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diana_coman: right, I'm anyway currently in need of a break and at a loss otherwise on this; so BingoBoingo at your leisure, please change the cables and leave only one FG plugged in for now; I'll get some sleep in first, so there's no hurry - anytime within next 10 hours works fine
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'blue' is theoretically same chip, but from a diff chinese seller ( fwiw asciilifeform's desk FG operates from a 'blue' )
diana_coman: hard to say if that is more than a glitch or not though
diana_coman: as it is, it will have to wait until tomorrow anyway as atm I'm a bit at a loss wtf
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, wait a bit, at least to know if there is something else to try if you go there
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> BingoBoingo, how long would it take to get there and unplug one of the FG to have a test with only one? << I could go there and be back witing an hour
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, how long would it take to get there and unplug one of the FG to have a test with only one?
diana_coman: at any rate, updates so far are relatively few: can't reproduce it on different machine (though I still have a few to test...); it IS easily reproduced even with dd on smg test server
BingoBoingo: The bigger wtf is what did they need a police force for? Place is clearly sized for a part time constable or two.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-12 13:49 diana_coman: asciilifeform, BingoBoingo access to box & config confirmed; FG on ttysUSB0 had a wobble at first and I don't understand why: I ran the stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 115200 raw -echo -echoe -echok and then tried dd iflag=fullblock if=/dev/ttyUSB0 | hexdump -C but nothing came up; then I ran the stty on usb1 as well and tried again and it...worked; any idea wtf was that at first?
mircea_popescu: but imo this correct behaviour was elided specifically because http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-27#1530346 reason, ie "our permission model is fucked, if we do a close-before-open it makes it too obvious" ☝︎
asciilifeform: btw if anyone wants to experimentally observe the zombie effect, can do it with ordinary gnu 'screen' -- when opened on a tty with blocking i/o, will routinely leave zombie turd instead of properly terminating, then hours later you find that tty is wedged, and discover 9 copies of 'screen' in process table.
diana_coman: I thought Dr A said that of you actually!
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, ahaha dadatroll; but now I see why it didn't even ring a bell at all as I probably missed the comments section there/didn't follow it
a111: Logged on 2018-07-31 16:15 asciilifeform: unix i/o is retarded, if blocking read blocks, it gives you a zombie process , and the next process you start that tried to read same tty, will also become zombie
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> basically if I don't manage to reproduce it on any other machine, it would seem it's potentially to do with that specific system << Let me know if you want a pair of hands.
mircea_popescu: (the above, for the rotaku club, is a pinnacle of intertextual metatextuality the likes french culture barely ever managed, and anglonline never did.)
diana_coman takes a break from the usb reading wtf
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I don't recall it but sounds apt (as dr. a does wherever I read him)
mircea_popescu: to quote dr.a , i have no real sense of humour, it's software-emulated.
phf: henceforth any attempts to expose the activities of the secret society of illuminated fraudsters shall be denounced as a ravings of delusional paranoids
phf: mircea_popescu: well, we had conversations about esoteric societies in the past, and there's a reason for why the logs are public and everything that follows
a111: Logged on 2014-11-30 06:31 mircea_popescu: like the stuff discussed above re usg agency redhat, fuycking up linux. EXACTLY the stiuation of the giant ruining a chair.
phf: in this particular case though, it's a joke
diana_coman: so, the set_usb_attributes was commented out; I cleaned everything and did a fresh build; ran the tests and... it read 3 octets and then it blocked
asciilifeform: (~= 'for erry smart-arse, a threaded cock will be found' ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: a FG that produces , under normal conditions, 0 output for, say, 30 seconds, is indicative of dead iron.
asciilifeform: this being said, if you implement a timeout for the blocking reads, you will not have zombie problem.
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform did not write the linux i/o subsystem ; nor the pl2303 kernel mod ; and will readily admit that they are sad. and if anyone has idea for some other means to connect a 115200 baud box to machine, that does not suffer from the weakness of these, i'm as always all ears )
asciilifeform: unix i/o is retarded, if blocking read blocks, it gives you a zombie process , and the next process you start that tried to read same tty, will also become zombie ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/patches/eucrypt_manifest/tree/eucrypt/smg_rsa/truerandom.c#L65 << incidentally this is erroneous. a correctly-inited FG will never produce interrupt ( the tty ~must not~ interpret 0x03 as control char, it must return all octets verbatim )
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I commented out the set_usb_attributes so basically it opens and calls fcntl to make it blocking but that's it; it took a bit longer to get stuck but it still did
asciilifeform: btw you will probably want to make a timeout mechanism, to ring alarm if FG ever does die, rather than hanging
asciilifeform: diana_coman: comment out the init, and fire a shot.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, and on a second run it got stuck after doing 9 init+reads, ugh
asciilifeform: ( nobody's yet reported a wedged FG on the standard dd-powered test. )
asciilifeform: ( it is a 'wings fall off'-level problem )
BingoBoingo: diana_coman asciilifeform: We did recieve a pile of new USB ttl cables. Swapping the cables for fresh ones is a troubleshooting option.
diana_coman: anyway, let's see: you suggest I take out the init, just open and read; set it up outside and then try; can't hurt giving it a try at least
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/patches/eucrypt_manifest/tree/eucrypt/smg_rsa/truerandom.c#L84 << seems like you re-init the usb dongle every time you read. this is not recommended, i've encountered a chinese ttl plug that wedges if you init it one too many times
asciilifeform: ( i have yet to witness this wonder. but there's always a first time. )
asciilifeform: gotta rule out the possibility of a dead FG.
asciilifeform: this will give a starting clue.
diana_coman: it should be, yes; as far as I can tell at a quick look at truerandom.c it is too
asciilifeform: iirc started just about a yr ago.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-31 12:47 asciilifeform: !Q later tell esthlos in e.g. http://summaries.logs.esthlos.com/#2016-03-28 you link to kako's log ; i recommend against this , it is not a faithful record of the actual text ( last yr he took to monkeying with it via perlism and possibly also manually )
asciilifeform: btw i oughta mention , i had to resort to a modified vdiff.sh : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/rB9AD/?raw=true for ch11 , as the ada comment syntax causes inbandism barf with classic vdiff.sh when deleting or modifying the comment headers at the start of ffa modules
asciilifeform: did i ever mention how phf's viewer makes patches a joy to reread !
asciilifeform: ( imho a peculiar hobby for a fella sitting on ~1k btc , but i've nfi )
asciilifeform: d00d moved on to the 'smear shit on the walls' stage of his disease a while ago.
a111: Logged on 2016-03-28 13:11 mircea_popescu: and so, this is the end for this particular irc channel as a venue for tmsr. the irc festivities are moving over to #trilema ; with a more selective lordship list and improved tools all around. you're welcome to join - but leave the fiat mind behind, lest it drag you too back down into the swamp.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell esthlos in e.g. http://summaries.logs.esthlos.com/#2016-03-28 you link to kako's log ; i recommend against this , it is not a faithful record of the actual text ( last yr he took to monkeying with it via perlism and possibly also manually ) ☟︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2014-03-18 01:19 asciilifeform: ninjashogun: suggested experiment. take a radio transmitter (a household walkie-talkie will do) and transmit, with a computer sitting nearby.
BingoBoingo: Well, when I sent a picture of what was then simply known as "the plant" to the Venezolana (still in Venezuala on family business), she asked if it had and name and... Ya ta
mircea_popescu: anyone wanna do a 20bux paypal payment for me ?
BingoBoingo: Well, It's a missouri sized country they are broadcasting too and they do the digital video thing with some sort of error correcting mechanism
asciilifeform: still impressive, i'd have imagined multipath would be a killer in BingoBoingostan
asciilifeform: 'De este modo, el BROU se convirtió en el único actor identificado que sacó un rédito económico con el secuestro que tuvo a Salomone recluida durante un mes: cobró aproximadamente US$ 2.500 por concepto de sus servicios.' << lolwtf
BingoBoingo: In other news, a "tupamaro" (some sort of terrorist Italian hill monkey from which most of the current government is derived) is suing the local gov for treating him like a terrorist https://www.elobservador.com.uy/amodio-perez-demanda-al-estado-us-320-mil-n1259700
BingoBoingo: In still other discoveries of the day they have a deli meat here. It's like mortadella and morcilla had a child on a bed of black pepper.
mircea_popescu: sometimes you sound like you just got off the set of a chaplin movie.
asciilifeform: gonna put'em on a 1st-and-15th calendar.
BingoBoingo: And I take it you don't have need for a single purpose dishwasher.
BingoBoingo: In that case you could get her delivered to your mountain and get a start as a banana plantation owner.
BingoBoingo: Have one of the other classmates set her up a bouncer?
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/07/29/casa-boingo-a-photo-tour/ << Bingo Blog - Casa Boingo A Photo Tour
mircea_popescu: anyway, i for one am amused by his easy slide from "why do you like" to "why do you need". obviously i don't fucking need a waitress, yes i can have my own sluts do it for me, and on (rare!) occasion i do just that. but why the fuck would i trade slavegirl time for minwage time, for one, and why the fuck would i have to ~like~ having to do it.
mircea_popescu: maybe she's tailing the soviets. maybe she's picking up random dutch tourist girl. maybe she's just having a snooze.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-24 16:31 asciilifeform: it went approx like this, iirc some time in 2016 : asciilifeform : 'if quality slavegurlz can be trained to do anything , mircea_popescu couldja spare 1 or 2 for ada battallion ' mircea_popescu : 'hell no, why would i waste any on such a thing; what next, i will ask asciilifeform to do field work detail in their place ? '
asciilifeform: ( iirc there was a trilema where 'restaurant waiter is a kind of ersatz servant for those who can't afford own, like that jacket they keep for the occasional d00d who wanders in without jacket' )
mircea_popescu: and people who will stop traffic to pull your car out from the mud because you stopped to take pics. and in general, you don't want to fuck your neighbour specifically, the little you fuck (and it IS little, boyish fantasies notwithstanding, one competent, well trained woman can exhaust and keep exhausted a dozen or more men) can very well be imported.
mircea_popescu: it delivers the things you ~want~ from the general population, eg, grocery bag boy who is, genuinely and thoroughly, deligted to bag my ~500 worth of imported french wine and whatnot. and he'll take the time to roll each bottle nicely in thick paper, if i want him to. and he'll hitch it all to a cart and follow me to the car, and be so fucking thrilled he got a fiver for it.
mircea_popescu: intellectual sophistication to cut it as a slavegirl in my harem. i said before, "There's not who'd compete and there's not how to compete with her, it's a laughable proposition, like a samurai at a kindergarten." and yes that is after training. but all the training in the world can't help the instant kindergartner.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-29#1838175 << this is absolutely not true. after months during which i had my girls scour the place (and seeing how the population isn't all that much, i do believe they touched personally every single individual female that could perhaps be worth my consideration) the net result was epsilon. most of the bootcamp population is imported here, and for very fundamental reasons : it takes ~a lot~ of ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-29#1838170 << argentines are literally and without exageration a bunch of soy farmers who pretend FOR NO REASON conceivable, a circumstance of which they are aware AND PRETEND IT DOES NOT MATTER! AT ALL!, pretend they say they're something in the vein of "third power in europe". and that they might have such things as submarines, and so on. it's literally pig going through girls' charm cabinet a ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-07-29 13:43 phf: asciilifeform: that's not a fair comparison, if nothing else gulag still was _men_ wrestling raw matter from the earth in extreme environmental conditions, and succeeding. whatever limited technological support they had had to work reliably and achieve some kind of objective
mircea_popescu: this isn't somalia 1-dollar-a-day level of starvation poor. costa rica is relatively economically developed, about on par with say ohio.
mircea_popescu: also i'll point out, 49k colones is almost a whole benjie
phf: asciilifeform: while idly researching camping stoves, i recently saw a lulzy video of an american trying to light a polish camping primus and failing miserably (the manual dexterity (???) required for the pre-heat phase was apparently too much for this particular specimen)
phf: can't burn trash and flotsam in a primus
phf: you know how when somebody says "she's like a pig" and somebody says "that's not fair to the pig, pigs are noble creatures"
phf: they were still men, doing things. this is, like your quoted item, half way up a tree
phf: asciilifeform: it's not a fair comparison to gulag folx
phf: asciilifeform: that's not a fair comparison, if nothing else gulag still was _men_ wrestling raw matter from the earth in extreme environmental conditions, and succeeding. whatever limited technological support they had had to work reliably and achieve some kind of objective ☟︎
mircea_popescu: obvious she "goes to friends for advice". what fucking friends ? what fucking "advice" ? the world hasn't worked that way in two centuries, if i want a shirt i want 1 in 1000 shirt shops, if i want a woman i talk to candidates selected through three to five passes with two to three degrees of magnitude lossage each...
mircea_popescu: basically a platform to explore the woeful mismatch between the inadequacy of ye olde fiat institutions and the far reaching powers of the network.
mircea_popescu: it occurs to me, here's a good idea for a film : this woman loses a child, like it disappears. and then a year or so later it is found!
BingoBoingo: In other news, pete_d's new blog header has him with a Elon Musk branded weeding torch http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/contravex-not-a-flamethrower-header.jpeg
BingoBoingo: Seriously though a more detailed update on the state of Casa Boingo is indeed baking
BingoBoingo: It's how these things work. Yesterday I went to the electric company office to correct a bunch of mispellings and sign a contract for the power they have been delivering here. Monday I get to go to the fiber company office for similar reasons
asciilifeform: 'hey, i heard you wrote something about music, i'm gonna start a band' 'what instruments do you play' 'i'm gonna bang two rocks together' 'y'know, it is not easy to tune these' 'eh, if i feel the pain, i have a stringless fiddle in my attic i might play with'
fromloper: Anyway, didn't mean to bother you. I will go back to interacting with a more crystalized form of your mind. Adios.
fromloper: Anyway, I've been contemplating building a lisp OS
fromloper: Really I mean I wanted to make sure you weren't a guy I've got beef with on /r/lisp, because I would have to appologize.
asciilifeform: posting to reddit is close to a guaranteed waste of time .
lobbes: clear communication is definitely a weak point of mine, and from what I can tell stems from my own unorganized mental processes. But as a semi-related side-note: Finally having a sane blogging tool is doing wonders for remedying the foregoing.
mircea_popescu: lobbes nothing wrong with that. i think it's both sound a decision in general and your call to make in any case. but it gotta be communicated as such.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-09 21:24 lobbes: mod6 I would gladly work to earn that grant. As it is, I already need to get the 'legacy' auctionbot away from heathen dependencies (in this case, the 'supybot' api), so in building this custom auctionbot for pizarro I may just take the opportunity to design something sitting atop ircbot/logbot and eventually release a proper genesis
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-28#1838102 << yes. I do not see any point to building more on top of the unsteady scaffolding. I'd rather it rest on a proper republican foundation. and ftr, I did state this was my intention from the start >> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-09#1833022 ☝︎☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-18 01:18 phf: "The l0de radio hour is a long-running live call-in show that irregularly broadcasts over the internet, and to pirate shortwave and FM stations. It is hosted by Lode Ray Dio, a gypsy hustler with a long history of fraud, grifting, and treason. The show is notable for its frequent cancellations, obscene and bizarre content, and a high rate of listener suicide."