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Framedragger: mircea_popescu: everything except sadmods so
as not to upset phuctor too much. need to discuss frequency of caching with asciilifeform i think
BenBE: mircea_popescu: No only PHP, but also C/C++, Java, web stuff, ASM (mostly x86/x64), Haskell, shell scripting, ... Also,
as we are at WoTs:
https://keybase.io/benbe BenBE: You mean WOT
as in Web-of-Trust?
deedbot: DBCDD109DEB2BF7812D6056F3E26EAC5AE73583E registered
as BenBE.
mircea_popescu: and especially
as a small and high mommentum entity you DO NOT want to go chasing any "large investment upfront payout way later" deals. so much "low investment payout over time in exponential fahsion" holes still available.
BenBE: mircea_popescu: I planned on DSA/ECDSA, but that's quite low on the priority list right now. Attack on both works somewhat different and requires data collection not
as easily obtained
as with RSA.
shinohai suddenly remembers cocaine has properties that make it almost
as effective
as dick pills .....
a111: Logged on 2017-04-09 02:34 danielpbarron: shinohai, no i would not. might be adult swim bidding it up
as a promo. On related note, wendy's fastfood chain is helping some highschool kid break world record retwats to promote their "chicken" nuggets. more than a million bots obliged in one day. goal is 18 million
BenBE: Are the keys mentioned in the stats somehow available
as e.g. one big PGP dump file each?
jurov: ben_vulpes:
as they say - "moved networking to own thread. now i have two problems."
danielpbarron: shinohai, no i would not. might be adult swim bidding it up
as a promo. On related note, wendy's fastfood chain is helping some highschool kid break world record retwats to promote their "chicken" nuggets. more than a million bots obliged in one day. goal is 18 million
☟︎ trinque: mircea_popescu: reads block nobody, never block. I understand the where clause of an insert statement to be a condition on a read query that gets fed into a write, just
as my "common table expressions" ('with' keyword) feed into each other.
trinque: mircea_popescu:
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/mvcc-intro.html << "Internally, data consistency is maintained by using a multiversion model (Multiversion Concurrency Control, MVCC). This means that each SQL statement sees a snapshot of data (a database version)
as it was some time ago, regardless of the current state of the underlying data. This prevents statements from viewing inconsistent
mircea_popescu: i would characterise it
as "they got confused on their own terminology and backported orphan chains into the story"
Framedragger: i wonder how you'd categorise the 'affect heuristic'
as kahneman et al. call it.; i.e., when you make decision with at least partial influence of current emotion. it's very *fast* (thereby falls under kahneman's type 1). ridiculous scenario where it's useful: i'm chased by tiger, see two paths in woods, one has sign 'DANGER' in red, i don't have time to even parse word without making decision,
mircea_popescu: Framedragger reflexes are not a proper subject of this discussion, seeing how we're discussing "thinking"
as in, brain phenomena.
mircea_popescu: and to link it to blogging : the point of blogging (daily!) is that it forces an easy and painless transition from type 2 to type 1 in the heads of the practitioners. there's no promise
as to the rate of conversion, but then again that's the best you can get for painless.
mircea_popescu:
as a general rule, people who can't produce genus/difference definitions for all the symbols in their own output are better off not thinking yet,
as what they think thinking is isn't.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: no, let's also de-equivocate think. there's two kinds of think, one's a forge/reflow/examination of trees resulting in analytical consumption of inputs with actionable outputs guaranteed ; the other is a neurotic behaviour perhaps best described
as spinning, whereby specific emotional triggers / detriggers are visited in succession. the prussian model was never concerned with the former in any sense, but merely aimed to elimi
☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: it's important to de-equivocate dumb ; there's two kinds of machine that may be casually referred to
as dumb : one that is very slow (eg, z80) / one that is very demanding on the programmer (eg, windows). good programmer wouldn't really call z80 dumb, bad programmer wouldn't really call windows dumb. this directly translates to humans, there's a kind of dumb the incompetent identify mostly disjunct from the kind of dumb the c
danielpbarron: will be interesting to see if my unopened 5.5 cd1 is the same bitwise
as the one in the above mentioned deed
trinque: when we get it to work, all, far
as I'm concerned
danielpbarron: i was voiced obviously, but maybe deedbot had reconnected since then, and didn't see me
as authed anymore?
trinque: I'm of course shooting in the dark
as to what happens when in what you have.
Framedragger: you are presenting a false dichotomy consisting of {current phuctor; $multi-mil db setup}. you propose to escape it by writing new db
as the only way to escape it.
Framedragger: bandwidth required for the www box would be ~same
as what's currently needed from phuctor.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: the parallel to "this is how winblowz blew up" breaks, imho, if you consider the splitting-off of www not
as an addition, but
as actual splitting-off, i.e., the box with phuctor on it may no longer have a www interface (just an option, i know you may be against it). if you picture it that way, it's more about modularisation vs. fixing and inflating a single monolithic thing.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 14:48 Framedragger: the 'www side can live on another server, even' degree of separation may be most easily achievable (given lack of resources to rewrite everything
as of now) via pg notify / streaming replication. but maybe asciilifeform would insist that this is 'marrying the db'
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 14:45 trinque: without this separation the idiocies of www will creep in, such
as "must respond to user accurately and *now*"
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 14:44 trinque: mircea_popescu: more clearly stated, I do not see a www
as part of the algorithm of phuctor. it is one source of input where there could be many, and one output idem. with a clearly defined line between www and phuctor (even allowing for that www may require cached copies of phuctor data to operate properly), this gives you something you can nuke later and replace.
Framedragger: the 'www side can live on another server, even' degree of separation may be most easily achievable (given lack of resources to rewrite everything
as of now) via pg notify / streaming replication. but maybe asciilifeform would insist that this is 'marrying the db'
☟︎ trinque: meanwhile asciilifeform has no business adopting sql perversions
as tools of thought; it would be demeaning
trinque: without this separation the idiocies of www will creep in, such
as "must respond to user accurately and *now*"
☟︎ trinque: mircea_popescu: more clearly stated, I do not see a www
as part of the algorithm of phuctor. it is one source of input where there could be many, and one output idem. with a clearly defined line between www and phuctor (even allowing for that www may require cached copies of phuctor data to operate properly), this gives you something you can nuke later and replace.
☟︎ Framedragger: btw, i once screwed around with memoization in flask. iirc something can be done here
as well, asciilifeform (it may be
as trivial
as adding a decorator before the function which handles GET request)
trinque: these
as queue tables for stages of work are also useful
trinque: they are useful for calculating aggregates
as I was describing.
Framedragger: again, no, and
as per ACID, no dirty reads (*not a bad thing here*)
trinque: which is why I interact with it through means that do *not* block
as it does
trinque: yes, send me the bursts
as they happen, don't render the RSS each time
trinque: two thoughts, beyond which a look at the actual thing would be needed. 1) queues and workers, always 2) db acts
as your queue, schema reflects the stages of work
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, i on occasion do multi-row updates. such
as (lolz) recently when i made every entry of the 50k items in article db read the same thing.
Framedragger: especially
as regards *aggregated* stats (the index stats page) - so what if it lags for up to $interval
trinque: or we can just wait patiently
as phuctor toils for the republic
mircea_popescu: why's the thing sold
as "mit produces nutcase" anyway. 40 yo, what the fuck relation does college have
BingoBoingo: Not necessarily yet. Dog wagging has long tradition in US politics
as way to beat the media up with itself. "Support our troops/missiles" gambit
mircea_popescu: (no weddings were bombed, totally not the same
as aleppo etc)
mircea_popescu: Framedragger myisamchk'd the extant MYI/MYD pair, got a db file which works but is too large, had mysqldump drop it
as a .sql
mircea_popescu: anyway, im dumping teh table
as a sql and will be wanting to hack it up. but i have no tools with which to identify the CUT HERE spot
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: obama :: The Messiah for brain-dead Democrats. [ex:] No matter what he says, no matter what he does, they'll worship the great Obama. [/ex] | An acronym standing for One BigAss Mistake,America! [ex:] Q: What was the result of the 2008 election?A: OBAMA [/ex] | Has no real experience, because most of his time
as "senator" was spent campaigning for his own election to President. Is praised (10 more messages)
ben_vulpes: everything must be a pale simalacrum of something that existed
as a real item at some point
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: hm.. okay. wonder why it failed. (i guess in the future consider LONGBLOB for this (and encode/decode
as needed), but it wasn't..that large, even.. huh.)
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: SF. I have a Masamune that will sit on here
as a bot, archive all links that show up & git push them to github.
gabriel_laddel_p: Framedragger: trinque: I'm interested in ditching the web & eventually x86
as a whole, not somuch in sanitizing my crappy setup.
mircea_popescu: insanely, i am still getting a lot of www requests, so i guess i incidentally found some other issue here
as well.
Framedragger: i did! i managed to compliment him, direct him to #trilema, and (hopefully) not appear
as an idiot in one tweet
mircea_popescu: Framedragger mught
as well tell him where to show up an' thassat.
phf: "i'm what's known
as `twitter funny`. -- what does that mean? -- not funny"
Framedragger: i guess it could host /sadmods and /dupes
as well - attempt redownload every few hours? (it will only update the linked cached html in case new download is in fact successful)
mircea_popescu: (which is very good and useful
as it is, not the problem there. but gotta fix it here)
Framedragger: i sed'ed the relative urls,
as in "<a href="/">Submit GPG Key</a>", to point them to phuctor, etc
mircea_popescu: i am taking the entire table
as found on stats page and putting it on trilema.
mircea_popescu: now tell me she wouldn't be happier
as a declared slave for a republican lord ; rather than a doublespoken slave for nobody-in-particular in the stupid empire.
mircea_popescu: dat day when ben_vulpes 's pastatron allocates you UriNe
as an identifier...
trinque: "though no word was available
as to whether the agent and his female companion explored a full range of disciplinary actions on their own before the tryst was interrupted." << top kek
a111: Logged on 2017-04-06 02:27 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lulz of all time : you can get further victims
AS THEY ARE INDEXED BY GOOGLE through for instance searching for "800-00038-r08" or such strings. you get a very lulzy welcome if selecting eg "deutshc" : everything's "translation missing"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lulz of all time : you can get further victims
AS THEY ARE INDEXED BY GOOGLE through for instance searching for "800-00038-r08" or such strings. you get a very lulzy welcome if selecting eg "deutshc" : everything's "translation missing"
☟︎ mircea_popescu: for srs. this is actual data,
as opposed to the bs that someone publishes.