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asciilifeform: http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2013/09/25/countries-like-china-want-foreign-farm-land/ ☟︎
asciilifeform: a not entirely-implausible scenario, though.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sure.
asciilifeform: etc.
asciilifeform: http://www.apk-inform.com/en/news/1025846
asciilifeform: i've no conclusive evidence! i live in an entirely different failed state, on other side of atlantic ocean.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: idea was that this (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/04619a7a-5da2-11e3-95bd-00144feabdc0.html) transport project would ship the resulting goods home.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is such a thing as an agricultural equivalent of 'strip mining'
asciilifeform: west u. is a kind of mournful shithole similar to certain u.s. 'red states'
asciilifeform: center.
asciilifeform: given that, after a russian victory, the process (if actual) will likely re-start
asciilifeform: if true, it's a bit of a 'pox on both houses'
asciilifeform: (as they are presently doing elsewhere)
asciilifeform: to be farmed to exhaustion
asciilifeform: that yanukovych was in the process of selling vast tracts of land in u. to the chinese
asciilifeform: currently trying to confirm or refuse a certain interesting rumour ☟︎
asciilifeform: subject beaten to death elsewhere
asciilifeform: bankrupt, serious ethnic split, little to no history as an actual nation... dead industry
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how the fuck is the ukraine a failed state << exactly same way as the u.s.
asciilifeform: spam'n'scram
asciilifeform: (or 'million deaths is a statistic, one death a tragedy')
asciilifeform: but he might as well have
asciilifeform: (there is also no proof that stalin spoke the famous 'no man no problem')
asciilifeform: but, to 50% of russian-speaking people, she may as well have said it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'll say now that i was never able to track down an authoritative proof of this.
asciilifeform: or mrs. thatcher's 'we need no more than 15 mil. russians. to service the pipeline.' ☟︎
asciilifeform: could also mean 'biodiesel'
asciilifeform: 'colonize' doesn't have to mean 'administer british-style'
asciilifeform: or a traitor, sure of protection from his foreign master
asciilifeform: you'd have to be an idiot
asciilifeform: now a brit, french, or one of us - might agree! but who expects the chinese crown to agree.
asciilifeform: and thrown in oubliette for his troubles
asciilifeform: like that chinese fellow who wrote that his country ought to be colonized for 300 years before it can be considered 'civilized'
asciilifeform: 'orc culture 101.' in the lands of the orcs, when 'human' shows up and says 'we can have government without corruption!' what people hear is 'if we'd let the jerries win, we could be in a mercedes benz. but it isn't too late! and if we end up as the seats, that's our place'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the parasites in the summary being the various u.s. 'aid' busybodies who feast on the festering corpses of countries zapped by 'international community'
asciilifeform: 'Patton, like Douglas MacArthur, was an unfortunate mixture of personal courage, technical brilliance and toxic personality, and like MacArthur, a role model to three generations of mediocrities who equate pomp and nitpicking with excellence.'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: smash Patton with a jeep << https://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/ConspirThx.htm
asciilifeform: why not
asciilifeform: main export, unskilled labour
asciilifeform: other cases (latvia) not so hot.
asciilifeform: sure.
asciilifeform: i suppose it depends on what you think of as 'industry'
asciilifeform: did they?
asciilifeform: this is by no means an uncommon view.
asciilifeform: orlov's view seems to be that usg/nato/allies wreck countries (near east, etc.) to retard development -> to throttle resource consumption, create captive markets a la the brits at their peak, churn mil. inventory, 'controllable chaos' to feed various parasites.
asciilifeform: counter-derper: 'as the leather seats' ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: russian derper: 'if we'd let the jerries win, we'd be riding in mercedes benz now!' ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: under merkel << time for a 'joke'
asciilifeform: or rather, anti-anglo
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not exactly - mostly anti-u.s./'international community'
asciilifeform: 'make w0r in your sp4r3 t1m3'
asciilifeform: ahahaha
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cultural, educational: http://lurkmore.to/%D0%9F%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BA%D0%B0
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: not direly essential, i think i got the basic idea from your summary
asciilifeform: why the hell not
asciilifeform: as described, in great detail, elsewhere
asciilifeform: multiple generations of derps killed their predecessors, ending with a final crop of mostly-functional beings
asciilifeform: 'those were the great roaring 90s, we survived as well as we could'
asciilifeform: i do wonder what, if anything, has been heard of the Yanomami indians since that time when traders supplied them with shotguns...
asciilifeform: well, the animal is often described as having had an... inadequate reaction to predators, having lives as it did without them
asciilifeform: my first imagined picture, when reading mr. o's bit, was the demise of the dodo bird.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is correct, depending on the playing field. not everyone is inclined to build armies, though - some folks just want to kill & eat their neighbors.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: only as 'part of a balanced diet!' with a working 'Friend Or Foe' detector.
asciilifeform: given that we have public key crypto
asciilifeform: i mean, it is a deep mystery to me why it should ever remain in doubt whether 'X endorses Y'
asciilifeform: ThickAsThieves: imagine if technology were possible! he could simply whisper 'this turd will not bear my pgp signature' and be done.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: because of some intrinsic fact about the games? or mere historical happenstance?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this is an interesting point
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: remember my 'test drive' of mpex? that's all i did...
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: seems like a serious amount of work to do, simply in order to make a fair gamble.
asciilifeform: ahahaa
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: one of these days, you ought to write 'n00b guide' to sports bets. for instance, i grew up thinking of the whole concept as a chumpatron (lusers bet, the sports meisters throw matches & pocket the chumpatronium)
asciilifeform: once met a military type (american) who knew just one russian phrase, but knew it very well: 'don't shoot - i know secrets'
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: by april!
asciilifeform: 'you go to war with' the pidgin you have, not the literary language you wish you had...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but of course.
asciilifeform: well, 'first ecstasy, then laundry.'
asciilifeform: empty now.
asciilifeform: was something there?
asciilifeform: karpeles had a wife?
asciilifeform: http://pastebin.com/2QvBdNea
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1446
asciilifeform: took a break from my usual doings, wrote psot:
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: betting on a proper, long-awaited nato vs. russian shooting war is great fun, but ww3 makes it a little hard to collect.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: since you seem to take an interest in the subject: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/03/reichstag-fire-in-kiev.html
asciilifeform: perhaps when qualified 'help' materializes.
asciilifeform: but at some point, they will
asciilifeform: at the moment, the idiots daren't take advantage of this fact
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: know what's sad? with all of the bitcoin phoundation's public goatfucking, the most commonly used client remains: the one put out by them, or whatever well-connected scammer picks up the torch.
asciilifeform: it's 100% revenue maximization
asciilifeform: the point is, none of this is pushed by people concerned with actual security or whatnot
asciilifeform: this was a machine with a deliberately non-standard (40mm?) mechanical drive
asciilifeform: military bureaucrats traditionally keep this simple.
asciilifeform: (near the hdd cavity)
asciilifeform: i have a dell laptop circa 2007 lying around in some box. it has a 'hammer here' target embossed on the bottom.
asciilifeform: with different punch settings for different brands
asciilifeform: there is probably already a custom hydraulic press on the market for puncturing 'ipads' and the like
asciilifeform: rather than merely the disk, with the remainder hitting the surplus market
asciilifeform: they stand to win big from the fact of bureaucrats (government and corporate both) mandating destruction of a whole machine upon write-off
asciilifeform: incidentally, hardware vendors are 100% solid wall behind this crap