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ben_vulpes: lol
ben_vulpes: some dogs are just delightfully stupid and willing to please
mircea_popescu: aha.
BingoBoingo: He's got BOOTS!
mircea_popescu: and in today's random trilema lulz, http://trilema.com/2011/fata-isteata/
shinohai: Of possible interest to BingoBoingo, Toronto Orchestra shuts down because fatties: http://archive.is/CJ4Dx
asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/zV7P7/?raw=true
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in ~very~ vintage lulz, http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/manu.htm
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/08/us-president-trump-issues-his-first-executive-pardon/ << Qntra - US President Trump Issues His First Executive Pardon
BingoBoingo: ^ Flashpoint
mircea_popescu: ahahaha
BingoBoingo: So Trump has unleashed Bannon, Gorkha, relieving them of obligations related to actual white house attachment. As this happens he's trapped Jared and Ivanka's establishment friends in Daddy's house, and Daddy's making the rules now.
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: aaanyway. zee pantsuits have serious reason tyo be worried, in a police state the unchecked power to pardon is very dangerous.
mircea_popescu: way us works, "everyone's guilty", of nothing in particular but nevertheless. then trump's guys walk and the pantsuits are left to do 5+ years "sentencing guidelines".
mircea_popescu: a coupla years of this, the pantsuit party will be akin to 1880s russian futurists.
BingoBoingo: Yeah, pardoning is the only power that matters when original sin is on the line
asciilifeform predicts that if this button starts getting heavy use, it'll be unplugged quickly and quietly
BingoBoingo: Can't https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKjc8IfzzMM
mircea_popescu: how ?
mircea_popescu: constitutional ammendment ?
asciilifeform: nah, same way as they unplugged his executive orders. 'pardon? very funny, d00d stays in jail, whatchagonnadoaboutit'
mircea_popescu: heh
mircea_popescu: he actually can call the natl guard.
mircea_popescu: that's how all the rooseveltian bs was imposed in the 50s.
asciilifeform: could have called it to get the illicit immigrants out of berkeley, also
asciilifeform: but did not.
mircea_popescu: iffier, but yes.
asciilifeform: nor the 'judges'.
mircea_popescu: well how the fuck would that have worked.
asciilifeform: i suspect that he dun particularly want to learn whether ~that~ button worx
BingoBoingo: "You broke the rules" "Fuck you, you're breaking the rules" "Fuck you I'm Tom Brady"
mircea_popescu: who's tom brady ?
BingoBoingo: The Cartman who is in the nightmare with Commisioner Cartman and Coach Cartman
mircea_popescu: ah
BingoBoingo: A perfect storm of hypocrisy that captures America's attention for months on end...
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why not ?
asciilifeform: now this i have nfi, why not, lol. ask him...
mircea_popescu: but YOU proposed it.
mircea_popescu: "i think alf fucks chickens" "Why would he do that" "i dunno, ask him"
asciilifeform: proposed for lack of better hypothesis in my head
hanbot: does mircea_popescu assert you can't suspect someone of something without knowing a plausible motive?
mircea_popescu: well gotta have some basis ; otherwise what are you suspecting them of, "i suspect thee of me not liking you" ?
asciilifeform: ( e.g. If it were known that asciilifeform were stranded on asteroid with only his chicken, but nevertheless fucked... )
asciilifeform bbl
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ok, that works. indicate such set of knowns.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> nor the 'judges'. << Pardon theology doesn't work that way.
mircea_popescu: i think that was re "call natl guard"./
BingoBoingo: Right, but this is why not call on judges over executive orders. It's a theological question.
BingoBoingo: Pardon vacates decisions judges attach to people.
BingoBoingo: Decisions judges make about decisions are condemned to float around judge wank
mircea_popescu: interesting point.
BingoBoingo: It's why you can national guard over one point and not the other
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> could have called it to get the illicit immigrants out of berkeley, also << And on this point INS is scaling up enforcment, can't National Guard while they can scale up unless salable "crisis".
BingoBoingo: While 'Murica may have been denied the possibility of a functioning culture by the Puritains, the Xtian possibility of absolution is the only role President and Governors have which seperates them from retail managers and traffic cops
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/BDFE9593C55F0E1D9A7E6C27AF731FCBBE190D92FEFB036540ED5929D245901A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1362...2729 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '87.253.102.108 (ssh-rsa key from 87.253.102.108 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (host-108-102.253-87.enter.it. IT)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/BDFE9593C55F0E1D9A7E6C27AF731FCBBE190D92FEFB036540ED5929D245901A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1517...8603 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '87.253.102.108 (ssh-rsa key from 87.253.102.108 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (host-108-102.253-87.enter.it. IT)
mircea_popescu: myeah
BingoBoingo: Without pardon there is no executive, which means dissolution
BingoBoingo: If pantsuit kills Trump on this they won't have anything left to take
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 4309.86, vol: 9738.48082200 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 4294.9, vol: 26852.97177971 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 4356.799, vol: 4116.63890714 | Volume-weighted last average: 4304.73842499
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/908594FC038BBD37E7116D8EB659C0234AFEE3A1F7B47A752C36ACD87ABA3787 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1642...9147 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '84.19.160.205 (ssh-rsa key from 84.19.160.205 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (h-84.19.160.205.keyweb.de. DE)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/908594FC038BBD37E7116D8EB659C0234AFEE3A1F7B47A752C36ACD87ABA3787 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1663...3239 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '84.19.160.205 (ssh-rsa key from 84.19.160.205 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (h-84.19.160.205.keyweb.de. DE)
mircea_popescu: !!up p0nziph0ne
deedbot: p0nziph0ne voiced for 30 minutes.
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 4307.6, vol: 9657.75523379 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 4307.5, vol: 24734.7973966 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 4331.52, vol: 8569.03020000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 4322.8, vol: 3762.66003719 | Volume-weighted last average: 4313.1579318
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F35C2347E2C93A09681C70C9B431E8B92D38C477F71C5FFC074F18714EE784B1 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1446...4539 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '212.200.103.20 (ssh-rsa key from 212.200.103.20 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown RS)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F35C2347E2C93A09681C70C9B431E8B92D38C477F71C5FFC074F18714EE784B1 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1353...1779 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '212.200.103.20 (ssh-rsa key from 212.200.103.20 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown RS)
shinohai: yay, trinque is still alive! :P
trinque: no tx weather is allowed to kill me without my permission
shinohai: If only we had bigger blox, could fit more weather in those tx's
trinque: lulz
mircea_popescu: trinque so how alt-weather did it get ? pictures post ?
trinque: as yet, hasn't done much of anything in houston, though I think I slept through a wave of rain last night. corpus christi and surrounding areas got a pounding.
trinque: we're right in between two bands atm, and sun is peaking through.
trinque: could still flood if the thing turns NE
trinque: if we get a decent deluge, will post
mircea_popescu chuckles at the thought that while all this was brought about by 40 inches of rain,
mircea_popescu: costa rica gets 25 FEET. A YEAR.
mircea_popescu: hola mike_c
mike_c: good afternoon
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/the-new-and-improved-republican-glossaurus/ << if anyone wanna either contribute items or ask for items to be included lemme know.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-new-and-improved-republican-glossaurus/ << Trilema - The New and Improved Republican Glossaurus
mod6: glad to see you stayed safe trinque
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 4342.06, vol: 6547.65639888 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 4339.3, vol: 15107.37467521 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 4345.01, vol: 2763.90766004 | Volume-weighted last average: 4340.68636018
shinohai: In other unintentionally hilarious headlines: http://archive.is/nOMrw