complete emergency. Let's see if we can source whatever parts are needed at 'ye ole iron shop', or other method, before I think about dropping everything.
mod6: <+diana_coman> asciilifeform, BingoBoingo it is NOT asap, no; take your time, no hurry << barring a straight out emergency, I can't get away at the moment. About a month ago, I was trying to plan a trip around end of July; but now, that's locked out.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-20 17:59 asciilifeform: i'ma ask that anyffing sent to asciilifeform for transport, be either marked (if sent from human hands) or serial # gpggrammed to asciilifeform , so he can mark it.
asciilifeform: i.e. ~1500 to buy, transport, ransom, 5 units.
asciilifeform: i just now tried the quote , it's a linear equation
asciilifeform: i.e. any # of ssd can be in BingoBoingo's hands in about 6 wks, via this 'worst' method.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-20 17:04 mircea_popescu: none of this is an emergency, still some issues to fix as i said.
asciilifeform: i'ma ask that anyffing sent to asciilifeform for transport, be either marked (if sent from human hands) or serial # gpggrammed to asciilifeform , so he can mark it. ☟︎
trinque: I have the 1tb 860 evo
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I sent a signed and encrypted cabinet inventory report, can repaste
ave1: I.E. I could reprocude this error by first compiling aarch64 with ../extra/build-tarballs.sh $PREFIX musl ada aarch64 and then running the script with making that line: ../extra/build-tarballs.sh $PREFIX musl ada x86_64
BingoBoingo: I can pull the chassis out of the cabinet and see if they drives are hiding in there somewhere other than the drive bays.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I looked at the iron on my way back to the terminal after Uruguay's disappointing 1-0 victory
ave1: asciilifeform, I did get it to cross compile on aarch64 too, it was a question of more memory. Do you still have an error log? Also the order has to be correct in the build-ada.sh. Like so: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-04#1820499 ☝︎
asciilifeform: what i'd like to end up with, is to make ave1's gnat the default gcc in my gentoos ( and , in time, in cuntoo )
diana_coman: right; I can confirm I tried that on my rockchip too with same results as you had already reported
asciilifeform: i tested his latest builder on x64 and arm64, both perform like champs.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, aha, that's pretty much the recipe I'll try to follow
asciilifeform: i do not presently have a cuntoo box
diana_coman: so there is a chance it'll work; if not, at least I'll know what part is even more idiotic than the rest
asciilifeform: just about errything that doesn't abuse some glibc-specific knob, runs 100% under muslism ( e.g. trb, which was the first proggy i personally built for musl, back in the http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000133.html days )
diana_coman: I guess I'll find out by trying it at any rate
a111: Logged on 2018-06-19 18:08 phf: asciilifeform: well, it's been ported, but i've no idea how, last time i looked at it was pre-rework and i couldn't figure it out. trinque just said that the musl version of emacs he has is 24.5, so presumably that works
diana_coman: or do you mean I have to have cuntoo to be able to try this?
diana_coman: i.e. on a musl system I can rebuild everything or not?
asciilifeform: ( there may be a pill to work around this, but i do not currently know it )
mircea_popescu: none of this is an emergency, still some issues to fix as i said. ☟︎
diana_coman: and I'm not that keen on testing on yet another arch basically
asciilifeform: i delivered also its raid card, it is currently in its crate, in the bilge.
mircea_popescu: which brings us to : ben_vulpes would pizarro be amenable to bring up the spare sometime so she makes it a full gnat musl thing, test whether we can move everything there, and either move it (so basically, moving servers) or else backing down (so basically i guess either renting both for a while or powerting back down the spare) ? ☟︎
FundsAreSafuh: I guess nostalgia brought me back, and the realization that things are never going to be the same. I'm just a former MPOE holder come back to join the ol' gang
asciilifeform: gotta admit, FundsAreSafuh , i'm quite curious re what you are hoping to find here.
FundsAreSafuh: I made a small fortune trading Friedcat's ASICMINER shares on GLBSE, before Nefario disappeared. Now I'm a crypto nomad spending time between NYC and the Republic of Panama
asciilifeform: e.g. 'i am a chimney sweep from calcutta, and i break nsa block ciphers in spare time' , format.