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asciilifeform: i see where mircea_popescu is going
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: specify the experiment ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: think about it, with otp, there is no reason for you to actually intercept the ciphertext
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 16:59:13; mircea_popescu: then again i suppose there's some middle aged lawyers somewhere that remember the days facebook was really cool.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> was also a penguin linked here recently, same idea. << Problem of using block cipher as code book
punkman: mircea_popescu: wut
mod6: mircea_popescu: the reward for the Block Cipher contest
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu did learn a useful fact, if he had not already known it, namely that... there are not yet cryptographers
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu wanted a non-otp that demonstrably doesn't suck
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu laughs at warez aficionados but then wants the things he wants, to fall from the sky for phree
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i did not say 'motivate', but enable existing motivated.
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 17:30:00; mircea_popescu: so - if "cryptologists" can not produce what i ask of them - their wives, to the brothel, they themselves to the mines, for fraud.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: neato! turns out otp has its very own lilienfeld
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu knows differently, and can show it, historians would like to know
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 16:47:26; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if the 100k is a salary, 100 years of that buys you a house where your job is. you denying this ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> apparently i'm "self exiled to argentina" because i'm fucking local now. << I did that troll
asciilifeform: but perhaps this is not quite what mircea_popescu had in mind
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i saw the 'multicore' fad as more or less equivalent to a public proclamation of 'moore's law is dead'
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 16:45:04; mircea_popescu: see alf ? you don't know things!
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 16:35:00; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1397779 << yes, up until mp said fu, EVERYONE said moore's law is a thing.
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 16:33:13; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-02-2016#1397760 << wasn't it just last year the vc circus was special pleading up and down the ying-yang that there's a horrible unmeetable demand ?
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 16:30:26; mircea_popescu: dude... fuck delusional "courts bans". no court has the power to prevent public communication OF ANYTHING.
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 16:09:49; mircea_popescu: "thousands of dollars" ? earlier "electrical engineer" derp apparently made "low six figures", ie, 1/100 of what a house costs.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That's what angular.js does
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not so much 'wrong' as have obvious engineering limits. just as the west has own, aha
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's a personal landing page site done in Angular.js so invisible to sane browsers
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: South Park's "Stick of Truth" pretty much set the bar for interactive TV sold as game
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which kind of gaming a) uses gpu silicon b) tolerates 100ms+ wire delay ?
asciilifeform: guten morgen mircea_popescu
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 07:22:28; mircea_popescu: computers should come on fucking fabric already, i go to the shop buy 8 meters of opteron.
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 07:19:55; mircea_popescu: hahaha templeos guy is making his own hardware now ?
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 06:15:26; *: mircea_popescu fucking loves reading all these SOPS rulings, the beatings the justice system applies to itself trying to fight reddit-level crazies is delightful.
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 06:15:26; *: mircea_popescu fucking loves reading all these SOPS rulings, the beatings the justice system applies to itself trying to fight reddit-level crazies is delightful.
Luke-Jr: wait, that's you? I thought it was mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu was allergic
asciilifeform: re: the cipher thread, gotta love how nobody complained re: mircea_popescu asking folks to solve an unsolved mathematical problem, the answer to which eluded two great empires for half a century.
assbot: Logged on 06-02-2016 01:24:23; mircea_popescu: ok, this one's for asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2016/btmsr-block-cipher-competition/#comment-116441
BingoBoingo: Now /.adventure this shit spreads https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/44d8je/slashdot_knows_of_our_butterfiend_mircea_popescu/czphupg
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2016/02/intel-chips-to-get-slower/#comment-45052
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> "Not satire, just stupid and wrong." lol BingoBoingo just how much derp butthurt have you produced today ? << Less than usual actually.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu, i suppose, is a natural-born exterminator. whereas i see crushing, poisoning vermin as hard thankless work
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: i had never even heard of it prior
ascii_butugychag: i'm a bit surprised that nobody whined re: the most obvious boojum of mircea_popescu's contest - how will it be judged.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu et al ^ ?
ascii_butugychag: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.verify-it.de/sub/cramer_shoup.html << in elisp, no less ☟︎
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It's a comment on derpiticle. A comment that was carried onto the RSS version of the derpiticle.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: the folks in question are the 'unique brand of stupid' because this is ~MANDATORY~ if you want to make a living doing what they do.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: the thing is only as good as the record
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: it's their try at... vtronics
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: nonono
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: familiar with http://genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu ?
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: there is not a single unified 'playing field', no. what there is, is a torch carried by maybe 3-5 people at a time. ever.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: they are scar tissue.
ascii_butugychag: does mircea_popescu recall the eotvos thread ?
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: the lulz are circa '07
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: the lawsuit crackpot linked earlier was, imho, pure gold. he was genuinely convinced that rule-of-law was a thing! and kept picking, picking at the cracks in it, utterly mystified that every single judge 'lost' his papers, etc
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: reminds of the boondocks: "I was looking for bitches, but they had they carpet shit all over them and I couldn’t see what they look like. All that was really exposed was they eyes. And that wasn’t enough for me ‘cause you know, shit I’m lookin at they eyes and they eyes could be pretty and I take off their carpet… and then I got a tragedy."
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2016 14:03:13; mircea_popescu: who exactly wants this ? other than fucking nsa, of course, as per usual. ("but mr goldstein, you SIGNED that child porn. whadda ya mean it's an automatic process you don't control.")
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2016 03:14:22; asciilifeform: perhaps mircea_popescu when he wakes up.
felipelalli: mircea_popescu, ahhah
felipelalli: mircea_popescu, thank you to being the main source of this article! Thanks to have produced good contents about the subject.
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2016 02:50:54; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 's-boxes' etc are the voodoo paraphernalia of the block-ciphration field, which was from its very beginning and to this day 100% hokum
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-02-2016#1396844 << actually yes ! note how mircea_popescu successfully lives there! (he carries a portable timewarp generator, it is in his waistcoat) ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 04-02-2016 23:34:43; mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag> how many us folk realize that usa was mega-power in mid-20th ~because~ it was a place where folks like ulam wanted to live ? >> this is what i've been saying re tmsr for a while nao. finally dawned ?
asciilifeform: perhaps mircea_popescu when he wakes up. ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2016 02:18:02; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> any means to prove that a ~particular~ instance of that problem is not susceptible to a more efficient pill. << incidentally, this is the best argument for SIMPLE (mathematically) ciphers and cryptography generally.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 's-boxes' etc are the voodoo paraphernalia of the block-ciphration field, which was from its very beginning and to this day 100% hokum ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> this person is intellectually unqualified to participate in any discussion. << Why so surprised.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: played around with a few graph-theoretical approaches (in particular, max-clique problem) ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> a barony! << Barony today, Dutchy tomorrow
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/btmsr-block-cipher-competition/#comment-116434
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: took me about that long last time iirc
phf: mircea_popescu: ok, i don't get it, about the card printed
ascii_butugychag: phf: do you recall mircea_popescu's top hat ?
Nicknaem: mircea_popescu
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu is seeing the skin of the snake
ascii_butugychag just read mircea_popescu's thing
phf: mircea_popescu: i've been using his guide in the early 2000s, but then i think he caved and switched to laptops, because he stopped updating it. he has a recent build recommendation https://blog.cr.yp.to/20140602-saber.html from his "saber cluster"
ascii_butugychag sees what mircea_popescu was getting at earlier.
ascii_butugychag: so mircea_popescu is thinking of key leakage.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: this is unproven
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu knows how block ciphers work, aha?
assbot: Logged on 04-02-2016 17:05:32; mircea_popescu: give me a 2kb replacement for bassomatic, in 1991. or a 64kb, today.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: if this were so, may as well have sent the message in the clear!
ascii_butugychag: and now i wonder how the fuck mircea_popescu can live with rsa
assbot: Logged on 04-02-2016 16:53:38; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-02-2016#1396294 << this is like falling in love, you don't make one just because you need one. chaining things you don't understand for accountant's business sense reasons results in unexpected weaknesses. was a thread here about just that few months ago
ascii_butugychag surprised at how mircea_popescu puts up with 'cementing' the abominably-broken gpg set
ascii_butugychag: i'll wait for mircea_popescu to cough up provably-correct cipher..?
assbot: Logged on 04-02-2016 17:05:32; mircea_popescu: give me a 2kb replacement for bassomatic, in 1991. or a 64kb, today.
assbot: Logged on 04-02-2016 16:57:23; mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag seriously, you are going too far too fast. we are not ready to do this yet. i do not wish to use, and i see no purpose of having deployed in any capacity, a block cipher that does not satisfy a) and b) and idealld d) from http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=02-02-2016#1394698
assbot: Logged on 04-02-2016 03:19:11; mod6: mircea_popescu asciilifeform ben_vulpes trinque shinohai et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-February/000209.html
assbot: Logged on 04-02-2016 03:19:11; mod6: mircea_popescu asciilifeform ben_vulpes trinque shinohai et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-February/000209.html
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-02-2016#1396210 << wouldn't it be logic-er at this point to create a v genesis, and then add to that ? << Well, in short, yes. Just am aiming to get it in a good working condition and well vetted before a 'genesis'. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 02-02-2016 23:48:55; mircea_popescu: incidentally, thinking vaguely along the lines of making a b-a call for papers for symm cypher, what would we actually want ? i'm thinking a) block sizes of 1, 4, 16, 64 kbytes. none of that bit-denominated bs, wtf is this, 64 bits. fuck that. b) key size of 64kb fixed. c) bonus points for proved hardness, as-hard-as-x etc d) bonus points for not using just basic arithmetics. fuck this shift-and-xor
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Envirowank
assbot: Logged on 04-02-2016 03:19:11; mod6: mircea_popescu asciilifeform ben_vulpes trinque shinohai et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-February/000209.html
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> jurov oops ima take the 384 back soz. << It's my bad in addition to total words I should have reported total shares.
BingoBoingo: <jurov> mircea_popescu: qntra report sums to 8969 shares, but you sent me 384 more? << Sums to 8969 indeed. 9353 words last month minus 384 dupe error from december. Someday TMSR will discover arithmetic.
assbot: Logged on 04-02-2016 03:19:11; mod6: mircea_popescu asciilifeform ben_vulpes trinque shinohai et al: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-February/000209.html
assbot: Logged on 03-02-2016 22:40:15; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-02-2016#1395522 << polarbeard seriously fix your pgp!