mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the problem with your view it's that it's so damned adversarial.
mircea_popescu: you seriously imagine fear of retribution keeps my harem together ?!
jhvh1: shinohai: Error: "~ticker" is not a valid command.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: your computer still runs on electricity, not on molasses.
lobbes: but now it is there twice :P
lobbes: of course, if I finally got to adding search on the logs, maybe it'd be easier to find this out :/
lobbes: help page noted. I'll put it first in the queue
a111: Logged on 2016-08-27 00:25 jhvh1: shinohai: Error: "~ticker" is not a valid command.
shinohai did it for the glory of Baal of course
a111: Logged on 2016-08-26 22:02 covertress: asciilifeform: if i do, you'll be the last to know
mircea_popescu: if all this guy's guides/howtos/whatever are like that, it's no wonder his clientele has issues.
BingoBoingo: Starting to seem like the only thing that could have saved broken elliot would have been going all in on the booze. Not getting girls drunk, but getting himself black out drunk until he developed the alcoholism and his life became unmanageable for relateable reasons.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Maybe he's get lucky and the B12 deficiency encephaly would break his brain into working
BingoBoingo: "Both my friends James and Philip seem to be the weak, accepting type; whereas I am the fighter. I will never stand to be insulted, and I will eventually have my revenge against all those who insult me, no matter how long it takes." << Dude needed a real enemy
BingoBoingo: "Somehow the thought that he could have just taken that [shiny new BMW, by the way] ride of his over to Burbank or something and picked up one (or two, or three) of the black girls that perenially prop the street lights waiting for something [such as private movie theatres in Malibu mansions] to happen never occurs. Hell is other people for some people ; but apparently sometimes hell is just the hole in one's own head." << "And through w
☟︎ BingoBoingo: orking these steps we shall find a new Freedom and a new happiness... We will intuitively know how to handle situations which used to baffle us" (TM)(R)
a111: Logged on 2016-08-27 04:48 BingoBoingo: Starting to seem like the only thing that could have saved broken elliot would have been going all in on the booze. Not getting girls drunk, but getting himself black out drunk until he developed the alcoholism and his life became unmanageable for relateable reasons.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-27 05:09 BingoBoingo: "Somehow the thought that he could have just taken that [shiny new BMW, by the way] ride of his over to Burbank or something and picked up one (or two, or three) of the black girls that perenially prop the street lights waiting for something [such as private movie theatres in Malibu mansions] to happen never occurs. Hell is other people for some people ; but apparently sometimes hell is just the hole in one's own head." << "And through w
mircea_popescu: cuz i had nfi there was anyone left in california who didn't ganja
mircea_popescu: kid is a wonder to behold, he effortlessly succeeds at things virtually none of his compatriots ever do, such as killing people (note how many of the "i shot a buncha losers" types are actually first generation or further as opposed to malibu-beachouse-timesharing-lizzardkin) or keeping his nose clean (seriously, find someone in californa born 80s or prior who is not and will not smoke), and then is all bitter and butthurt o
mircea_popescu: ver his "failure" (rather, deliberate avoidance) of cunt.
mircea_popescu: sexuate copulation being, in ALL species, the absolute lowest bar conceivable. numeration is a higher achievement.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this hallucination of choice, "i am getting none and will tell you what i won't accept" is the universal symptom of elliot-idiocy not just in elliot, but in everyone. AFTER you get MORE than you can handle, THEN you can express preference. not before. never before.
mircea_popescu: when it's a case that you're already fucking tanja, jennifer, rachel and the bubblebutt sisters, and this hottie cinema user begs you to let her come in with you and massage your feet while you watch the movie, and you're too exhausted to think that's a good idea, THEN you start thinking what you prefer, and ditch some of the crowd.
mircea_popescu: when it's a case that your boss wants you to do overtime, his competitor wants you to move over and there's five headhunters heating your phone, THEN you consider it's time to ask for a raise.
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "the preferences" of the virgin. virgins have no preferences.
mircea_popescu: because preference, definitionally, is a choice between two or more present things.
mircea_popescu: choice between one or fewer present things is not preference, but ideology/insanity/identity/whatever you wish to call it.
mircea_popescu: if they ate dragonflies rather than wasps, they'd have had a preference for dragonflies and preferred dragonflies.
mircea_popescu: if they won't eat the cockroach, they don't have a preference, they just gave up, or whatever.
mircea_popescu: and you're way too liberal with this "oh, bigint ? sure i'll smush a string in there!"
mircea_popescu: how the hell did you end up with the idea death is ? fucking ancients knew proof to the contrary.
mircea_popescu: if you didn't know geometry known in ancient greece you'd be worried. but this ?
mircea_popescu: this qualifies as insanity. wtf do you mean the realia-idealia is "distinction without a difference" ?
mircea_popescu: exact fucking definition of derealisation, as in the psychosis symptom. "can't distinguish between things present and things in own head."
mircea_popescu: the idea is to protect yourself from workplace injuries, not to embrace them. what is this, 1800s sulphur mine kids in sicily ? hunchback and sideways ?
mircea_popescu: anyway : your death is never present to you, because for while you're here, it is not yet, and once it is, you are no more.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: the practical difference it makes is that if you stuprum definitions the results are - by definition - undefined. just like when you smash buffers, what you get is a no-longer-working machine. irrespective of what "practical" difference it makes understood as "i still see tiled windows so all is well"
mircea_popescu: going out of bounds is the exact equivalent in practice of the medieval notion of "losing communion with god". you're... lost.
mircea_popescu: so wait, wait, if "nobody's key got compromised" then koch bug was no bug ?
mircea_popescu: incorectness is "your array is 4 bytes and your malloc is 2 bytes", not "if you run this code you get crater"
mircea_popescu: which is why all the scorn for their inevitable "oh but this rarely if ev er happens".
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: probably not your foray, but asking for friend. what's the best way to debug "copy_from_user" without GDB (linux syscall)?
mircea_popescu: your calling induction "demonstration" and you pretending a nude call as to the future counts as either doth not actually change how reason works, you know.
a111: Logged on 2016-08-27 14:40 mircea_popescu: anyway : your death is never present to you, because for while you're here, it is not yet, and once it is, you are no more.
mircea_popescu: a nude call is a call that is not dressed. by parts : a call is an act of judgement, what's normally called "an expert call". when you produce through human heuristic a result that'd better be good enoughy because it's all there is.
mircea_popescu: whether it's nude or dressed discusses the pacification of society. common man tends to be (through herd socialisation) ... "upset" by nudity.
mircea_popescu: (btw since stuprum, stupeo was mentioned, let's point out to trinque that the ancient word for rape actually denotes the very benumbment in question.)
mircea_popescu: no, nude isn't a pejorative, it's not better to be dressed than naked.
mircea_popescu: moreover, the fact that folk are "stuck" operating on windows/other tiling wm "all the time" is really no excuse to smash your stack, as in
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform omfg you're going to be an unwashed pop-statistician now too ?!
mircea_popescu: look here : risk, as a statistical concern, and phenomenology, as a discrete history of the world, are entirely separate domains.
mircea_popescu: it's one thing to say "most black people are uneployed". it is another thing to say "this man is unemmployed because black"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform both the "milimort" nonsense and the "operate on own deaths" nonsense do. and it's not coincidental, you evidently build this crap on top of itself.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'd guess you pivoted the definition. "milimort nonsense" refers to the ridiculous pretense that statistics discusses discrete events ; it is not a proposition that statistical aproaches to risk management are infeasible or their lingo inacceptable.
mircea_popescu: i barf at the idea that you dicking around with a statistical model has allowed you to cogently discuss the actual events.
mircea_popescu: "oh, i spend all my time counting milimorts so i know a lot about death"
mircea_popescu: gtfo, by the same token elliot knows a lot about fucking ; and the exact-copies of him in charge of the circus act that in the us passes for finance now that the arabs have entirely decapitated it know a lot about bankruptcy
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you aren't reasoning about IT. you're reasoning around it.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: not homework question. kid is entry level linux engineer and was like "this keeps returnngin full bytes. it won't copy"
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller don't be the messenger. kid can gpg like anyone else.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they didn't, nor do i, nor does anyone capable of thinking.
mircea_popescu: that it's present to you dun mean it's present to them.
mircea_popescu: which is why "life" scarcely prepares one for leadership.
mircea_popescu: usefully at the destruction of correctly is pretty much the "western world" example.
mircea_popescu: the field is not "argument from authority or argument from induction"
mircea_popescu: no example is required to decide any dispute. the example is a teaching tool, not a reasoning tool.
mircea_popescu: what's "manipulation" to do with it ? if you claimed you sat down to have tea with some complex numbers, i'd point out the batshit insanity of that notion just like above, yes.
mircea_popescu: but i am starting to udnerstand why ~any math phd i ever encountered has major social function issues.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a man who is a plumber is not by this measure "a plague victim". yes, the man works in shit all day. but : he does the work in shit with shit tools, and then he presumably eats with eat tools. he doesn't mix the two.
mircea_popescu: there's a long history of playing fast and loose with domain before one arrives at this wretched state where he "prefers complex numbers".
mircea_popescu: the notion that one "prefers death" is very similar to "cut me e length of rope"
mircea_popescu: yes, "obvicously" what's "meant" is an approximation. then through practice that obvious goes away, much like rubber gloves one never changes or reviews,
mircea_popescu: yes, but it induces a whole slew of shit that then passes for thought.
mircea_popescu: you can't prefer among a set with cardinality less than two, that's why. sure, your identity may require you to not do x. this is fine, BUT IT IS ALSO NOT A PREFERENCE. it's your identity.
mircea_popescu: the buddhist monk rescuing scorpion koan is directly linked here.
mircea_popescu: if identity is in fact "a set of deep habits" then you are a woman in the greek sense of that term ; and moreover i have nfi why you wouldn't be happy in the inca state.
mircea_popescu: i do, but to quote myself, "Grecii sunt scutul, nu sulita, ca de obicei exact altfel, exact invers, exact pe dos decat ne asteptam noi, in convingerea noastra ca i-am inteles. Si ca de obicei, au dreptate."
mircea_popescu: but for everyone else, identity is a deductive result, which is why there can't be such a thing as "an example of you"
mircea_popescu: which is why it takes man his entire life to find out who he is.
mats: if there are any folks still looking to exit their s.nsa holdings, i would like to discuss buying your shares
mats: and on a similar subject, do you folks suppose there'll delivery of cardanos this xmas?
shinohai imagines mats making keyserver tied to s.nsa
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2016-08-27 17:53 shinohai imagines mats making keyserver tied to s.nsa
mod6: <+mats> if there are any folks still looking to exit their s.nsa holdings, i would like to discuss buying your shares <+asciilifeform> mats: i would buy yours if i had in what to put. << looks like he's trying to buy, not sell.
☟︎ mod6: it'd be cool if we had or own TMSR orderbook.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski You would be pround to know I am now that asshole who brings his own oil to quick change place and tips the labor.
BingoBoingo: As plasticar approaches 200,000 miles I kinda wanna see if 300,000 is possibru
BingoBoingo: ~later tell pete_dushenski You would be pround to know I am now that asshole who brings his own oil to quick change place and tips the labor.
danielpbarron: the command character is still being sorted out i think, and ! also triggers gribble who apparently still takes orders even though muted
shinohai: > is command until I can apply lobbes fix
jhvh1: shinohai: Error: "is" is not a valid command.
jhvh1: shinohai: Current Blocks: 427118 | Current Difficulty: 2.1737548275723764E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 427391 | Next Difficulty In: 273 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 22 hours, 8 minutes, and 27 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None
a111: Logged on 2016-08-27 20:26 mircea_popescu: which algo ?
a111: Logged on 2016-08-27 20:22 asciilifeform: in other lulz, invoking, md5 hash, using microshit winblowz api, apparently only saves ~half of the lines it takes to write the algo from scratch...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not newsworthy per se, it's the aparatchicks boiling and festering over some means of jumping ship
BingoBoingo: "On weekend nights, I took a few shots from my vodka bottle and set out on walks around the town, desperately hoping that I would stumble across some opportunity to make friends. I often ended up sitting alone at some café, hoping girls would talk to me before I sobered up." << Doing it wrong. SHould have drank the whole bottle.
mircea_popescu: it's clear to them survival depends on switching over to china - this boat they've managed to sunk.
mircea_popescu: it's yet unclear to them that china already has its own class.
mircea_popescu: ideally, if the chinese govt would just give them money to keep doing what they're doing.
mircea_popescu: dude, who the fuck cares about all that ? not elliot. he cares about what he WANTS
mircea_popescu: absolutely nothing more at all not in the slightest bit ever, at all.
mircea_popescu: they write "news" in theguardian about how the chinese should give them moar attentions, and a car.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes, but what he says he does and what he actually does are not so related. he only goes to the streets he'd be going.
mircea_popescu: ie, theguardian. sure, "because we saw chinese people there once", if you prefer this because. and if you'd like another, he got others. what ain't changing is teh fucking guardian.
BingoBoingo: "Their names were Ryan and Angel, and to my dismay they were of Hispanic race." << Gardening 101: to kill scale bugs use potassium soap, to kill fungi use copper soap, to kill Anglotards use sopapillas
BingoBoingo: "James became deeply disturbed by my anger. I wished that he wasn’t disturbed. I wished he could be a friend that felt the same way about the world that I did. But he wasn’t that kind of person. He was a weakling." << Twu Wuv
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: BTCChina BTCRMB last: 3790.93, vol: 73664.99830000 | Volume-weighted last average: 3790.93
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Error: "ty" is not a valid command.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: You're missing a command. ">ty" should be answered with "You are very welcome Daddy"
jhvh1: You are very welcome Daddy
shinohai: also haz an experimental >bash script
jhvh1: Last 4 lines bashed and pending publication
mircea_popescu: shinohai why does your bot sound like a submissive streetwalker ?
shinohai: gotta learn that variety speak