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a111: Logged on 2014-12-10 00:51 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had an article (or perhaps a thread here? but can't seem to find it...) about an archetypical u.s. expat. fellow keeps a pub somewhere in thailand, or cambodia, etc. the locals - drink for free. he fancies that if he begins to run out of dough, he can always start charging. but somehow in the back of his head he knows what will happen to his sorry arse if he were to do so.
mircea_popescu: fortunately it doesn't count.
asciilifeform: 'didn't somebody tell you which three chairs are sittable on, from the 500 ?' etc
mircea_popescu: now, SOMETIMES, it's like in the case of the lisp ai, where i was lazy and didn't actually provision properly.
asciilifeform: 'unix philosophy'!! includes 'it will break and you won't know why until the smell of cooked flesh'
asciilifeform: now i dun have an intel agency, or even dirigible, but i did read mr.t's campaign brochure and 'surrender to bitcoin' wasn't in there.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-13#1613468 << if mr.t on the throne for 8 yrs and at the end of the 7th same exact thing still happens -- still work of 'hangers on' ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: shinohai the auschwitz reference is oddly on point, because it was the first large scale encounter with a problem very much in this vein : if body goes long enough without sufficient intake, it eventually digests the proteins thatmake up the intake manifold for its protein digestion cycle, resulting in a situation where the body is alive but not for long, even if you feed it it can't digest anymore.
mircea_popescu: what i mean specifically is that if we turned all biomass to ash today, life wouldn't be able to just start right back up with people in the way computers would. if i break all the computers nobody's making the pentium 1 all over again.
trinque: isn't there some bureau for this? call the ministry of inconvenient weather. it's not like we're some poor country without one.
mircea_popescu: well, perversely, it either presupposes THAT or else as the more commonly the case in socialist states (really argentina is what the us was aspiring to be with ronald mcclinton) that they have 0 business to do anyway. in which case not being able to do particular subset x of the pile of things you weren't going to do anyway somehow stands out.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman can't get from point a to point b, what it usually means.
mircea_popescu: it didn't ring any bells so i went to check it out, cracked me up
mircea_popescu: it was that rachel wouldn't shut up and wouldn't stop riding the cock.
mircea_popescu: or for that matter what sustained the jews through their 5k years. no, it wasn't "the sense of humor", LEL! no, it wasn't "the covenant"
mircea_popescu: we're not fucking women. feelings don't enter into it. war before winter, and the wholesale of california 20yos to saudi princes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you drop the hand the moment you know it can't win, not the moment you feel you can afford to do so.
mircea_popescu: anyway, that's kind-of the hope, i guess, with all the "loyal disloyalty" and "leaks from wh" bs, that maybe he's doing something. except -- he isn't.
mircea_popescu: nixon didn't run on a "i will tear down washington dc" ticket.
asciilifeform: and mr.t has not one schlesinger but, if we are to believe, 1,001.
asciilifeform: well what's the ??? step between 'they wouldn't let me!!' and the proverbial 'profit'
mircea_popescu: he doesn't actually need to do anything. all he needs is a good excuse as to why he isn't. so far - they're providing him it.
mircea_popescu: they're building up his cred, "hey, tried x, tried y, tried z, clinton wouldn't let me!"
asciilifeform: if judiciary spins mr.t on its cock like propeller, however, it is not hard to picture obummercare, warmism, the whole orchestra, staying exactly where it is because 'customer has come to expect!' and 'they HAVE RIGHTZ!!!'
mircea_popescu: i still can't believe they actually opted to engage the judicial system. that was supposed to be the reserve. they've no reserves now.
phf: same as "no reason" why can't have byte equivalent binary from multiple compilations
mircea_popescu: if you don't have the binary's source, let's say you're holding smoke.
mircea_popescu: yeah well. can;t win them all.
mircea_popescu: static linking doesn't work ? ok then, i import the source.
phf: i thought that was the case since forever, last time i asked a question why gcc can't tree shake (10 or so years ago) i was told that i don't understand..
asciilifeform: 'This problem can't be appropriately solved with a linker, particularly not the GNU linker. GNU ld can only throw out sections, not unused functions or global variables; so if you've got a file containing 10 functions, 9 of which are unused, all ten will still get linked.' << for the imbecility museum
ben_vulpes: in *entirely* unrelated lols, it turns out that various tribal security directives are to "use ms products and keep all data on local disk because we don't trust cloud because obvious tool of ministry of wtf." meanwhile, it dept struggling to wrap heads around how all of their files ended up on the ms cloud.
asciilifeform: betcha all of their pay doesn't buy ~one~ discounted-f35
mircea_popescu: so now they want to discuss whose ties are bad, who has bathrobes, and whether trump cares or doesn't care about the latest saturday night live.
mircea_popescu: wasn't it of the future ?
mircea_popescu: i don't care "whjat this says", it's not fucking fashion.
mircea_popescu: this isn't a theoretical discussion. i'm not about to upgrade libc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they don't.
asciilifeform: reason is that 'modern' gcc WON'T statically link, without contortions
asciilifeform: actually that probably isn't the reason (the crapola all summed, weighs, what, a few MB.)
mircea_popescu: the perverse reason is quite evident : they don't want to pay akamai for downloads.
mircea_popescu: basically open source isn't.
mircea_popescu: apparently they contain dependencies they aren't aware of. how does this happen, clumsy drepper hand edited them post facto ?
ben_vulpes: "illegal smuggling and trafficking of humans" is all over that thing. would otherwise be a huge victory for the nonprofits pushing that line, except for how it's donny t doing it
mircea_popescu: apparently it doesn't actually save errors properly.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: i can't help but picture you on a box with 6 months of old reddit browser tabs...
phf: there aren't often local cable networks. at least judging by number of microwave relay towers where i am now, and their frequency, that's all you get.
asciilifeform: but apparently he isn't made of the correct stuff
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if mr.t raised the banner, i suspect there would be plenty of folx, in particular army, who would happily string up judges, berkeley 'professors', j00yorktimes journarasts, etc.
mircea_popescu: he'll simply abandon it at that point, except discoursively, and it'll forever be "hey i tried to fix things but the swamp wouldn't let me". in any possible strategic evaluation of the situation, the best outcome for trump is exactly what's happening.
mircea_popescu: it's a blow to the justice system more than to trump. but hey, the pantsuited opposition can't possibly consider things, so therefore they can't possibly exist.
adlai: oh sorry, that line got pebkaced. it seems wrong though, shouldn't a miner want to both increase the amount of work the others do (validating the new block), and reduce the chance they have to do reorg work?
mircea_popescu: suddenly i don't need to explain why all "police" resources are expended to fight "war on drugs" even as kitty genovese dies in a pool of her own blood. cia wants drugs as its own domain, what.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-10 14:20 davout: as he formulates it doesn't strike me as a fundamental issue, the miner of a block ~is~ properly incentivized to broadcast it as widely as possibru
davout: as he formulates it doesn't strike me as a fundamental issue, the miner of a block ~is~ properly incentivized to broadcast it as widely as possibru ☟︎
mircea_popescu: aaaand in other "they won't fucking yield", check out jstolfi :
phf: i've not used it from a cellphone though, i don't grok the whole concept of a shell on a device without keyboard
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-10#1612714 << is handy, but i can't bring myself to replacing safety critical ssh with it. i've had plenty of opportunity to test it though, and it's best option for when you're trying to connect to server over a public wifi running over cell network off a generator ☝︎
mircea_popescu: but, dogs aren't bone eating machines. they just crack them to get to the marrow. you still get stuck with the bone.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: if you had a defective dog that chokes on bone, wouldn't you rather know early on
mircea_popescu: bacteria that digest meat also digest people ; bacteria that digest plants (and dairy) don't.
mircea_popescu: understand, the definition of septic tank / latrine isn't "where people shit", much like a fridge isn't "the hole in the kitchen wall food comes from". if meat goes in, then it's a latrine, nqa.
mircea_popescu: because plants aren't all that different in this respect. if you wish to add something to the soil, carbon's the absolute worst choice.
mircea_popescu: "As there was no mechanism for concurrency control (except for minimal support for things like counters), applications were often inconsistent" << then people wonder why us ships don't work.
mircea_popescu: they ended up with unbounded complexity in the "acl" system which really just happened to be the rug corner under which we brush everything we don't know how to do, didn't it.
mircea_popescu: wtf is wrong wit hthese people. the index to data factor isn't a benchmark of efficiency.
ben_vulpes: "looks pretty, doesn't work"
mircea_popescu: and b) holy shit, 8 "engineers" ? kids with whispy chin-only beards stuffing their tongue up an asshole aren't engineers. they're kids with whispy chin beards stuffing their tongue up an asshole.
mircea_popescu: "Backend was completely on Amazon Web Services •It was planned to migrate Parse to Facebook’s infrastructure (e.g. Haystack, Tao, F4, Extended Apache Giraph, Gorilla) but the project was abandoned •Roughly 8 developers working on SDKs, 8 on the server, 8 DevOps + a few more engineers" <<< 1) no it was not "planned", fuckwads don't have mp certificate in planning, may not claim they are engaging in any planning. the prop
mircea_popescu: it's pretty much that + "stories from around the web -- find out the secret glassblowers don't want you to know about how a mother of two in vincente lopez lost five kgs off her coffee mug each morning one weird trick!"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'apps' ain't 'the empire' tho, they're panem et circenses
ben_vulpes: and to quote myself in another channel, "soz for cynicism but if it looks like madness and a tower of abstractions written by frontend devs who don't in2 systems...it probably is."
ben_vulpes: near as i can tell, and it tripped my retard alerts fast so i didn't invest much in determining how it works, someone used that to make a "database as a service" for mobiledevz
mircea_popescu: it's that the core parts of mordor infrastructure aren't even worth operating.
ben_vulpes: you know how mobile devs can't in2 servers?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in odd news : https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xF82F4B16DEC408F8 wasn't in phuctor (i just added it manually).
trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/8D4Xi/?raw=true << lisp folks, shouldn't this work?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: just when you thought this can't get any lulzier: '...resource exhaustion issues which can be triggered only with crafted patterns (either during compilation or execution) are not treated as security bugs.' ( https://sourceware.org/glibc/wiki/Security%20Exceptions )
mircea_popescu: that opens up the "omfg why did you pay bill at http://scambills.org/roflcopter.txt it wasn't me!!" to which the retort is hey, sfyl, next time don't let someone else log into #trilema as you.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-09 02:03 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612504 << o noes, and i thought keybase is srs bzns of crypto, doesn't try to scam privkeys out of users.
mircea_popescu: i suppose it's a harsh blow to the socialist dorks to realise that no, being "an activist" doesn't mean you're someone. every yoko ono out there shudders, and that's... most of the movement.
mircea_popescu: anyway, apparently melania trump worked as a high end escort, sez daily mail ? i never had the pleasure, but seriously, wouldn't you WANT a president whose daugther is keen ?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612504 << o noes, and i thought keybase is srs bzns of crypto, doesn't try to scam privkeys out of users. ☝︎☟︎
shinohai: thestringpuller: I honestly don't want to encourage you to continue to use Deb for obvious reasons .... but it's just vanilla wheezy
a111: Logged on 2017-02-08 18:12 mircea_popescu: lobbes if you don't feel like writing account infrastructure of your own, prolly best wait for trinque to complete the deedbot thing.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-08#1612483 << yeah, I'm fine with trinque handling the payment portion of the process, and I shouldn't have any issues getting lobbesbot to handle the billing portion ☝︎
mircea_popescu: lobbes if you don't feel like writing account infrastructure of your own, prolly best wait for trinque to complete the deedbot thing. ☟︎
Reuel: ah yeah i hobbied a bit with the cli before, can't seem to find it now... i'll look harder
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Don't forget Qntra Qntributor http://qntra.net/author/lobbes/
Reuel: And hardware isn't 100% safe either... ah I am drifting off anyway
mircea_popescu: (after "they won't fucking yield" peacefully, without any sort of plan other than "we'll just keep on going". holocaust predictably followed.)
a111: Logged on 2017-02-08 00:28 mircea_popescu: but anyway, yes, they won't fucking yield, mostly because being a libertard means you have absolutely nothing else, so what exactly would be the difference between yielding and blowing oneself up ? they would, isis style, if they had the guts.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-07 21:18 asciilifeform: i.e. 'we will do exactly what we did under obummer, and fuck you, and oh hey did we mention, fuck you? and go ahead and try to pull fed funding, that button ain't connected'
a111: Logged on 2017-02-07 20:05 mircea_popescu: i don't use their dns.
mod6: <+thestringpuller> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612224 << gcc (Debain 4.7.2-5) 4.7.2 ; the problem is g++ won't install due to some dependency conflict in apt-get ; I don't know exactly what package(s) is(are) causing it... << ahh, huh. well, if you ever figure out what it is, let us know. ☝︎
shinohai: It isn't bad really. You can test drive in a chroot until you have time to build actual kernel.
thestringpuller: it's time consuming tho, but what good things aren't?
thestringpuller: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-07#1612224 << gcc (Debain 4.7.2-5) 4.7.2 ; the problem is g++ won't install due to some dependency conflict in apt-get ; I don't know exactly what package(s) is(are) causing it... ☝︎
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: this wouldn't be the first isp that tried to monkey with the naked bits , nor the last
thestringpuller: haven't tried MP-node