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a111: Logged on 2018-10-05 01:53 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> afaik all you get is reverse auction (at a significant later date, once he's well done with rewriting the whole thing). << This is what I recall. Reverse auction denominated in ECU
mircea_popescu: you're in this joining me, who's similarly not seen for a few months now.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-09 19:00 mircea_popescu: lobbes forum schmorum, if you de-ecu it ima kick it off #eulora and have someone else make a different one.
mircea_popescu: for SOME REASON you seem to be waiting for a (MUCH LATER) upgrade which would permit you to advertise ~i want to buy EXACTLY X fiats AND NO OTHER SUM NO MATTERE WHAT HAPPENS!!!~.
mircea_popescu: this, as far as i can tell, is perfectly useful to pizarro as things stand now, and perfecly approachable to everyone, and a permanent solution to the record and advertisement requirements people have.
mircea_popescu: it ~seems to me~ this difference is not worth a postage stamp, if indeed i understand the description of pizarro's situation mod6 is making correctly, that is, "we have trouble finding lots of fiat to buy, not finding exact chunks".
asciilifeform: trinque what do you need to feel yerself in a civilized house of commerce instead of orc den. mod6 what do we need re fiatolade purchasing. jurov what do you need to start fucking showing up in forum.
mircea_popescu: to translate the difference between "i'm selling 8k fiats" and "i wish to buy 8k fiats" ? is the specificity of ammounts on pizarro side such a huge deal for you lot ?
mod6: After for sure. I don't have the exact date, but I'd say it was in the last week of september -- I reached out to a few people directly since I wasn't getting any takers in either #pizarro or #trielam.
trinque: and it's not as though I can't eat +-5%, but why, when learned folks have a process for narrowing those kinds of gaps, and don't need a bot to do it.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> afaik all you get is reverse auction (at a significant later date, once he's well done with rewriting the whole thing). << This is what I recall. Reverse auction denominated in ECU ☟︎
mircea_popescu: afaik all you get is reverse auction (at a significant later date, once he's well done with rewriting the whole thing).
asciilifeform: nah got that, it's to be a separate proggy iirc
a111: Logged on 2018-09-09 19:00 mircea_popescu: lobbes forum schmorum, if you de-ecu it ima kick it off #eulora and have someone else make a different one.
mircea_popescu: so if jurov has a chunk of fiat, he can offer it and pizarro can bid and i guess trinque could bid more if he wanted to. this is dysfunctional ?
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: aside from the problem where mod6 proclaimed one on 17th and nobody came forward << This is a problem
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Hand cranked auction has long history of being a thing
asciilifeform: some folx have a very heavy meatspace life ( e.g. phf ) but i'm not aware of why jurov.
trinque: I suppose all I know about jurov right now is silence, which is a related problem.
mircea_popescu: in fairness to jurov (whom, knowing the man, i can readily believe took a fx beating), wouldn't his implicit donation deserve the implicit recognition ?
trinque: I could've weighed the decision to buy against your discount, which would've put you in a better position than your deal with jurov, and meanwhile saved you from the perception that you're not all that clued in on what the forum does.
asciilifeform: trinque: entirely meant as non-flame. i like selling usd occasionally ( did first , what , 6mo of pizarro... ) but i do not have a proper algo currently.
asciilifeform: trinque: let's say you were selling usd, instead of jurov ; how wouldja pick a price ? ( serious q, i dun have what could be considered a civilized & deterministic algo presently )
mircea_popescu: you had no options other than to keep things quiet that you knew sooner or later will have to make public and also knew the people you'll make them public to will take a dim view of your keeping them secret ?
mod6: I'd love to do this a different way. I just felt like, other than alf spending money that he had saved for a possible emergency trip, we didn't have a lot of other options.
mod6: Since we were getting a bit desperate to get some fiat purchased, I offered to him to send the coins first, and he could mitigate that FX risk. We worked out the details in a PGP.
mod6: Last few months, jurov took a heavy hit on FX when he would quote us, send the wires, and then we would finally send him the coins at the end. He also was apparently butting up against some possible fiat limits.
trinque: you came to a price point with jurov where?
mod6: It was not pulled out of our "asses". We had a difficult time finding takers to sell us fiat this month. Late in the game, we came to a price point with jurov. This was the quoted amount.
trinque: I thought the point of doing business in a WoT was to avoid that kind of thing.
trinque: gotta say, I'm eventually going to cancel my service if this "we pulled the price out of our asses, and here it is" thing doesn't turn into a process somebody surfaces on a blog somewhere. ☟︎
mod6: hanbot: Thank you, I really like both of these. I don't think I would change a word. Nice job!
mod6: Yeah, I wanted to get a bit of background here before I do. On-deck next :]
mircea_popescu: i guess i gotta get that girl a real machine now, so she can actually v and stuff.
mircea_popescu: i don't see a problem. maybe could be had warmer, but not clear that can be done without elongation. terseness' is a virtue, as ~nobody reads anymore.
hanbot: ty asciilifeform. BingoBoingo also take a look?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 23:51 mircea_popescu: hanbot lend the fellows a hand ?
hanbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/KImP1/?raw=true << coupla rough drafts re http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-03#1857870 ; first specific to trustnodes wankpiece in particular, latter as a kind of generic template. mod6 ben_vulpes mircea_popescu asciilifeform et al pls to scrutinize when convenient. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i got the perfect monture supporting your summary, coming out in a few hours.
asciilifeform: may have been in a trilema
asciilifeform: or hrm possibly ~those~ aint a bug
a111: Logged on 2013-03-01 22:30 SudsyForce: Two slave brothers, one black, one an albino, discover a treasure map which is taken from them by their foreman. They take it back but are pursued by the foreman. Originally, the foreman seeks the aid of two bounty hunters who pursue the protagonists throughout the film. At the end, both the foreman and the bounty hunters catch up with the two escaped slaves, and the foreman has a change of heart, helping to kill the bounty hunters.
hanbot: can be a sorta moiety-lite
hanbot: ahaha, okay. i haven't seen the inside of a cow holding pen, no, fancy that.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't look like your house. it looks like a cow's house.
mircea_popescu: i don't expect the cows to sit on couches as a resul;t of this.
hanbot: here's a question for the forum at large as i'm thinking about the missives on my plate for today: if tbf outreach is a goal, and talking to people a primary avenue of same, given the rocky road to voice in #t these days, should the foundation host its own castle-channel?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox at your earliest convenience to pgp to asciilifeform your notes re how pizarro exit router was configged... asciilifeform is baking a pilot replacement for subj
BingoBoingo: ;tl didn't click: Picture of a "Genderbread Man" graphic
mircea_popescu: thinking about the whole it seems http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-04#1857921 is the perfectly sufficient response to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-04#1857986 crapolade : as http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-02#1857409 well points out, ALL the whole "lgbt rights" "women's rights" "civil rights" etc crapolade ever was -- A FASHION. it never had more substance than this, girls-deciding-what-hats-to-wear. there's nothing substantial ☝︎☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform did sit down and 'im'a actually read this thing! nao!'
mircea_popescu: a damn.
asciilifeform: 5.2 seems to specify as a keccak output ?
BingoBoingo: I return from a local IT business networking event. Admission and pizza were free. Everyone else was either a full stack developer who does Machine learning and e-commerce, or independent consultant of unclear purpose
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the storage's limited at iirc 200 items per category, and you can carry a further 90 or so, and well... so there's gonna be 100mn bits of flotsam out in the world ?
mircea_popescu: how thge hell is a client gonna hold 1bn items ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform cool, i get 1e12 accounts! what's a collision do iyo ?
asciilifeform: ( and it it's a mere 32bit, still seems possible for enemy to create collisions but registering 1e12 accounts and waiting for the desired 32bit id )
mircea_popescu: (more of the same old "omfg nobody gives a shit about our inconsequential nappy headed ho club ?!?!?!?!")
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/2018/euloras-communication-protocol-restated/#comment-126814 << my puzzlement is in re the item where you're still using keccak as a crc
asciilifeform: bought already iirc a coupla times. eventually will go to same glue factory as 'livejournal' etc
mircea_popescu: anyway, naked pics outliving in the public sphere the woman pictured seems morally dubious, exactly in the vein of old margo channing acting a "25 yo, age's unimportant -- [AS LONG AS SHES TWENTYSOMETHING!!!]".
asciilifeform: oh hey, finally a heathnlink that doesn't die in ~months
mircea_popescu: what a day that was, april 3rd 2014.
a111: Logged on 2014-04-03 13:30 asciilifeform: truffles: it was a minor subplot. they find these critters on jupiter, living in the gas, and decide to study them. by building a machine which transforms people into them, so they can see what their life is like. and then, for years, no one returns to be converted back. eventually one fellow comes back. and tells how much more fun it is than being human. end result: mankind vanishes, converted to lopers.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a critter in an old b00k : http://btcbase.org/log/2014-04-03#601590 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: kinda lulzy how june 2014 gets to count as ancient in my head some point on or about july 2015. year-and-a-month!
a111: Logged on 2015-07-05 22:31 mircea_popescu: if that 1% doesn't feel the state like a glove, the state's gone. kinda like my ancient "the state may exist inasmuch as and for as long as i can't tell it's there."
mircea_popescu: even before the obvious "my slaves have 0 problem with no freedom, but just try and not make sense", nobody fucking ever had a problem with freedom ~as such~, because it's not fucking possible. because http://btcbase.org/log/2015-07-05#1188784 ☝︎
asciilifeform: the pre-timberniers-tardation 'let's build a web' folx, understood this
asciilifeform: and yes if errybody agreed on a sane canonical text format, and actually exported that, search becomes ~trivial
asciilifeform: the lolcatnet and the thinkingpeoplenet, living in same fabric, is a historic accident, rather like sov communal flats where physics prof lived with a furnace stoker . it's to be corrected.
a111: Logged on 2018-09-17 19:24 mircea_popescu: trinque is this something you'd be interested in doing ? expand deedbot thusly, maybe charge chans a fee ?
asciilifeform: aa in the sense of 'what sw rf spectrum loox like without a tuner' lolyes
mircea_popescu: "but mp, i know who you or mocky are, i don't know these random names!" "so ?" "so the random names are spam" "congratulations of having a wot. now try without."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, gave a look at eulora log recently ?
asciilifeform: i suspect the cap was the 'easy' bug. y'know how when educated folx bug people, they give'em 2-3 'easies', a 'medium' to make the diggers feel 'accomplished' when the find, and the 'actual' bug somewhere entirely else.
asciilifeform: somebody oughta have told'em that they oughta bug a ~diode~ instead ; it is not difficult to detect a capacitor that semiconducts inside somewhere ( it'll rectify rf ) .
asciilifeform: mod6: already submitted as qntra lulzcandidate. but whole story lulzy, the chinese folx built a vlsi-bugged filter cap and slipped it into ~errything some time around '14
mircea_popescu: yeah but we were using a "standard" figure. what's pizarro charge, i don't recall ? was it 10% ?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-03 23:51 mircea_popescu: hanbot lend the fellows a hand ?
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-03#1857870 << sure thing, i'll draft a coupla itams, expect 'em tomorrow. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: a there it is.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-04 00:29 mircea_popescu: https://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/tsla/news-headlines << check it out, nasdaq has a whole "menu" of optiopns, except no fucking way to establish market capitalization ; the only page that'd maybe do it, the (legally mandated, btw) anuyal report, http://www.companyspotlight.com/partner?cp_code=NAS1&ticker=TSLA ... times out.
mircea_popescu: so i'm saying... it's not 0, whatever the actual ratio. and if i concede a 0.1, you're still not gonna produce the 5bn hypatia.
mircea_popescu: the 2bn they burned in 2017 comes out of a ~51bn piggy.
mircea_popescu: "there's a whole list of what people said about the thing you're wanting to see ?" jesus.
mircea_popescu: https://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/tsla/news-headlines << check it out, nasdaq has a whole "menu" of optiopns, except no fucking way to establish market capitalization ; the only page that'd maybe do it, the (legally mandated, btw) anuyal report, http://www.companyspotlight.com/partner?cp_code=NAS1&ticker=TSLA ... times out. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and yet tesla got to pretend it's worth 300 a share ; and 2bn a year spending money out of the "shareholder"'s piggy. where's the mamie with 2bn to spend, i wish to see this.
mircea_popescu: let's take the 2012 tesla s lulz : 581 kW theoretical powerplant ; 100 kWh theoretical battery pack. it's like a bmw with a two ounce tank!!!
mircea_popescu: as long as "engineering" and computer pseudoscience and tesla and deeply dysfunctional entirely-not-a-chance-in-hell-of-ever-working-why-don't-you-talk-of-hp-anymore "electric" cars get money... on what grounds can you deny it to irigaray and her brood ?
mircea_popescu: the logic is sound, if you think it through : "we fat sexually worthless females, in a word we the mamies, have the following grievance : back when the clever boys discovered new lands and made train engines, you priviledged them for this reason. now -- they do not. why can't we also have the payola they get ?" "uhm..." "and if you don't like this simple formulation, we can add 10mn words of rephrasings ?" "fuck"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu had a piece re termites.
mircea_popescu: nah. as a result of, no moneys.
BingoBoingo: Meanwhile a couple journals, a couple "centers of study", and a book series has been reduced to... a book series
BingoBoingo: 14 down to 7 in a decade
mircea_popescu: the notion that the 1920s produced a whole lotta churchgoers is exactly of the same cloth as the notion that the 2000s produced a whole lotta academics, "discourse", "awareness" and what have you.
mircea_popescu: so the notion that somehow it could be undone by meaning... item exists economically. all the women "liberated" from depending on a male are still just as dependent. much like all the slaves "liberated" from slave owner are just as much slaves.
mircea_popescu: the whole thing is basically social payments extension. there's a lot of idle schmuycks who expect to get government freebies under the title of "doing" this crap.
asciilifeform: i recently got hold of local uni's 'student newspaper', it apparently consists ~100% by weight nao of 'police report : someone wrote 'nigger' on a whiteboard' . ☟︎