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pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: ummm... that was the point.
BingoBoingo: Correction to Correction: http://qntra.net/#fn3-5802
mod6: phf: ok thanks, i'll work on that.
phf: ben_vulpes: there's also http://www.lispworks.com/products/lw4mr.html but i haven't tried it yet
phf: they did a lot of work to ensure that things just work, so you put a couple of annotations in your lisp and can call those lisp functions from either android or ios. the two limitations is that you don't get an easy way to call from lisp back into native (at least that was the case when i tried it). the idea is that you write all your logic in lisp and use native exclusively as view. and second limitation is that built executable lacks compiler, s
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1475432 << i've used it, and the wukix people are responsive to feature requests. i think the source is a fork of one of kyoto common lisp derivatives, probably akcl. fwiw it's the same lineage as gcl and ecl, so ascii's "why not compile ecl" is entirely reasonable ☝︎☟︎
phf: i'm surprised the bot is still operational, but i guess that's how it goes
asciilifeform: welcome back to old rusty planet3, phf
phf: mod6: if you want i can spec it out for you, but that's the direction i want to take my some miniserver, that i would put on top of my znc logs
a111: Logged on 2016-06-03 02:08 mod6: phf: something that looks like this ^^ ok or helpful?
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-03#1475379 << best api would be kako log format "<whatever incremental id your message has>;<unix timestamp>;<nick>;<message>" and "<id>;<timestamp>;*;<nick> <message>" for /me messages, with a parametrized endpoint, that takes since_time and since_id that return all messages since timestamp or all messages since id, empty document when there are none, and 400 if there's more messages then you're willing to send ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ;;later tell pete_dushenski silicon is element 14, ~silicone~ is a type of synthetic rubber ! i can't even fathom how folks confuse the 2
mircea_popescu: "Hi team at Trilema How are you? I came across your excellent gaming site: http://trilema.com " << one of the pleasures of keeping a personal blog is that well... what is it ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i guess it is at that.
trinque: it's such an obvious strategy if you suck that looking for the "original" is a bit silly
deedbot: [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Christianity: The original socialism? - http://www.contravex.com/2016/06/06/christianity-the-original-socialism/
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's a fair point innit.
mircea_popescu: when you publish a report with the wrong month's title ';/
trinque: mircea_popescu: I threw those in; I have to fix the tape between new deedbot and old (actual deed-related) code
a111: Logged on 2016-06-06 23:23 mircea_popescu: speaking of sexual offal, why is it that all the marginal women ~nobody'd give the time of day imagine they "speak for all of us", ie, somehow represent femaleness an' womanhood ?
a111: Logged on 2016-02-26 03:53 mircea_popescu: yeah well. meanwhile at reality ranch, all contact sports have this phenomena, where people age out of it. it's natural. but they don't WANT out of it, because they fucking liked it. so they become radio commentators, referees, whatever they can find.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-06#1477797 << what i can't figure out is why they never talk. for srs, what does the schmuck have to lose now ? ☝︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-06#1477796 << i installed an altogether silent one in february, but i can still hear the inductor sometimes. mega-disappointment. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so looking at the shitcoins, "ethereum" switched with "ripple" YoY. hurr durr. ☟︎
shinohai: I was thinking more of hire 4-5 trannys from backpage, ship sex vids to aforementioned countries. Profit.
mircea_popescu: it's the weirdest shit of all time.
mircea_popescu: speaking of sexual offal, why is it that all the marginal women ~nobody'd give the time of day imagine they "speak for all of us", ie, somehow represent femaleness an' womanhood ? ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Stahp invalidating the experiences of the Impactualsexuals
mircea_popescu: just because people turn heads when passing crashes doesn't mean running car into wall is "a sexuality"
mircea_popescu: dude gtfo, trans porn is interesting in the same sense any other gore is interesting.
shinohai: http://www.alternet.org/sex-amp-relationships/why-trans-porn-hugely-popular-among-hetero-men "The people of Brazil, Italy, Argentina, and Russia appear to be the most likely to watch trans porn."
mircea_popescu: lol "him in our time"
BingoBoingo: 8 foot long very toothy fish.
BingoBoingo: In other news, in spite of being broke the Illinois government is about to resurrect its program to reintroduce Aligator Gar. I am thrilled!
a111: Logged on 2016-06-06 18:22 asciilifeform: 'This will create a real full node in your browser: your browser will connect to the p2p network and do all of the block verification/serving.' << l0l suuuure.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-06 15:54 jurov: Yes. just pgp sign the text "I agree."
a111: Logged on 2016-06-06 15:10 asciilifeform: imho the only interesting mystery here is what it was, that was so loathesome, that even appelbaum refused to do it and had sentence of shitburial carried out.
asciilifeform: i'ma off to anti-eat (exercises) brb.
asciilifeform: but they ALL have same problem.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: node colouring. there is a whole motherfucking book of them.
a111: Logged on 2014-11-23 06:19 asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu i was reading a circa-1958 issue of american magazine 'popular science', and guess what was in it - http://imgur.com/mZnf775
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform oh incidentally, node coloring! what's that called ?
a111: Logged on 2014-11-21 01:38 mircea_popescu: well anyway : two trains moving on the same track leave simultaneously 29 miles apart, one doing 5mph the other 7mp. a fly caugh between them flies straight until it reaches a train then turns back and recurses, doing 9mph.
asciilifeform: for one thing, you need to have the solution to a case of problem to use it as crypto. otherwise you could 'elementary proof of fermat's conjecture is the key!'
mircea_popescu: jurov you recall that story with the trains and the fly ?
asciilifeform: jurov: try to understand what 'proven insolvable' means
jurov: i dunno, polynomials are studied long enough so that some could be proved insolvable
asciilifeform: that was the plan for 100+ yrs.
mircea_popescu: take patriarchy white man's "house of thought" give it to some rats ?
a111: Logged on 2016-06-06 15:01 asciilifeform: 'Hey there! My name is Jacob Appelbaum. I'm pretty famous for stealing other people's research and putting my own name on it. I also spend a lot of my time pretending to be a badass hacker, but actually I can only barely code. I enjoy using my social capital, influence, and power in order to manipulate other people into getting what I want. From all that, it's pretty clear that I'm awesome! However, in severa
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-06#1477594 << is this the new dekulakization ? "oh, prof sanders didn't even do anything, it was black women all along" ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: which is starting to explain how chinese ended up chinese rather than a proper language.
mircea_popescu: and there's absolutely no way that i can guarantee when drawing up the math of the cypher, that "all uses of symbol X will always be ambiguous in the space" or w/e dumb shit.
mircea_popescu: that's the bitch now innit. that's at least what i was longfaced about earlier, "in practical eavesdropping you don't EVER care about message integrity. if your algebraic cyrptosystem is porous to someone saying "bring me all messages that discuss ALEODOR" or whatever, and then he can discern something about them - say that ALL possible forms of one use it in the negative - you're still as fucked as a three year old in a pedo
asciilifeform: where the space is ENTIRELY flat.
asciilifeform: in practice opponent ~always~ knows something about the message space.
mircea_popescu: but, that said : the principles to be built upon are exactly the "well, i can solve this any way you want" said the cracker to eve. hence, stuff like polynomial roots are very respectable idea.
mircea_popescu: the current discussion is from a "in house algebraicist" considering his job, "what's the worst that can come up when the suits decide to solve X"
asciilifeform: and even this does not necessarily suffice.
asciilifeform: it is not remotely enough that problem is hard in ~general case~, you have to be able to ascertain that ~your particular case~ is hard.
mircea_popescu: so we likely need to re-do the hardness measurements anyway, from a crypto pov ; to use it in a crypto pov.
mircea_popescu: saying "x is np hard" is like saying "the us is rich". everyone you meet there is still fucking poor.
asciilifeform: one simple example that i played with in the winter is 'graph clique problem'
mircea_popescu: though some material recently linked made a very good point : "np complete" and other hardness discussions aren't even meaningful here. the term refers to WORST CASE, not to average case or anything.
asciilifeform: which is why there are entire encyclopaedias of np-complete problems, but none of them have been used in a working cryptosystem
asciilifeform: and often you have 0 control of this when generating key.
asciilifeform: all that anybody ever proved is that you can't solve ALL CASES of something.
asciilifeform: see thread about 'particular cases'
asciilifeform: jurov: easy trap to fall in
jurov: can't we abuse polynomial roots somehow for proven trapdoor function? Like, Abel–Ruffini theorem proves you can't solve certain polynomials algebraically
mircea_popescu: it's because there's no option : either algebra ; or else "control structures".
asciilifeform: i find it also very interesting that all aes-like ('boxes') cryptosystems are direct descendants of rotor machines. which were known to be pseudoscientific even when first built, as vernam existed ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2015-10-07 13:41 mircea_popescu realises that probably no one else's light went off when alf was getting all excited about vmath that what he was seeing really was "omfg, usable molecular chem."
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-10-07#1294009 << this being the reason. ☝︎
asciilifeform: picture if every time 'mars didn't rise on schedule' ALL BRIDGES FELL.
asciilifeform: i still can't fully swallow how there is this entire field that isn't certain whether it exists or is simply smelling own farts.
mircea_popescu: yeah well, i dun have THAT.
asciilifeform: if they even exist.
asciilifeform: you want actual hard trapdoor problems.
asciilifeform: and everybody pretty much uses fpga clusters for actual cryptoanalysis anyway. so elaborate 'let's zap the miners' trickery is ~pointless.
mircea_popescu: or this.
asciilifeform: and sending the lot.
asciilifeform: you can trivially do it in any ciphersystem by shamir-splitting message into K fragments of which you need J
mircea_popescu: course i guess that's all happenstance, nsa starts building long divisor processors.
mircea_popescu: yeah. but this is a lot more expensive sort of cycling than you know, hashing.
asciilifeform: it isn't magic - you can still distinguish plausible cyphertexts from rubbish, it just takes more cycles.
asciilifeform: seems like mircea_popescu is reinventing 'padding', that is, dilating message space
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform rounds P, Q to some degree.
mircea_popescu: weaponized, this would fuck up say 1 in 20 messages it'd be so taut.
mircea_popescu: CRC! it's supposed to be lossy. deliberately.
asciilifeform: in practice you get 1 'yes this is an actual message' and maxint turds.
mircea_popescu: i've not done the actual math, per N size, but there's entire classes of messages that "could" work. you won't get enough precision until you have MANY messages.
asciilifeform: this is again true of any system that isn't otp.
asciilifeform: because trivially 2 points.
asciilifeform: in ANY case other than otp, you have something to solve.
mircea_popescu: mno, because you don't actually have something to solve.
asciilifeform: ends up reducing to difficulty of discrete log problem
mircea_popescu: still. N could be something like 3kb and the scheme'd be still workable.
asciilifeform: possibly because it is the one item which actually works with no ifs, ands, buts.
asciilifeform: all roadz lead to otp.