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snsabot: Logged on 2018-11-10 19:40:02 mircea_popescu: so to summarize : 1. one hour (!?) wrangling with auctionbot on the 4th (the result still wrong) ; 2. 2 hours handling three conflated processes (why do you keep notes as an intermediate step ?) on the 5th ; 3. 1 hour reading logs on the 6th ; 4. half hour reading logs on the 7th ; 5. 1.3 h mostly brainstorming on the 8th ? ; 6. half hour doing... i don't know what on the 9th ; 7. 4 (four ?!) hours doing i stil
bvt: hello. asciilifeform: answered your comment. diana_coman: the logline you were looking for seems to be this: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-03-19#1903465 , as a rephrase of http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2018-11-10#1870880 discussion
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Redwing 606 is probably as close as your local market has.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu: possibly I'll find it later as inner-indexing tends to keep working in the background after one of those anyway and pops up with the result some days from now or such shit.
asciilifeform goes to look, but -- as usual -- comes up empty
diana_coman: and I wouldn't count it as "nobody did this before" either, I think I still have some patterns in grandmother's attic ffw
asciilifeform: this makes sense. tailored, as in , fella with measuring tape, measures.
BingoBoingo: As far as sourcing materials go, this would be the place to plant a workshop.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-05#1933827 - mind stating the IP as well and as a rule for new urls please/
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-04 20:29:15 asciilifeform: for next go-around , perhaps will get sheet metal bending machine and may as well make the 1u cages from sheets also.
mircea_popescu: lobbes, i never understood that at the time, wtf, rarely new threads as interesting as old. but...
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-05 00:25:59 mircea_popescu: "nobody can remember" wikipedia's roots as ye pre-reddit pedoclub
mircea_popescu: "nobody can remember" wikipedia's roots as ye pre-reddit pedoclub
asciilifeform: dun think it needs regrind, should be good as is.
lobbes: there was an extra fix for eat_dump.py in mine as well that dealt with teh null payloadz
asciilifeform: at any rate it aint as if i dun have a 19" rack here to test-fit'em in
asciilifeform for next go-around , perhaps will get sheet metal bending machine and may as well make the 1u cages from sheets also.
asciilifeform: ( would need at least the comment knob tho, as i understand it is presently missing )
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-04#1933645 << dead as of '16 iirc
spyked: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-09-03#1933417 <-- afaik sardinian close as well, possibly even closer. some ppl say romansch also, but I listened to some and only got about 20% of it.
mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is the important part here. rewriting (as the math concept) is an important (really, the only) function of the numeric machines we have. ~only utility. and .htaccess kludge is an ad-hoc but well specified rewrite engine for the assorted glue (ad hoc and unspecified) needed to www.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 20:34:57 asciilifeform: i actually did very similar thing in phuctor ( the 'werker', c proggy that uses multiple cpu ) as of '16 does not need to know about pg, it talks to the frontend via ordinary http
trinque: (connected from same box as deedbot too)
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-09-03#1933440 << as for me, it's just cheaper than zeroing my work and starting over. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i actually did very similar thing in phuctor ( the 'werker', c proggy that uses multiple cpu ) as of '16 does not need to know about pg, it talks to the frontend via ordinary http
asciilifeform: ^ hm mircea_popescu , do you think bots oughta ignore outputs of bots ? ( i deliberately did not, as specifically requested in mircea_popescu's spec ; but it would be a trivial change )
BingoBoingo: Still, gotta go to war with the arms available as nice as it may be to got to war instead with the arms in the development lab
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm aware that it is also used as a kludge to 'naggum's bulldozer' over broken www proggies .
asciilifeform: point being, a search box query costs approx same as ordinary page load.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: phuctor lives on actual box, same as the logotron.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as you can see on my www -- allcomers. just like in e.g. phuctor.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-03 13:06:19 asciilifeform: re 'postgres' vs 'mysql' -- afaik they're entirely compatible, such as they are used in my item, with the exceptions of: 1) table indices 2) dump format.
asciilifeform: pico may as well ~= pine imho
asciilifeform once worked through a collection of icelandic tales, by third ch was approx as edible as current engl
asciilifeform: re 'postgres' vs 'mysql' -- afaik they're entirely compatible, such as they are used in my item, with the exceptions of: 1) table indices 2) dump format.
asciilifeform: btw diana_coman actually #20 contains mistake, in temp mirrors 1st set up 'nginx' as in older system, then 'apache' to compare whether made diff in re performance (it did not) . ( putting this here, rather than to spam mp's www with 9000 errata comments.. )
trinque bares his teeth as he realizes he needs to introduce his devices better!
a111: Logged on 2014-11-05 04:47 asciilifeform: as a student, i was once told by a greybeard: 'you're young, but know that you have X lines of code in you. after that - log cabin.'
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-02 04:33:14 spyked: imo it's worth trying the http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-08-23#1930317 pill; as long as the bot answers to incoming PINGs when they come, it should be fine.
asciilifeform: ( where it's utterly batshit, given as can go maybe 200km on 1 fill )
mircea_popescu: i just want it to frag correctly, treat [][] as a single word, if not fit, put in new line.
mircea_popescu: not that i see the benefit of retargetting to say python or bash ; nor does it seem sensible to do php work in cl. but as a principle.
BingoBoingo: And in truly grave signs, Argentina's beef exports are UP. As in fire sale: https://archive.is/MlajJ
mircea_popescu: are you fucking kidding me ? there's no place in europe or the us, or mexico or fucking anywhere nearly as filthy,
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> nor is it clean, in any sense. it's so fulla garbage as only india can compare. << Uruguay looks filthier than it ought to because the "Banco Provision Social" levies taxes on contructions and building work. Counted among these taxed works is... PAINTING
mircea_popescu: nor is it clean, in any sense. it's so fulla garbage as only india can compare.
BingoBoingo: ^ The pretense lasted a full 21 days before they went to to being retarded in the ways they were before. New boss, same as they old boss.
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/09/macri-begins-implementing-capital-controls-as-foreign-currency-reserves-exhaust/ << Qntra -- Macri Begins Implementing Capital Controls As Foreign Currency Reserves Exhaust
spyked: imo it's worth trying the http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-08-23#1930317 pill; as long as the bot answers to incoming PINGs when they come, it should be fine.
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/09/amazon-begins-dictating-terms-to-local-police-as-it-builds-residential-video-surveillance-network/ << Qntra -- Amazon Begins Dictating Terms To Local Police As It Builds Residential Video Surveillance Network
diana_coman: at least as long as nobody cites the bots.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-09-01 18:18:11 diana_coman: ofc the above has also as side effect that bots are now in sync re line numbers
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-01 18:33:42 diana_coman: ofc the above has also as side effect that bots are now in sync re line numbers
diana_coman: ofc the above has also as side effect that bots are now in sync re line numbers
asciilifeform: 'new jersey philosophy', right, where 'hey it's good enuff, and if turns out not, let ~others~ clean up'. same way as email 'was goodenuff', from the idjit designer's pov, until spam, then suddenly 'what's yer problem with moving to walled gul^H^H^Hgarden, terrorist, will work there as before'. ditto irc.
asciilifeform: ( lamport did not offer a 'wat-do if N parties can't agree on 'prev line'', if he had thought about this, bitcoin would have existed, at least as algo, in 1990... )
asciilifeform: ( incidentally -- as gedankenexperiment -- even 1980s irc ~could~ have been built so as to force a sync. simply force erry issued line to carry a checksum of the prev. seen. and if wrong -- you get eggog back, and asked to resend. but no one was even giving a nanoshit about 'agree on order' etc, quite obviously )
asciilifeform: possib. 'product' of the other half of same bottle of whiskey as email.
asciilifeform: irc per se as i understand is a 'dark ages' creation, before ~anyone stopped to even try to think about ~anything
mircea_popescu: we ~could~ have a rule asking bots to log themselves as they receive the echo rather than as they send the line ; but that'd only work in a sane world where it echos, afaik irc does not
asciilifeform: maybe -- not. but as i understand if the above can be had, than so -- later -- could this.
mircea_popescu: but i dunno that it extends as far as an expectation of functional retrospective backlink decorations
asciilifeform: so as to find what is even practical to consider .
mircea_popescu: so this is a reason to introduce it as standard practice for live links ?!
asciilifeform: as in e.g. phf's, where kako links display as originally witnessed, but if clicked to to phf's log.
asciilifeform: as displayed in e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2015-03-06#1044115 ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how wouldja have backlinks ( as phf had ) work ?
diana_coman: asciilifeform: yep, as I said to start with, lol.
asciilifeform fwiw has not yet manually fiddled the db in any way -- i.e. phf's imports are as they were found. the 1 'hand' fix was when dropped the botched eat of #e and reran w/ lobbes's corrected eater.py . but all url's are as-they-were atm.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-08 21:16:41 lobbes: http://trilema.com/2019/trilema-goes-dark/#comment-130823 << Seeing as the order was given to strike scriba from the list, I have also removed it from the TMSR bot directory (which means the command prefix "!$" is available again): http://lobbesblog.com/static/tmsr_bot_directory.html
diana_coman: I mean, your *bot* that got renamed weirdly as ossabot?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: take a look in your config... suddenly your box shows as 'sossabot' ??
asciilifeform: re that thrd, asciilifeform prolly will succumb to temptation to buy rubidium clock ( they're apparently laffably cheap, 100-200 bux or so, massive pile of surplus from gsm towers ) but this aint a solution as such, i aint about to ask ~erryone~ to buy one and build the 10mhz-to-pc-clock box for same. asciilifeform is simply tired of his own clocks drifting all over.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-28 21:09:04 trinque: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-27#1931384 << what's the url you want to have? possibly doable as apache-level URL rewrite
asciilifeform: nao if could think of how to cleanly fix these... to make the bot echoes actually interchangeable, as they oughta be
ossabot: Logged on 2019-09-01 04:55:56 diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-08-31#1932770 - mine is the first in the list there (103.36.92.112) but it doesn't seem to make it to top-1k providers of blocks; no idea why though, as far as I can tell it's been chugging along nicely all this time.
mircea_popescu: aaand her super great large format pics put my blog to shame, as seen on this curved meterwide display right here. damn.
trinque: asciilifeform: I used to see black bears in PA as a kid.
asciilifeform: ( imho as far as these go, not even unfounded, a. crowned, after all, gorby )
asciilifeform: food as in, what tourists throw from autos ?
asciilifeform: iirc that serpentine was built as part of 'what if war with sovok!' episode
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/my-weekend-adventure-including-the-answer-to-the-florimund-riddle-bears-how-brasov-got-itself-banned-but-romania-altogether-not-just-yet-assorted-derisions-and-aspersions-as-well-as-no-sexually/ << Trilema -- My weekend adventure. Including the answer to the Florimund riddle, bears, how Brasov got itself banned (but Romania altogether not just yet), assorted derisions and aspersions as well as no sexually explici
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-31 17:59:34 asciilifeform: from this log, it would imho not be a mistake to say that there are approx 200 boxen that could be described as btc nodes . the rest -- are https://www.oglaf.com/humans/ .
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-08-31#1932770 - mine is the first in the list there (103.36.92.112) but it doesn't seem to make it to top-1k providers of blocks; no idea why though, as far as I can tell it's been chugging along nicely all this time.
asciilifeform: ( even 'emerge' will actually work, so long as you remember not to --sync )
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Desk sitting at 592682 as well
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: zoolag at 592682 , btw, as of 1min ago.
asciilifeform: (i.e. as seen from the publicly-reachable net. )
asciilifeform: from this log, it would imho not be a mistake to say that there are approx 200 boxen that could be described as btc nodes . the rest -- are https://www.oglaf.com/humans/ .
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-30#1932622 << wouldn't even be that surprising ; freenode's about as dead as disco
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suggested mirrorism to mod6 cuz iirc it's the type of chore he's historically a++ in. as i understand lobbes is 99% of the way to 3rd logger , so not exactly burning , tru
BingoBoingo: I don't see anything other than a martial interpretation of Argentinism (Modern Democracy) at work. Rah, Rah, We R Kool and God/IMFLoans/SovereignDefault/Buitres will indemnify our tribe in the end so long as we appear to go through the motions.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: phunphakt -- in early-period israel, 'localhost surviver' wasn't considered worth to brag, it was seen (generally correctly) as ~= 'quisling'
asciilifeform: searching for 'talmudic' underpinnings of curent il is a favourite, i'm aware, preoccupation of 'armchair archaeologists', in much the same spirit as 'pedo-pizza proofs'
asciilifeform: which is to say -- not 0, but epsilon as close to 0 as you might like.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ~100% of the folx who gave rat's arse re 'talmudic tradition' went in the ovens. i.e. it has as much to do with the current 'unsinkable carrier' as the spew of thomas aquinas has to do with current usg.
BingoBoingo: Dr. Shahak covers certain aspects of the talmud/rabbinic tradition that don't get earnestly translated into English much with respect in ingroup/outgroup. Covers some specific aspects that get adopted as policy through unholy mixture of modern democracy and pre-internet missives on communications ethics.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this q never struck me as a deep mystery. angloreich gotta have its 'unsinkable carriers', israel, taiwan, south kr, etc
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: nobody ever 'internalized worthlessness', they sit around w/ wagner an' cyanide and bloviate re their 'aryan superiority' even as the tanks wind'em up onto treads
asciilifeform: as i understand , all that'd be needed to bring that shitshow to a permanent close, is a dozen or so blocks mined w/ '51%' thrust, containing the segshit unwinds.