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trinque: isn't it rather that in observing your own ignorance on a subject, you were moved to appear here?
trinque: that was in no way a response to my question, and this isn't "lets all shitpost our feelings to signal how smart we are"
kanzure: 15:11 < kanzure> oh right he doesn't believe in fucking effort
kanzure: "and as such they're not only infinite and uncountable, but even undefined" but isn't this what calibration is for. you communicate with people because you are trying to callibrate collective goal behavior shit. ☟︎
kanzure: "I don't want anything, it's a factual observation." <-- this person is lying. he was communicating for a reason.
mircea_popescu: this machine eats the same 200 W any mouthbreather's windows eats. just, mine isn't putting any of that towards animated paper clips.
kanzure: is swinging a hammer a form of effort here? i don't know man.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-21 18:32 mircea_popescu: because no, words don't "have meanings". your meanings for ANY WORD are a function of ALL THE OTHER WORDS YOU KNOW. which is why my definitions regularily blow out english dictionaries, wikipedia and other sources of "wisdom" out of the water - i know more words, and in this knowledge i know all the words i know ~better~. infinitely and irreproducibly so.
kanzure: well i don't really know if memory has an actual size (that concept might be bullshit)-- what about retention, is that the same thing as size
mircea_popescu: or am i expected to think "designer" isn't to be interpreted to mean i can want a smart baby ? after all i can buy designer bags, of whichever kind, the only bags i can't buy being bags that ARE ANY GOOD. something like that ?
kanzure: isn't that sort of limited
kanzure: mircea_popescu: surely you don't follow the kurzweil philosophy of "sit around and wait for people to be productive on their own"?
mircea_popescu: there isn't a "for every million clay pots you get another one of the 17 symmetries". the right guys need twenty pots to find all of them. the polynesians or the africans will NEVER find them like they never found fucking madagascar.
mircea_popescu: um wasn't mine
kanzure: (except useless because he doesn't actually do anything)
asciilifeform: kanzure: civ1 lied to you: there ain't such a thing as a 'money to discovery converter' you can shovel freshly-printed benjies into, and get transgenic mighty man out
kanzure: in which case you don't get anything done
kanzure: i agree that should or shouldn't doesn't factor into it, but rate does change with intellectual effort
kanzure: ((but since you knew bitcoin people i thought you would know, but w/e, it doesn't matter.))
kanzure: i don't think he's written about it
mircea_popescu: kanzure the idea is that there's entirely no relation between shoulding and tech building. whether it should or shouldn't, it'll go at the same rate.
mircea_popescu: technology isn't "built" in that sense, from outside.
mircea_popescu: in other words : you don't have the technology to even dare hope you may create one monster per million tries. what designer babies ?
mircea_popescu: well so if you're familiar why don't you answer when asked.
kanzure: i haven't internalized your post completely so i'm not sure what you are expecting me to extract from it.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> don't be ridiculous, it's cocktail flu. << The doctor prescribes Bloody Mary x2
mircea_popescu: kanzure the model whereby you "attract funding" for "your idea" is fundamentally broken. i don't mean a little broken, i mean fundamentally broken -- it makes it impossible to actually have an idea, which is why your "attempt to find the most controversial conceivable notion" ended up with "what bit of fashionable nonsense could i waste my life with in the optimisitc but ultimately baseless hope it'll be worthy my or anyone's
kanzure: mircea_popescu: correct. i've looked at it just now but i don't see how it changes anything. shouldn't you prefer people to be hard workers, even if they can't own property?
mircea_popescu: i take it you don't know you never read http://trilema.com/2016/i-am-firmly-against-universal-franchise/ ? and don't know you should have read it ? and so on ?
asciilifeform: evidently that ain't enough, or, e.g., software would work
a111: Logged on 2017-08-28 16:16 asciilifeform: shinohai: 'What's the latest on Mircea? I've not heard about him in a while.' 'I think his followers actually kind of excommunicated him after he lost their bitcoins. I don't pay much attention to them though.' << didjaknow !
mircea_popescu: don't be ridiculous, it's cocktail flu.
kanzure: i don't know any hereditary magic tricks to eliminate headaches but that should be doable.
kanzure: just some guy it doesn't matter
kanzure: wwc1 t/t carriers tend have >19% improvement in working memory performance
kanzure: anyway, you don't need to focus merely on small mutations, you can also voluntarily delete chunks of chromosomes or whatever ☟︎
asciilifeform: i can't speak for him, but i only very vaguely know you, kanzure , through n-th degree meatspace .
kanzure: should i be hurt that he doesn't know me?
shinohai: Some people shouldn't be allowed to think.
asciilifeform: shinohai: 'What's the latest on Mircea? I've not heard about him in a while.' 'I think his followers actually kind of excommunicated him after he lost their bitcoins. I don't pay much attention to them though.' << didjaknow ! ☟︎
danielpbarron: i don't wanna spoil the surprise just yet. let's see if she shows up
mircea_popescu: lol wait what, "kicked off tor" ? isn't that what tor's for ?
mircea_popescu: teh very respectable southern poverty law center. and i bet you bitcoin to donuts they didn't actually pay jack for it, either. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: but in any case prolly safe to say that the problems of the westerners were solitude, and inferiorty complex v-a-v majesty of nature. couldn't give less of a shit re "problems of society" for lack of one, or any desire for one. certainly the women had the healthy "if there's a cock i'm sticking in into me" attitude.
mircea_popescu: ie, this ridiculous retrospective rewriting of old west history whereby "the women" were somehow trying to make tombstone into cambridge (a ridiculous pile of pretense perhaps best exemplified by "ride a crooked trail") is just that : ridiculous retrospective rewriting. earlier bout of the whole "what happened ain't what happened ; what happened is what jew said happened".
mircea_popescu: wasn't my impression
asciilifeform: tat wasn't exactly gorbachev, retiring to his knee pain and pizza ads
mircea_popescu: tell you what : people who can get it up get it up, and fuck the whores. people who wait for preconditions still can't get it up even should the specifically-chosen-to-be-unsatisfiable preconditions somehow magically got satisfied.
mircea_popescu: isn't that exactly what retires means ? give up any actual involvement to focus on verbiage instead ?
mircea_popescu: i expect one of the smarter kids, figured out he doesn't meet table stakes and retired early.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-27 15:35 asciilifeform: ( interestingly, we don't get shown which 'derealization' exactly the 'tru man' character ends up descending into. left to imagination. )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-27#1703695 << to quote the definitive formulation of this particular bit of post ww2 new-us-soviet propaganda (delivered by cagney in the roaring twenties), "there's a new kind of setup you don't understand. guys don't go tearing things apart like we used to. people try to build things up. that's what lloyd's trying to do. in this new setup... you and me don't belong." ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-12-07 15:31 asciilifeform: man in a nuthouse. he cowers in the corner, won't let anyone come near, in very odd pose. finally the d00dz in white coats come. they ask:
a111: Logged on 2017-08-27 07:33 tardigrade: ain't no taint. rule no 1, I get it, I truly believe. aargh it's that just none of the prb lot do. it's exhausting. sorry to whine
asciilifeform: ( interestingly, we don't get shown which 'derealization' exactly the 'tru man' character ends up descending into. left to imagination. ) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "don't waste your energy sending strong jabs into this dude's block, his wrists are made for soaking up joules", for instance.
mircea_popescu: mcgregor isn't like you know, man on the street nobody in teh mma world.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes dude is forty ffs. if your precious mma trainings can't help you beat up an old boxer, wtf was it for.
ben_vulpes: bitcoin exists, it is what it is, it ain't going anywhere or changing significantly, best to spend your cycles skating towards where the puck will be which are the death throes of the fiat socialist megastate
mircea_popescu: and i don't mean a little colder. 17 vs 23 celsius, that's almost 10 f
tardigrade: ain't no taint. rule no 1, I get it, I truly believe. aargh it's that just none of the prb lot do. it's exhausting. sorry to whine ☟︎
tardigrade: privacy: oh we must introduce mimblewimble to prb so the usg goons can't chase us (for our 1.234 btc holdings). because there's tile in bitcoin, you see - despite there not being
tardigrade: and that's been great for holding anything off really. just don't fork.
ben_vulpes: lol don't blow your thirty minutes drafting an answer to that now
mircea_popescu: you can't have cool females without cool males, what are they, martians ? female maturation occurs under male pressure. no pressure, everyone's a pedo and doesn't even know it, fucking 30yo 6yos.
mircea_popescu: anyway. there isn't anyone that'd figure out anything ; but that's ok, principally because the world that'd have been figured out by better men is long gone anyway.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes but that's my point, isn't it. those guys are going to figure out... what ? that if you pay her 80 bux she'll sit on your cock instead of thew barstool ? hurray for figuring outs, wherever they may roam.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-27#1703521 << word! original "la scandal e zero ; nu da cu pumnu', da mesaj". ie, "he's worthless in a fight, won't hit you with his fist, will hit you with an sms" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: she didn't get that idea from the locals. she got that idea interacting with the idiotic gringo retirees and watching cnn/twitter on her cellphone.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-27 04:01 ben_vulpes: pantsuits have no idea how detached from reality they're becoming. excuse me, legacy? according to you in the first case, he doesn't have a legacy, and in the second case his legacy can only exist in the minds of the kinds of people who /elected arpaio like three times in a row/, and for whom his actions are glorious greatagain material.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-27#1703488 << i don't expect they understand anything past you know, "words are what you put in the advertising pizza". ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-27 04:36 BingoBoingo: WIN >> "Recently, I was frustrated at a locksmith. I had come to his storefront twice during business hours and he was closed, even after I’d gotten hold of him on the phone. I left an overly polite, perturbed voicemail. Then I called again a minute later thinking I might get him — I still needed a key copied. No answer. I get a call a moment later from an unknown number." ... "He called back. He kept calling me a fucking faggot. I t
BingoBoingo: WIN >> "Recently, I was frustrated at a locksmith. I had come to his storefront twice during business hours and he was closed, even after I’d gotten hold of him on the phone. I left an overly polite, perturbed voicemail. Then I called again a minute later thinking I might get him — I still needed a key copied. No answer. I get a call a moment later from an unknown number." ... "He called back. He kept calling me a fucking faggot. I t ☟︎
ben_vulpes: also he's a deplorable, they don't know anything else about him
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Isn't it amazing that the pantsuits are so happy to ignore Sheriff Joe being an 85 year old man.
ben_vulpes: pantsuits have no idea how detached from reality they're becoming. excuse me, legacy? according to you in the first case, he doesn't have a legacy, and in the second case his legacy can only exist in the minds of the kinds of people who /elected arpaio like three times in a row/, and for whom his actions are glorious greatagain material. ☟︎
trinque: as yet, hasn't done much of anything in houston, though I think I slept through a wave of rain last night. corpus christi and surrounding areas got a pounding.
BingoBoingo: If pantsuit kills Trump on this they won't have anything left to take
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> could have called it to get the illicit immigrants out of berkeley, also << And on this point INS is scaling up enforcment, can't National Guard while they can scale up unless salable "crisis".
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> nor the 'judges'. << Pardon theology doesn't work that way.
hanbot: does mircea_popescu assert you can't suspect someone of something without knowing a plausible motive?
BingoBoingo: Can't https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKjc8IfzzMM
BingoBoingo: In the school of Causes and Purposes Hegel is the progenitor of evil, but not cool like a devil or anything. More of a lame, bitter clerk who can't walk good.
BingoBoingo: Because Hegel was a fucktard. Because "German Idealism" isn't a way to model the world as the world is neither German nor ideal.
mod6: Next question: If you are white, you can't complain about racial harrassment. True or False.
mircea_popescu: unless she's set up for that, it won't be worth the time saved.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> i don't recall this wonder. << me either. looking...
mircea_popescu: i don't recall this wonder.
mircea_popescu: hurr durr, "those other people are isolated because our internet consists of google amazon and facebook and we don't look outside herpa derpa"
asciilifeform: http://archive.is/e38Qx << what asciilifeform has ( iirc there was a thread about this item, but can't seem to find )
asciilifeform: you wouldn't want to arc weld decorative silvers
mircea_popescu: i removed, in this order : one layer caulk (no, really, it won't hold silver ?) ; one layer superglue ; and an unidentified oldest layer which i suspect might actuallty be flour-and-water.
BingoBoingo: US city doesn't have $100B to burn except in inflatolade
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it doesn't extend to charlottessville. it's mostly a queens and brooklyn thing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ain't that what the installation of 'magistrates' etc. freislers, is for
mircea_popescu: (ftr i maintain this isn't even a bad translation)
mircea_popescu: the reason people don't fuck dog/rat is principally that woman cheaper.
asciilifeform: it isn't sensitive to noise
mircea_popescu: and, of course, "that coffee meme". not http://trilema.com/2013/bitcoin-prices-bitcoin-inflexibility/ but you know, "someone". because if the muppet herders don't mention mp to the muppets therefore mp won't be 1. muppet famous and 2. won't have the herders' ass.
mircea_popescu: Going back to that coffee meme, the implied message is that 1MB is fine unless for everything else. You know substantial stuff like paying your mortgage, business deals, major capital expenditures, or paying a supplier for inventory. This just isn't the case though. Do you know anyone who pays for coffee with a bank wire? The FedWire service (run by US federal reserve) processes ~150 million bank wires annually. "