asciilifeform: not to mention that even 'soldier' noad, is not actually cheap, costs like horse not like goat. ( considering that you want ssd, something like a respectable net pipe, uninterrupted current, distance from mordor, if available, etc )
asciilifeform: ( i omit to mention ~large~ fabs, given as if you aint representing a large and known $$$ concern, they dun even return calls )
asciilifeform: granted in past 2y since i last looked, the mythical beast of 'small fab' could have been born
asciilifeform: there's a coupla 'small scale' fabs, but on close examination smell like ripoff, they ship with literally 0 guarantee of yield , and in laughable qty , and with laughable transistor count, and -- to add insult to injury -- die packaging not included, you gotta somehow find someone to do it, somewhere☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-25#1865735 << i took a stab at this 2y ago, was very frustrating on acct of asic-baking not being a 'cash and carry' process like e.g. pcb-baking, but a heavily meat-powered affair where the derps want to 'get to know you' to figure out how much they can fleece☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: prolly not worth the bother, but in principle solid imho
asciilifeform: ( operator of box -- knows, it'd come printed on box, uniq per unit )
asciilifeform: ( how ran into this : sneak preview of mmap demo : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/VDYWv/?raw=true << path is set cleanly, as part of the generic invocation. but turns out this dun work (unless secondarystackism is enabled) , as somewhere internally it tries to ~return~ the string☟︎
asciilifeform: previously , from last 2+yrs of reading docs, i laboured under the impression that the only process that demands secondary stack, is ~returning~ variably-lengthed objects. rather than simply passing'em forward as 'in' param. which in erry context OTHER than generic, worx .☟︎
asciilifeform: because somebody's mother dropped him etc
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in today's gnat retardations : apparently it is impossible to use ( but can define!!!11 just fine ! ) a generic that takes a String as 'in', without secondary stack.
asciilifeform: ideally you want device with ~no~ flash storage at all on the pcb, to avoid even theoretical possibility of retaining bits of key when unkeyed.
asciilifeform: ( pc-os/fw-based disk crypters are retarded, iirc subj was well covered in old thrds )
asciilifeform: the 1 non-negotiable aspect is that there must be 0 pc-side involvement in or awareness of the thing.
asciilifeform: key lives in sram, which gets waltzed with rng whenever unkeyed and power is available.
asciilifeform: ( for the l0gz : from asciilifeform's pov, 'sane disk crypter' is an item that gets keyed via onboard keyboard jack, e.g. serpents, the attached disk, and unkeyed when powered off or at the closing of a contact attached to $whatever )☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: funnily enuff, just about erry year i briefly contemplate baking a sane disk crypter, but always run against same wall -- sata interface is ~unobtainable outside of reich-asics
asciilifeform: iirc the colouring was originally of telephone cables, in ww2-era us army.
asciilifeform: ( 'red', for n00bz / folx far from usa culture -- refers to 'contains seekritz' )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-24#1865708 << if pc iron had its shit together, there would not even need to be such a thing as 'red' disk -- only (temporarily) 'red' sram, and buncha freely backed up 'black' disk.☝︎
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: s/fellow though/fellow thought
asciilifeform: really, anyffing that happened 1000+ blox ago, oughta be considered permanent, even if martians land.
asciilifeform: it's really a classic example, imho, of a mechanism that requires wot ( and ergo, an out-of-band forcing knob, 'no, you do not get to rewrite history, even if you have 9000 sybils' )
asciilifeform: and yes a node you plug in today ~will~ likely sync, but this is only because the noise floor is low enuff.
asciilifeform: or, not in finite space/time, at any rate
asciilifeform: i strongly suspect that the general case of 'establish the troo historic longest chain, strictly from the network, consisting of arbitrary portions of honest and dishonest nodes', without some variant of cement, is not solvable in general case
asciilifeform: the fact that this q gets asked at all, is proof that the network does not actually rise to the level of full automatism.
asciilifeform: consider the frequent lament 'my node is stuck'. how do you ~know~ that ~yours~ is stuck, and not the world.
asciilifeform: ( if were working strictly 'by the net rules', no one would ever do this, 'i have a node, it knows what the world height is', but this is not the actual practice )
asciilifeform: even the act of looking at the heights of other nodes, with naked eye, when syncing your own, is a primitive form of checkpointism.
asciilifeform: the only practical defense against this is checkpointing, afaik. ( the prb folx tried to defend with 'orphanage', but with finite ram this does not actually solve the problem in the general case, simply ensures that different noades will wedge at different times )
asciilifeform: mod6: in fact, and iirc i discussed this 2y or so ago in the l0g, by my current understanding of the reorg mechanism, it is possible to wedge ~any~ noad by throwing a specially- 'retro'-mined block with a higher work delta than the 'genuine' one at a particular point. then reorg dun trigger at all.☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu was not fond of 'cement', because sees (correctly) that it is a kludge. but imho given the single-threaded classical trb, it or something like it, is necessary
asciilifeform: theoretically it'll get reorg'd when honest noad later connects. but afaik this has not been tested, i personally do not know if a 1000+ -blocks reorg will succeed.
asciilifeform: speaking moar generally of replays -- because of the idjit method shitoshi used for block-gettin', where 1 peer can ~monopolize connection for just about as long as he wants -- a stock trb node , syncing from empty, is in fact in a position to be fed just about arbitrarily long replay chain. which is why my interest in sane checkpoint variant.
asciilifeform: ( recall, i saved whole /16 from each range )
asciilifeform: i can't picture against whom such 'replay' would possibly do anyffing, tho
asciilifeform: mod6: either that or '1 man band', mined'em all, and forgot to set his clock..
asciilifeform: the 1 puzzler is why the derp back-dated'em; if the related tardstalk piece is to be believed, the particular shitcoin did not exist in 2015
asciilifeform: mod6: the shitnoad sends ~same miniature blox , pretty much, again & again
asciilifeform: i dun have a tcpdump on that thing at all times, lol, no amt of disk count conceivably suffice
asciilifeform: though it is possible that some or all of'em were received again and ended up in there, later
asciilifeform: mod6: they were not. see log, i set up the tcpdump ~after~
asciilifeform: arguably the only place where 'proper' spanish is cervantes. errybody else some variant of real-life
asciilifeform: in ru prison tradition, was sorta opposite formula, when they lowered a d00d into pederasty, would give'im a gurl's name, but still address as 'he'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: nao i'm curious, how do they typically respond☟︎
asciilifeform: !Q later tell bvt i left a comment on your www, should be in your queue
asciilifeform: i can't picture how it could hurt, tho. having a working artifact in yer hand readily distinguishes you from the indian 'my CREATIVE BIZNISS IDEA!111' folx.
asciilifeform: what i also dun know, is how well this meshes with Mocky/mircea_popescu's mission in Mockystan, presumably Mocky was not sent specifically to sell FG or mircea_popescu would have issued one already. so lessee what mircea_popescu says 1st.
asciilifeform: Mocky: you're , what, 2 weeks into your 8 ? or what was it
asciilifeform: Mocky: in usa i found that i had to get a postbox simply to get a lease for office that has own postbox, 'catch-22', but possib. other places moar sane
asciilifeform: a working FG could go a long way, potentially.
asciilifeform: my logic : seems like Mocky is in one of those orcistans where the heathens luvv shiny things.
asciilifeform: it is my understanding that you'll need a postbox to open company, pretty much anywhere, regardless☟︎
asciilifeform: Mocky: so see if you can get a postbox, or something like it, if it's practical.
asciilifeform: when mircea_popescu wakes up, we'll see what he says re taking one of asciilifeform's seekrit spares and sending Mocky sample.
asciilifeform: Mocky: are you able to receive mail ?
asciilifeform: might be useful item to show the heathens.
asciilifeform: not entirely unrelatedly, Mocky do you have a FG with you ?
asciilifeform: lol where on planet3 does one find that mythical place, that hasmoney + notdumb
asciilifeform: so revv-up time is never same for 2 units
asciilifeform: again for the l0gz/n00bz: this worx in practice, even if 2 boxes are started off same power supply, because of inescapable variation in the size of the power intake capacitors on each FG
asciilifeform: ( slave disables his own clock, and makes use of master's )
asciilifeform: Mocky ( and for the l0gz ) -- if it aint obvious from the FG src : the thing spends first six ticks of the clock on powerup listening for signs of a working external clock on CLK pin; if it finds one (i.e. it's pulled high on board, and can only fall low if there's a 'master' connected) it becomes 'slave' until powerdown.
asciilifeform: lessee what mircea_popescu thinks; this is a classic example of the type of knot i rely on him to cut.
asciilifeform: complicating proggy simply because there's 1 broken system somewhere, is not imho a winning proposition.
asciilifeform: bvt: on contemplation, i'm thinking possibly mips should simply get own v-branch, if we ever actually get hold of a mips.☟︎
asciilifeform: the chance of deadlock is vanishingly small, esp. if you include a random delay during power-up, so that even if for some perverse reason 'a' and 'b' are started off the same power supply , they cannot deadlock.
