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mircea_popescu: this is
the wasp pretense.
to my eyes a direct equivalent
to nixon's delusioned in place "silent electorate". i don't
think it ever held any water.
PeterL: there are several ways power can be lost, so party officials at least have
to give
the appearance of being reasonable
to hold
thier power
mircea_popescu: i don't recall
the specifics
there, but wasn't it
the case
that leader of gop house sold out
to obama, and for cheap,
the gop
trioed
to
throw him out, and failed, guy came back even
to ensure his chosen successor stays ?
PeterL: like how boenher was doing
things
to force his will on
the House of Reps, and a small subset of republicans forced him out of power
mircea_popescu: even if
they did have such incredible intellects, it'd still
take
time, and
the public is a wage slave, which means
that no, not
the fucking public.
mircea_popescu: no fucking individual member of
the public has even 1% of
the intellectual werewithal
to even consider
the matter in
the sense of putting all its disparate elements on
the
table ; let alone drive a sane conclusion from
the mess.
PeterL: well, publick sees party making absurd choices
to shoehorn in particular candidate, reform-minded individuals
take over party or else
they just lose general elections
to other party
mircea_popescu: PeterL explain
this
to me. kicked out of power by whom and with whose army ?
PeterL: and if
they go
too far out
their
then
they lose creditability and get kicked out of power
mircea_popescu: PeterL
this assumption is known as
the memory hole effect.
PeterL: yeah,
the people making
these rules can do whatever
they want, but I assume
there are some reasonable people mixed in with
the crazies who would stop such
things
mircea_popescu: phf no idea what opposition would be. lemme dig up
the comment i guess.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno
they were questionable, he said i dun recall what on
trilema, i asked him quo warranto, he made himself scarce.
mircea_popescu: PeterL obviously not set in stone. it could be changed so
that your name can't start with d, also, it would seem ?
phf: guy come strutting after his opponent leaves and starts
talking
tough? i don't know him, but
that just spells loser
☟︎ PeterL: you don't like
thickAsThieves?
PeterL: and Americans like me who can't help ourselves eat
this shit up and it earns
them ad revenue from all
the obnoxious ads on
their websites
PeterL: basically it is just another reason for a bunch of reporters
to write blathering articles about
the drama of
the republican nomination race
BingoBoingo: I don't keep
track because of how many rules
typically change just
to smooth
things out. See
Thomson's "Fear and Loathing on
the Campaign
Trail"
PeterL: although,
this rule could be changed at
the start of
the convention, it is not set in stone
PeterL: so far, only
Trump has met
that
threshold, so even if he doesn't get a majority of delegates he could still win
PeterL: they made a rule saying
to get nominated you need a majority of delegates from 8 states
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> but why ? an' wherefore ? << It's how conventions worked routinely before 1970.
They got
the delegates and
then made
the rules. Now
they just change
the rules afterwards.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> well yeah, and what's
the free booze, bud and everclear ? << Everyclear is expensive even when adjusted for alcohol content.
The cheapest stuff goes by names like Crystal Palace, COuntry Club, and Gem Clear
PeterL: I don't see how
the specific rules helped
Trump
PeterL: the RNC changed
the rules
to make it so
they couldn't do
that
PeterL: in 2012 some Paul supporters
thought
they could co-opt
the convention and push him
through even
though he lost
the votes
mircea_popescu: "PaulFest in 2012: a week-long
thing in Florida leading up
to
the Republican National Convention in which last-minute rule changes
to keep Ron Paul out were hastily voted into place; rule changes which are
today responsible for
the
Trump phenomenon" << plox
to detail
this for me ?
mircea_popescu: ahahahaha what! danielpbarron scored
twins at porcfest ?
mircea_popescu: gotta get a log of
this place up soon, wtf are all
the stalkers gonna do.
mircea_popescu: you've not missed much. just me discovering
that
they do dry festivals now in puritanlandia
mircea_popescu: ftr if i click
the pic i get a "page not found". is
this intentional ?
mircea_popescu: i've like...
totally lost contact with
teh kids
today. I AM OLD NOW
mircea_popescu: so you're
telling me no porcfest slut was ever champagne-bathed in
the entire decade of
this ?
mircea_popescu: well yeah, and what's
the free booze, bud and everclear ?
danielpbarron: you can give away booze, and sell it on
the down-low like you would weed or any other illegal drug
danielpbarron: to get around
this,
the porcfest organizers sell VIP passes
that grant access
to a free booze
tent
mircea_popescu: why
the fuck would anyone over
the age of ~12 attend ?!
mircea_popescu: (i don't mean frothwater/selzer ; i mean
the genuine article)
PeterL: are you going
to start a new WoT or import
the one from assbot?
trinque: mircea_popescu: it's using a password with
that nick, strange
that it's not auth'd
PeterL: I suppose detail will go up on
trilema at some point?
PeterL: are you going
to use
the same voicing model as #bitcoin-assets?
PeterL: does
this chan have a log?
mircea_popescu: and so,
this is
the end for
this particular irc channel as a venue for
tmsr.
the irc festivities are moving over
to #trilema ; with a more selective lordship list and improved
tools all around. you're welcome
to join - but leave
the fiat mind behind, lest it drag you
too back down into
the swamp.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: vaguely defining
the group in question, ad-hoc or after
the fact, does not resolve
the problem, one's still a poltroon. appeals
to "science" or "law" or whatever other conveniently vague abstraction still doesn't resolve
the fact
that one's placed himself on
the hostis humani generis side of
the debate.
mircea_popescu: i can readily understand
that fiatism has been for all and sundry
the unique way of life, since "forever" ; i can see how
the shit is well ensconced and difficult
to wash off. nevertheless, loyalty
to a group, as opposed
to
the individual, is still socialism, as much so as either GOP or NSDAP ever were. preserve
that and you preserve it all.
mircea_popescu: there's absolutely no place in
the future, or among civilised people, for
this "hi i r zuckerberg and i ~created~ facebook"
thing. i can see how it continues
the "oh, mp is raining money, let me not get in his way"
thing from before, but consistency in poltroonism does not enact poltroonism as an acceptable life philosophy.
mircea_popescu: upon consideration, i see no reason
to continue supporting or otherwise encourage kakobrekla's bizarre worldview. on
the contrary, i view further involvement with
the nonsense as considerable moral hazard, and a miserable
thing
to do altogether.
☟︎☟︎☟︎ assbot: Probably
the hottest business idea of
the moment in BTC... on
Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... (
http://bit.ly/1MuIkIg )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I do not have parrots, but most days now I do have
titmice flutting about outside
mike_c: nice shot. where is
that?
mod6: asciilifeform:
thx for
the link swabby
BingoBoingo: jurov: Orange chainsaw chaps
tend
to be just as assless as leather motorcycle chaps.
BingoBoingo: Pin up isn't
total nudity
though. It's suggestive dress.
jurov: nudity + power
tools = uncomfortable feeling
BingoBoingo: hearing
this I am disappointed more is not made of
the innuendo possible from playing with
the idea of big
tools
jurov: so...anything beyond chainsaw is
too nerdy for bear pinups
jurov: lmao i saw even one proclaimed "a lumberjack" cuz of
the axe
BingoBoingo: I'm just kind of surprised
this sort of overtooling isn't a big
thing in bear pin up art.
jurov: my brain just repeatedly rejected
the notion of anyone using it
that way
jurov: BingoBoingo: actually having rigid drill ready in
the corner can be much more convenient and
timesaving compared
to affixing
tiny bits
to be drilled
to chairs, even if not used often.