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a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 22:35 ben_vulpes: hanbot: did you only cover debit cards in "state of the cards" and not gift cards because buying gift cards with btc is a terrible idea for some reason?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2018/wood-impregnated-in-oil-a-metaphor/#comment-126055
ben_vulpes: ("a-ads.com") ☟︎
ben_vulpes: same with the affiliate thing; 'a-ads'; i know mircea_popescu said that nobody uses anything but clickbank, but i can't pay 'em in btc and the amlkyc is thick over there as well; so, fifty bucks, see how bad the results can possibly be
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: buy a small one, see what happens ?
ben_vulpes: hanbot: did you only cover debit cards in "state of the cards" and not gift cards because buying gift cards with btc is a terrible idea for some reason? ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'The honours were created in 1917 by King George V during the First World War as a way of rewarding civilians and servicemen in support positions for their contribution to the war effort. Now they are used to recognise an achievement or service to the community in any area, such as the arts, charity or education. According to the Cabinet Office, an MBE is given for an "outstanding achievement or service to the community.'
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 16:33 mircea_popescu: rewatched http://trilema.com/2011/margin-call/ last nite ; hanbot was all "wtf is with these idiots, tax man takes 50% right off the top, and that's it ? no comment, not even a groan, not even 'how about you pay me the real amt you pay me rather than pretend double' zero ??"
mircea_popescu: this resulted in a 50k win by the "victim" and a 800k win in "court costs".
mircea_popescu: in ongoing lulz, "A v Hoare, [2008] UKHL 6 is a leading tort case in British law, decided by the House of Lords in 2008. The Lords held that the limitation period for actions founded on torts of negligence may be disapplied where it is inequitable to enforce it."
trinque: nbd, just went a-lookin
a111: Logged on 2017-11-12 23:07 spyked: in other news, I've been using most of my spare cycles lisping in ada. should be able to wrap up a blog post sharing a very minimal prototype (sane implem. of repl doing nothing but basic ops) in a few weeks. what I've got now adheres to most of ffa constraints. the current version isn't very clean, but getting there...
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 18:47 asciilifeform: trinque: naa wasn't a heathen link, was selfmade thing
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/wood-impregnated-in-oil-a-metaphor/ << Trilema - Wood impregnated in oil, a metaphor.
mod6: i'll even go one further... if the FG USB-TTL becomes a pressing issue, for some reason, I'll give ya mine from my rockchip.
diana_coman: if we can indeed just move it over on a wed downtime then yes, not needed for sure;
mod6: ok sounds like a plan then. thanks for being flexible here.
mircea_popescu: if indeed we just move it back to old one during a wed downtime, we need nothing.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, it's certainly fine for testing at this stage; presumably later if we get everything compiling fine and bring eucrypt in we might want to have both but it's not at all a requirement atm
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 a) why not just sell it to pizarro and b) it's really no rush, end of the month's fine. << thanks for the time horizon. we'll plan on getting the hot-spare racked and going for sure by end of June.
mircea_popescu: right. i dun see a problem.
mircea_popescu: no, the idea is, she stands up a working pile on the non-raid system, attempts to move it over, it don't boot, because raid.
mircea_popescu: a ok. anyway, don't stress out about it neh.
mod6: I've just been told that I don't even need to give S.MG a drive, or sell it one. Apparently I misunderstood and there already is a drive available for this environment. Just one, and that's alwasys been there iirc.
asciilifeform: mod6, mircea_popescu : it was my understanding that mircea_popescu & diana_coman wanted a test bed, and will eventually swap back to orig s.mg box; so not clear if the spare needs a full adult raid
mircea_popescu: mod6 a) why not just sell it to pizarro and b) it's really no rush, end of the month's fine. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: translates ok, as i currently see it , even to jp ( but asciilifeform would not yet undertake such a thing )
mircea_popescu: in other sads, article fucking untranslatable. "inchipuiti-va" is not romanian for "imagine", because that's imaginati-va. it's the vocative of the act of creating a form/face (chip) in your mind. which does not exist in english as such, unless you go to "mentally iconify" or somesuch barbarism.
spyked: I managed to make the thing run without a heap, I think the problem's more in my understanding of Lisp's evaluation model.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 12:19 spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-14#1737923 <-- also, spyked's adalisp is missing more fundamental things, such as closures. it's an early prototype, barely usable, but > 0. interning is of course considered, but not added yet. anyway, phf, consider the following point: built-in symbols (car, cons, etc.) still have to point *somewhere*, and that somewhere must not be addressed in a C-machine style! symbols should point to Lisp memory (via
asciilifeform: trinque: naa wasn't a heathen link, was selfmade thing ☟︎
a111: 2018-06-18 <spyked> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-15#1825614 <-- I wonder if dood is still tuned in (maybe read-only? I know I was for more than a coupla years). kinda enjoyed the conversations back in the day.
asciilifeform: btw didn't somebody grind out a draft of a foaetal ada scheme ? was digging in log, not found so far
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no but this is my point. "why are you using emacs when in fact trb will need ada scheme anyway and then you could just have a musl-gnat nerwmacs" ?
asciilifeform: e.g., leaks like a sieve.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: elisp is a roughly microshit-quality product.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 16:29 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828076 << phf in retrospect tinyscheme plugin was an ill-conceived thing. such item really calls for a troo adatronic scheme thing.
asciilifeform: ( tbf, not limited to open sores, e.g. microshit world is just such a katamari )
mircea_popescu: Mocky it's not much, superficially, but it has a lot of downstream. because this is the ~fundamental~ rot of "foss" : that impotent dweebs latch on to it not because of the lofty theoretical goals, but strictly because of the very direct if unspoken power equation, "if i be friends with these guys then girls will be forced ot insert my penis in their vagina by themselves". ☟︎
trinque: recently did work experimenting with "just add water" kernels where the initramfs is (relatively) huge, but there is in fact a magic number limiting the size of in-built initramfs, dun recall what, but hit it in the few 100s of mb range
trinque: I build initramfsen by aiming portage at a custom PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT and ROOT, using a threadbare portage profile, can thereby slam down ebuilds in a chroot without having the whole of portage present in the chroot
asciilifeform: modules make sense to have on a box where you're developing custom iron, and driver is fiddled with actively, and that's about it
trinque: place to mount say a squashfs as root, with overlay for ephemeral writes
trinque: (there will be a tool for initramfs-ism forthcoming, but there are very few situations where you actually need one)
trinque: however, if you're using genkernel, the script doesn't invoke that for you. it expects to be fed a kernel config bare
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 17:35 mircea_popescu: for a simple example, the default state is, "userbase rejects your merge" rather than "everyone please upgrade". that should give a decent idea of the flavour.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 17:28 diana_coman: trinque, if I understand it correctly, I could have a cuntoo right now and move later on to v-tree but a. there is some work to be done to configure it properly for the exact pizarro hardware b. it's unclear whether I'll be able to emerge (i.e. build musltronically) all the stuff I need ; correct?
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828275 << right. either now or later, you'll have to produce a kernel config suitable for your hardware, and provide that to the build script. and yes, there is the potential that somebody else hasn't yet provided musl patches for your dependencies, though there are more all the time. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: for a simple example, the default state is, "userbase rejects your merge" rather than "everyone please upgrade". that should give a decent idea of the flavour. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828045 << rejects the github implementation of merge, would have been the correct statement. yes you can alter code, but through a very different process, in places exactly opposite. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-19 20:52 mircea_popescu: it's not "oh, errybody has a rotten plank or two keeping'em afloat." it's "oh, everybody ~can manifest matter by will~, currently everybody hanging off the bare minimum rotten plank and they're not even COMPARED".
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 15:33 asciilifeform: Mocky: to function as a troo vtronicist, gotta grasp the concept, described by e.g. dijkstra, that a line of code you have written is not an asset, but an expense. (specifically, an expense against the time budget of other thinking people, who must read and grasp what you have written. )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828036 << this is a major point ; and goes directly to the bifurcation between http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-19#1827317 and http://trilema.com/2009/inchipuiti-va/ (original piece describing a world where things exist by power of mind and how it'd play out). ☝︎☝︎
diana_coman: trinque, if I understand it correctly, I could have a cuntoo right now and move later on to v-tree but a. there is some work to be done to configure it properly for the exact pizarro hardware b. it's unclear whether I'll be able to emerge (i.e. build musltronically) all the stuff I need ; correct? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: as far as the crop of baaaas is concerned, 1800s america was a different country in a different land.
asciilifeform: i've yet to meet in the flesh a zek who actually thinks he's touched real money.
mircea_popescu: a box of loot.
asciilifeform: wat's a lootbox?
mircea_popescu: wait, there was also a voat, is this that ?
trinque: some derp put a frog on a twitter clone and that was that.
mircea_popescu: certainly. as the gears grind to a halt, more and more of the imperial gdp is leaked to distracting the barbarians.
asciilifeform: really whole root of 'guiism' is to give the monkey a harmless object to manipulate, like hamster is given wheel
mircea_popescu: hysterically enough, this is actually a line by felini. in zampano literally says, "it's the optic nerve that does all the work"
mircea_popescu: so visual, in fact, that unless there's a gui with icons to cluck at, they don't have ~the subjective impression~ of having thought.
asciilifeform: y'know, sorta how there wasn't actually a 'communist underground' in the last reich, just that luxembourg chix who got guillotined with buncha other derps
asciilifeform: ( considering that there isn't actually such a thing as 'new right', but in reality buncha folx who read r-reddit in place of l-reddit )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: doubt that it's so specific; afaik they see it as simply a large underground bag into which they've driven errything with even half a ball remaining, 'could do anyffing!1'
mircea_popescu: and the case'd absolutely have been another chickening out, in my respected and respectable professional oppinion as the only left psychologist speaking this language, had not a very george zimmerman-like character (white male redditor-rentacop) jiggled at his door with his pretense to matter.
mircea_popescu: depressives are rarely effectual specifically because often a goal requires some preparations.
asciilifeform: not clear why he didn't simply do a proper auto mod. 'hang for sheep as well as lamb'
asciilifeform: iirc was moar of a sprayer than aimer type
mircea_popescu: it's a terrible bit of chinesium, too.
asciilifeform: recently it was invoked , in a ban on whatever peculiarly shaped rifle butt was found in the las vegas postal, supposedly 'bounces off shoulder and shoots illicitly faster'
asciilifeform: ( 'we found an old rifle in his closet, and a shoestring, if he were to tie it to the bolt like-so...' )
mircea_popescu: basically they're really really dedicated to dying in a bloc.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: even these, are afaik now quite similar to the flower pot derp, typically just a d00d who works at pharmacy warehouse
Mocky: my experience, quite limited, was that ~only people dealing pot are pot heads who don't end making a dime
mircea_popescu: then you learn the much more important lesson that a car's worth of condom's worth the whole hruscheba, plus that hottie on 2F.
mircea_popescu: the same guy selling you pot, in a working world, will sell your car for you / introduce you to the people in austriturkey to buy condoms from and so on.
mircea_popescu: the whole fucking point of even having a black market economy is to destroy the system, hence all the o'brien comments on trilema.
Mocky: I probably spent what i didn't realize would be a fortune of btc on pot. but i at least learned an important lesson.
mircea_popescu: you know, the total btc value i spent on pot the past decade is 0.00. because a) who the fuck buys pot for internet funbux, just... why! and b).
a111: Logged on 2018-06-20 15:41 FundsAreSafuh: The thrill of buying 60 BTC, and spending it all on cannabis. The exhilaration of learning PGP for the first time. The realization that FeedZeBirds was a scam.
mircea_popescu: rewatched http://trilema.com/2011/margin-call/ last nite ; hanbot was all "wtf is with these idiots, tax man takes 50% right off the top, and that's it ? no comment, not even a groan, not even 'how about you pay me the real amt you pay me rather than pretend double' zero ??" ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 16:08 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828005 << the closest we got to a replacement i believe was asciilifeform's shiva, i.e. a tinyscheme embedded into trb runtime. it was suggested as a useful exercise for novices to attempt to expose existing, useful rpc function using it, but there were no takers. at some point the idea of using shiva in prod also went away, because tinyscheme is not necessarily production ready (primarily because of C-ism issues). as
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828076 << phf in retrospect tinyscheme plugin was an ill-conceived thing. such item really calls for a troo adatronic scheme thing. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: can't do it when you pay to a proper addy.
mircea_popescu: but no, it's not like it's verboten to stand up a trb, god forbid.
mircea_popescu: you have a wallet
Mocky: tru but how am to even have money without a wallet?
asciilifeform: Mocky: multiply blockheight by 1e6 to get a ceiling for estimated mass ( you will only ever be off by a small constant )
mircea_popescu: i personally know a slut that lost the ability of being beaten for fun, through the mediation of her ducati and so many knee and hip surgeries she's immune to playpain.
Mocky: i a car the road can be full, on a bike you can still fit in there
mircea_popescu: but this reminds me, saw somewhere nice aquafort of 1918 major road here, then a river, beign crossed by bare legged girlies on oxcarts.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform driving through water is a major engineering problem though. unless specifically amphibian landing vehicle, ytou won't get it.
mircea_popescu: you can switch from driving leftmost lane this way to rightmost lane that way or rightmost lane this way to leftmost lane that way on a 4 lane road at ~100kmph in sub a second. just goes wooooosh.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-21 14:07 Mocky: I'm confused about trb rpc. Log search suggests for the first year+ of bitcoin foundation rpc was marked for death: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-02-28#1417175 but then there's dump / eat block based on rpc? Is this a new version of rpc, I don't see a new version announced on the mailing list. Can someone sum this up for me, I'm having trouble following the history.
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-21#1828005 << the closest we got to a replacement i believe was asciilifeform's shiva, i.e. a tinyscheme embedded into trb runtime. it was suggested as a useful exercise for novices to attempt to expose existing, useful rpc function using it, but there were no takers. at some point the idea of using shiva in prod also went away, because tinyscheme is not necessarily production ready (primarily because of C-ism issues). as ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: nah, it rests on a larger plastic plate, which is plastic-fastened to the whole bumper assemblage.
mircea_popescu: well, it does take like 8 liters of engine oil... but it's just a bmw.