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mircea_popescu: 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000004 block is valid now,
too.
mircea_popescu: that'd certainly be
the right way
to do it. it's not "must start with 5 0s, it's "must start with 5 bytes equal
to prev block's"
mircea_popescu: yeah, but
that fixes nothing. as long as you use hashing, you have collisions.
mircea_popescu: this is a fundamental and inescapable problem of usg-style hash functions. stuff like mpfhf mitigate
THAT problem, but at a humongous cost.
mircea_popescu: the largest problem being
that as difficulty increases, it becomes more and more feasible
to simply seek a hash, in comparative
terms. considering
the disproportion of effect (one gives you a 1/2/2/2/2/2 of 50 btc,
the other fucks up
the
toy entirely) it's a virtual certainty
that eventually it will be economically reasonable
to divert resources from mining
to
this hash colliding.
mircea_popescu: which explains a lot of
things includingthe miner/node bug
mircea_popescu: i don't
think at
the
time he did
this he had a very clear idea of
the mempool / blockchain
tx disjunction.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
the consequences would likely be dire, ie, irrecoverable/invisible variant blockchain
phf: (searching
through a particular press doesn't work yet)
mircea_popescu: in principle it should not be possible
to collide a
tx.
phf: there's also a search function
that lets you search
through patchset, and it shows ~first appearance~ of particular string with corresponding file/vpatch
mircea_popescu: people who magicnumber magicnumber, it's just how
they go.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform rat droppings are never found in singlets or how'd
that go.
phf: ok, so experimental features on btcbase is
that in memory presser now works. each patch has a "tree" link,
that shows you a list of files (ones
that are explicitly
touched by
the patch are marked as "modified"), and can look at each individual file
mircea_popescu: you can in principle even have emacs-style "pile of all purpose
tests" with refinements etc
Framedragger: (obviously you need
to have written
those
tests first...)
Framedragger: i
thought mouseovers were already
there? if you mean
timestamps over nicks
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ci as such is not even a bad idea. compile and run pile of
tests frequently, an expansion of "save whenever you stop
typing"
jurov: asciilifeform: "continuous integrastion" - running
tests on every commit
Framedragger: asciilifeform: where
thing builds software and runs it
tests every
time a change is made. i assume you know his and are
therefore asking rhetorically
tho
phf: you've been reading logs
too long, if
Framedragger: #trilema is mircea_popescu's constant disappointment,
then
mircea_popescu: in other news : if your horse is undisciplined it's not
the harness
that needs improving. it's
the horse.
scriba: Logged on 2017-03-11: [21:20:45] <Framedragger> snarky
trinque uses ssh and bash for 100 machine setups,
too
ben_vulpes: last few
times i cracked a pyject, elpy and python-mode and friends proved...resistant
to providing utility
phf: that's another reason, why i don't for example, "hack my python with vim like a real hacker". give me
the filthiest, most feature rich IDE, where i can just push spacebar
to get half of my scaffolding, or whatever kids
these days
☟︎ trinque: as I understand it PostgreSQL is more or less "closest
thing
to oracle without having sold first-born per core"
a111: Logged on 2017-01-24 00:58
trinque: gonna DNS at all, might as well do it at
the most-fed ministry
phf: when you're an astrologer, choose
the client
that pays
the most? hmm, pissed opportunity
there
a111: Logged on 2016-12-28 18:31 asciilifeform: 'when choosing astrologer, hire
the cheapest'
ben_vulpes: jurov: i suppose
that i'm pretty lucky
to have never worked under anyone who
thought oracle worth including in
the matrix
ben_vulpes: once
the category of sv finger-trap is introduced, every option must demonstrate
that it is /not
that/.
jurov: "let's buy oracle,
they are solid"
ben_vulpes: "hey boss,
this looks like something written
to suck devs into paying a consulting company
to fix bugs in
their own software, shall we introduce it as a dependency in our stack?"
ben_vulpes: time-cost of audit impossible
to estimate at least, and if so and security is a concern, why bother.
jurov: it is always incredible hairball of code, impossible
to audit anyhow
ben_vulpes: time would be better spent curating a
tumblr full of naked girls and american muscle
jurov: don't forget
the part about proper management of secrets on
the master and general resilience of master against attacks from clients/minions
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: 'tisn't as
though hftbro is exhaustive banger-on of every dumb
thing, just
the ones he's faced with
Framedragger: i guess retort it "call me when you have 100 machines
to adminster, kid"
Framedragger: snarky
trinque uses ssh and bash for 100 machine setups,
too
Framedragger: (even hft guy doesn't have anything bad
to say about ansible)
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: dude start by writing some
tests mebbe
a111: Logged on 2016-05-15 15:56 mod6: what i also want
to build is a CI
thingy for
trb
jurov: Framedragger: experimenting really helps. i
tried saltstack lightly, and
the communication between master and minions was incredibly unreliable
Framedragger: "if you like report, pay bitcoin
to
this foundation address here -> " hey maybe one day it'll even happen
ben_vulpes: "can you give us a
tldr, kiddo?" "NO
TLDRS ARE FOR FAGGOTS SIX MONTHS STARTS YESTERDAY"
ben_vulpes: heh now i'm imagining a research report which is just a link
to log line
Framedragger: @all
thanks
to
this chat i'll now make some urgent recommendations
to startup i'm involved with. maybe it's not even gonna be fucked in
the ass if moves decisively away. a bit ashamed i had $opinion on $thing-not-researched in
the first place.
☟︎ ben_vulpes: that's what
they sell on, but it
turns out
that
the insulation is measured in briefcases of hundies
jurov: yes hear,
they insulated
the app from pebkac well
jurov: glad I've never used docker. apparently
they succeeded
to reimplement oracle-corp-bezzle without backward compat, wd!
ben_vulpes: critical production as distinct from
toy production?
Framedragger: (anyway, i never would have recommended
to use it in critical production. but looks like it's shit for personal local machine projects,
too)
Framedragger: trinque: not
trying
to redeem it any longer, at all, simmer down (but you were right.)
trinque: understand
the only
thing it exists is so some faggot at a web startup can make his makework job even more complicated so he can hide
the fact (mostly from himself) ~that he produces nothing, and is nothing~
trinque: why
teh fuck are you still
trying
to redeem it
trinque: you're not speaking
to people who have not done
this ~for long periods of
their adult life~