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asciilifeform: hanbot: orig 'v' was an asciilifeform torture room item, but it was other folx who made it actually useful ( mircea_popescu -- conceived a philosophical foundation for it, conceptually; ben_vulpes -- documented; mod6 et al -- reimplemented , and filled missing pheature holes ; trb users -- battlefield-tested; phf -- keccakized; etc )
a111: Logged on 2019-02-24 06:53 mircea_popescu: all the recurrent "look how well this works out, except it only works out because the item was there, you couldn't have computed WHEN I WROTE IT that this is how it'll be useful, nor do you have the time or resources when it'd be useful to re-produce the thing in the past you should've marked" is entirely about this.
hanbot: mircea_popescu so it does. but i mean, "the idea behind this"? what if one's looking for -the- this?
hanbot: asciilifeform do you have a url handy for your original, absolutely first-ever post on V? i'd like to link to it. (and while i'm at it, mircea_popescu why doesn't http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-releases-v-for-victory/ link to it?)
nicoleci: mircea_popescu: nicoleci kitten, check out latest comments, local troll dug out the linkedin of this lulzcow. write to them, say hi an' tell 'em your master ordered you to << this is done - i messaged him as ordered. :)
lobbes: heya mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hey, rms's bolix
a111: Logged on 2014-07-19 03:17 mircea_popescu: there for all eternity, to confront generations of bright teenagers that'll take about five minutes to figure out she's a furniture, and maybe not torture her for it. maybe.
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu covered this , in http://btcbase.org/log/2014-07-19#761495 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-23 17:23 asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu has this piece , where rms as lev trotsky, 'troo left believer' surrounded by the usual swarm of cynical grifters who inevitably come to put proboscis into 'troo believer' as surely as flies to shit
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to this very day trinque-style plane runs on 100 octane cum pb. there's a filling station for these not far from where asciilifeform stands .
a111: Logged on 2018-01-24 19:56 mircea_popescu: !!rate nanotube -1 took the blue pill at some point prior to the republic, chasing the tenure dream somewhere lost in the imperial wastes.
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu has this piece , where rms as lev trotsky, 'troo left believer' surrounded by the usual swarm of cynical grifters who inevitably come to put proboscis into 'troo believer' as surely as flies to shit ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in this light, the current (yes, still exists...) zombie of soresforge, where mostly hosted winblows .exe , and scriptically-infested with $trojan-of-the-day on ea. download, aint much of surprise
a111: Logged on 2019-02-23 15:18 mircea_popescu: hanbot asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/iloUK/?raw=true
a111: Logged on 2018-09-29 23:35 mircea_popescu: but as far as the foundation is concerned -- if all it does (ALL IT DOES!!!) is stand up to tell me "oh, we can't follow the keccak because reasons" ima put an end to it in short order.
a111: Logged on 2016-03-28 13:11 mircea_popescu: upon consideration, i see no reason to continue supporting or otherwise encourage kakobrekla's bizarre worldview. on the contrary, i view further involvement with the nonsense as considerable moral hazard, and a miserable thing to do altogether.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phunphakt, in '07 asciilifeform naively tried to get a repo hosted there. was ~turned down~
a111: Logged on 2019-02-21 03:05 mircea_popescu: There were functions named g() and o() <<< bwahahaha.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: loox pretty good imho
a111: Logged on 2018-11-09 14:39 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu do you know this fella ? http://dan.corlan.net 'Alexandru-Dan Corlan, MD, PhD' 'stochastic models of patient evolution and pharmacologic response' 'high performance computing and programming in R, Ada and CommonLisp'
hanbot: mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/By0G8/?raw=true
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suspect the tards have nfi what is or could be 'sane stack' even if it bit'em. comical to watch, rather like a nigerian forger who dun know what colour benjie is even supposed to be
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's a coupla of these 'going' atm
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i got 1 better, in ameri-schooling they still peddle w. r. hearst's fiction re 'the maine'
asciilifeform: nope, it's the item mircea_popescu did full postmortem on, linked above
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc 'suckless' == cat-v
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my dig confirms
asciilifeform: oh hey wb mircea_popescu
asciilifeform wonders if that's where mircea_popescu went, to watch from front row..
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you can muster the juice, wainot try an' wake him . iirc mircea_popescu has a ~100% 1shot 1kill record for these.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is the quoted item bellard ? or sumbodyelse
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lang that quietly locks ~errything behind yer back, whether you wanted or not, does tend to run 'at speed of 1 core', a la python
a111: Logged on 2019-02-21 01:45 mircea_popescu: but the ensemble will not move at the speed of a single core will it ?
a111: Logged on 2019-02-20 15:02 mircea_popescu: trinque did you ever see the guy irl lately ? say this year or something ?
a111: Logged on 2017-03-30 14:38 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i will also nitpick : 'erlang' does not belong in the list, it was a 1980s product that worked quite well in its industrial niche (large telco switches) but was later stolen and used as a totem by the folx from yesterday's thread ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1633873 )
a111: Logged on 2015-06-22 21:22 mircea_popescu: ascii_field this goes right into our discussion about how the only reason lisp is ok where c is shot is that the hordes haven't sat on lisp but on c, would have been the other way around if they had sat the other way.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hey it's approx how microshit's 'rng' worx
asciilifeform: we dun lack the 'how' ; if mircea_popescu commissions an iron, i'ma draw up an iron. q is how to massage to pay itself.
asciilifeform: imho if anyone can conceive of just how, it's mircea_popescu
a111: Logged on 2017-04-09 23:14 mircea_popescu: "who do you think will win, mr 13, the team with two guys and monkeys or the team with three guys and monkeys ?"
asciilifeform: and , mircea_popescu , this is just the needle point on the tip of retardation iceberg.
asciilifeform: but i think i get mircea_popescu's pt
mircea_popescu: i mean, "<asciilifeform> nao it resembles minix, 100x the mass of the original, and ~less~ function" <mircea_popescu> yeah, but it's in ruby, or w/e the fuck unity.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-20 15:41 mircea_popescu: it seems rather obvious that the 2020-2025 republican future will consist of a whole lotta http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897560 http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897468 etc as we unwind the "optimizing" part in http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897829 and discover a whole lotta http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897689 and http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897536
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: seaforth dead ??
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: asciilifeform's observation is that all historic attempts at 'pure (b)' were gimped by low expectations from iron, on acct of author's lifelong crippling experience with shit irons
asciilifeform: the unix 'tower of layers', nominally separable, is spurious ( but mircea_popescu knew this ).
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in pctardation land, it's a consequence of the (massively failed, historically) attempt to hack around the fact that erry peripheral has free run of entire bus
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it isn't entirely same problem
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in practice, given static link, it's duplicated 9000 times, rather than single.
asciilifeform: at some pt before upstack thrd gets lost in the sands of time -- would like to see mircea_popescu's ex cathedra pov re http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-20#1898145 , when he has the time ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wouldn't this require a thiel to show up to bankroll $kid's suit ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thiel killing gawker, sure ; rando kid vs volkischer beobachter ? will be odd if it dun get 'appealed' for 25 yrs, until $kid dies of hunger
asciilifeform: the benighted folx who 'wai is mircea_popescu so eager to hit us with spiked club', i can tell they never cell cultured.
asciilifeform: funnily enuff asciilifeform was just recently describing to pet , how mircea_popescu's pesticide worx, and finally clicked when i 'recall cell culture ? when yer growing eukaryotes, you add antibiotic, or guess what dish will be full of next day' ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-20 16:37 mircea_popescu: actually when Mocky_ is done with qatar history, maybe he regales us with a summarized java history ~from inside~ on his blog.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-20 16:26 mircea_popescu: THAT is what it hinges on.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i also ignored. but imho it's an interesting entomological case.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-30 04:53 mircea_popescu: !!rate zx2c4 -1 moron
a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 07:29 mircea_popescu: !!rate verisimilitude -1 children, seen and not heard.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-20 15:43 mircea_popescu: whether that can be remedied in a group or not remains, i suppose, to be seen.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 16:10 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i very much don't expect you want the prb 12 that is emacs. rewrite yes ? :D
a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 15:12 mircea_popescu: well, either that or they o(N) + n log n for some values of N, n.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 14:49 mircea_popescu: see, engineers are worse than whores. a whore might pretend like she's not working, but an engineer does inept shit like "/* This should optimize out, but it is wise to make sure this assumption is correct. Should these have different sizes, we cannot cast between them and the overlaying onto ERRATIC will not work. */" so as to ~pretend~ like he doesn't see WHY exactly he wants to take that code out. seriously, ooga-booga-bu
a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 15:22 mircea_popescu: holy shit, EVERY SINGLE THING. look here :
a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 23:24 mircea_popescu: actually ada not having a backend can (and probably will) hide all sorta surprises.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-20 04:54 mircea_popescu: "as a language, it requires you to specify in great detail what you do not know in order to obtain the experience necessary to learn it."
asciilifeform: guten morgen mircea_popescu
a111: Logged on 2019-02-12 15:39 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i associate shitoverflow with articles like 'how do i cast 'fireball' in real life?' ( actual find )
a111: Logged on 2019-02-19 04:56 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nice! pic is quite crisp huh.
trinque: howdy mircea_popescu
a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 15:50 mircea_popescu: some time to look at things and consider matters will be needed ; but i specifically want to hear something from asciilifeform ave1 bvt diana_coman phf spyked trinque
a111: Logged on 2019-02-14 07:45 mircea_popescu: trinque let me know how close i got.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: apu is something rather like a x64 rk.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: apu wins substantially on 1 score -- it can eat ~3~ msata ssd's
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd still like to see the arm64 wtf resolved
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ty, will take a look shortly, 1st would like to macroexpand mircea_popescu's point
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox to make use of mircea_popescu's suggested, in log, leads for the hunt, but do not limit to it
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo mircea_popescu has point : are you gonna produce a list of spammees, or just what is it you have hands full with, and asciilifeform has to dredge the net with own hands and halt all other work ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it aint built yet, so cannot yet say 'it links'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this run is a test of bvt's 'kill weaksymbol-ism' pill
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: potentially retargetable. but currently nfi if this is a useful shortcut to 'bake a backend'
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i'm still curious what mircea_popescu thinks of as 'ada machine' << 128 bit MIPS 1, 2, 8, or 72 cores at 800, 1600, or 3200 mhz when purpose backed. Otherwise 128 bit for the UCI address space.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the other major chunk of c, is of course the gcc backend.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu did say.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thinking about it, kernel is really the starting point for 'get c the hell off the box' -- the e.g. 20% of gnat's standard lib that's in c, is in c strictly cuz of reason illustrate in http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=udp , i.e. that kernel api doesn't eat sane (e.g. bounded array) parameters, demands liquishit c-istic buffers
asciilifeform: i'm still curious what mircea_popescu thinks of as 'ada machine'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: by far biggest 'layer of c' is : the kernel.
a111: Logged on 2012-09-16 00:43 mircea_popescu: this is how we educate kids in europe
a111: Logged on 2012-09-16 00:43 Bane_Capital: mircea_popescu: Well, I wish people would educate me instead of just beating on me.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 17:37 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: plox to expand re http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897758
a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 17:16 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897750 << tested nothing. fixed, gotta be ada not c.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: plox to expand re http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897758 ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-17 16:10 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform still gotta build the ada environment ~with something~.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fix of sjlj on arm64 is actually moar urgent than arm-cuntoo, cuz sanely build ( static-musl ) ~will~ run on glibcistic linux
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: entirely. see 2d ago thrd.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cuntoo is arguably a realtime test lab for 'what does removing glibc from ~errything~ cost'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... nor is this the only instance of this kinda thing. consider e.g. https://archive.is/MxPlA#selection-14.407-2653.3
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: near as i can tell , zcx is a http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-17#1897558 , it attempts to implement multiprocess on ~all~ machines, incl. ones that dun have any support for interrupts (e.g http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-12#1895612 ) ☝︎☝︎