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phf: i was trying to find tuomov's rant from 2007 or so (the guy behind Ion) where he basically said that anti-aliasing is a kludge, and we won't even need it once the dpi is high enough
shinohai: TIL the ability to buy coffee is what Satoshi envisioned all along.
asciilifeform: 'Buying a cup of coffee is not a micro transaction' 'SegWit and LN and you can buy coffee again. That simple. You are choosing power and politics over coffee.' << lol
jurov: coinbr orders fixed. mircea_popescu pls to process ☟︎
Framedragger: asciilifeform: sorry about that
Framedragger: asciilifeform: for my own education, if not too much trouble, when you have a minute, could you paste a few log lines from the webserver relating to the 1min wget'er?
Framedragger: wtf. i'll beat myself with a crontab manual, then
Framedragger: so the 1min crawls, just to confirm - they were older, right? i did start with 1min on thursday; then turned it off on request; then re-enabled once/30min for stats page, once/60min for phuctored and once/60min for dupes.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: script log says the attempts are at the right frequency: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/rUTs3/?raw=true - but i'm turning off these two now, for the time being.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: still wget'ing every minute? the 1min frequency was the initial frequency which i had promptly changed at timestamp http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-06#1638989 ☝︎
Framedragger: how the fuck did i screw this up. crontab is http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/mYvHM/?raw=true
Framedragger: (i had changed it to 30min for index stats page)
asciilifeform: i thought i oughta ask before i blackhole the entire subnet.
Framedragger: that wasn't supposed to be once a minute. sorry about that.
Framedragger: fuck, that's siphnos' ip
Framedragger: hmm, certainly not. do you see the ip?
asciilifeform: Framedragger: unrelatedly is it you who has the 1/minute wget on phuctor ?
Framedragger: certainly not worth your time. and i understand. just find this 'call thief by default' funny; but it's probably borne of experience, simply ☟︎
asciilifeform: Framedragger: tbh i don't actually give enough of a shit to try to cut apart the ball of yarn in shitlang -- what part stolen, when, from which logs ( our discussion of block/tx storage has been running for ages )
Framedragger: (also, my mp-emulator is saying "why do you spend energy challenging these and not challenging the empire", and my response is that i don't give the privilege to the empire of even *challenging* their shit; they're not worth it imho. this all just to say that take it easy)
Framedragger: you could of course say that 'git doesnt prove anything', and i'll have to agree. but if you allow that, then it's reasonable to say that 'unsigned irc logs dont prove anything, either', from the point of view of the counterparty. i won't say more, only that this 'thief!!' is very unconvincing
Framedragger: from what i take it, 'spent tree' is the relevant notion here. tell me if i'm wrong tho (very much could be). but if i'm not, then - 22 dec 2016: https://github.com/tomasvdw/bitcrust/commit/ac4f4eb12c7a202a3971f782f92b741431ff75ed (and commits thereafter).
Framedragger: i see that part of the related turd is here (5 march): https://github.com/tomasvdw/bitcrust/commit/01001d9f6033426624fba570da437a0a316993c0
Framedragger: do you recall when you described the storage of nqb? ☟︎
Framedragger gets into situtations where he's forced by himself to read rust code on git. can't blame anyone
asciilifeform: what part of the linked item verifiably existed in aug '16 ?
Framedragger: did you describe the idea before, say, august 2016?
a111: Logged on 2014-08-13 14:40 asciilifeform: 'They tend to show up late at parties because they figure they can always steal the cake anyway, so why bother go early ? Let the suckers figure out first - on their own dime - where the good cakes are, then just swoop in and collect... This means the only way they can get in is if you let them get in. Don’t let them get in for cheap - they have no business here.' (mp's http://trilema.com/2014/people-us-dollar
asciilifeform: or what, 'was always obvious', just had to wait until now 'for reasons'.
asciilifeform: Framedragger: this particular one -- yes, stolen.
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://bitcrust.org << tardanoization of nqb storage algo.
Framedragger: trinque: does `!!deed` work when issued over privmsg? i just did that and then realised that may it's not supposed to work that way?
mircea_popescu: walking, talking, rotting meat-based FUCKGOATS.
mircea_popescu: first it was "get a college degree doing no work -- just on the basis of your current experience!11" now it's "draw a salary doing nothing other than recounting the psychogenic hum in your otherwise empty brainbox".
mircea_popescu: all these turdwads "Talking about their experience" holy shit
Framedragger: pete_dushenski: ty :)
shinohai: No need to get cocky
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: When do we get G5 trb sync stats?
BingoBoingo: And don't even get started on the peacucks
BingoBoingo: No fowl language, so shut the fuck up about the peacocks and peahens!
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 22:15 trinque: by the nato precedent set by turkey, I'd expect russia can down an american plane or two without risking a nuclear exchange, eh?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-07#1640387 << ~everyone can do just about anything without risking such a wonder seeing how the shit dun werk. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 17:31 danielpbarron: i can do an unboxing video or something. i have 5.5 through 5.8 in original sealed packaging
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 22:45 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: before you totally bah at frpmobile http://archive.is/MfHrx
shinohai: https://twitter.com/MrChrisEllis/status/850496261870546944 "conspiring with top brass" lmfao
pete_dushenski: that's exactly my scheme to bid up the prices of g5s. bwahaha!
shinohai: Now you make me want to buy one of these ppc's pete_dushenski
asciilifeform: anyway entire bag would power several thou. pin diode
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: before you totally bah at frpmobile http://archive.is/MfHrx ☟︎
asciilifeform: asciilifeform finally found a rng-usable beta decay source that is permitted in every country's post office, available worldwide, and for a few bux per kg : ordinary KCl.
asciilifeform: oh unrelatedly to anything,
ben_vulpes: compiling 4.9 here, will try again.
pete_dushenski: it can't really be any wonder that knc sunk. not after reading this.
pete_dushenski: "Well I was a major miner for over two years and I lost out because other people had a lower CoC. I had to say goodbye to a business that I built from the ground up. I’m not calling fowl play and throwing my toys out of the pram. Its called business and its what enables people to invest in bitcoin." ~sam cole (tm). so fowl. so chicken. cluck cluck!
pete_dushenski: https://medium.com/@samcole_74219/asicboost-655a73d48ae4 << more of the same sadness as above. strap double gas mask on for this one. 'sam cole founder of kncminer' is functionally illiterate.
ben_vulpes: i'm not going to crack a web browser when the bot's right there
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: this is an ancient (circa 2014 or so) snorefest
pete_dushenski: in other boosts, asicboost is back as the segwit saviour : http://archive.is/1BYAX (gmaxwell)
trinque: by the nato precedent set by turkey, I'd expect russia can down an american plane or two without risking a nuclear exchange, eh? ☟︎
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: only 'domestic' i'd touch is f-150. new citroen 'h van' is my kinda plastic though. frp. tres retrocool aussi.
trinque: equiv to select 1,2,3 ; and you can use that if you like
trinque: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/VBOWD/?raw=true << values part of an insert is a table literal
BingoBoingo awaits pete_dushenski's eventual conversion to plasticar and panel replacement that requires only a good flat head screwdriver
trinque: mircea_popescu: reads block nobody, never block. I understand the where clause of an insert statement to be a condition on a read query that gets fed into a write, just as my "common table expressions" ('with' keyword) feed into each other.
pete_dushenski: but the replacement is still hush-hush. stay tuned.
shinohai: And selling the mercedes! O.o
pete_dushenski: it'd be discriminatory NOT to give to that cause!
shinohai: Hmmm .... the foundation for the preservation of slutty tits ?
pete_dushenski: haha well mine is for sale... could always gift. can you give me a tax receipt for your needy cause ?
mircea_popescu: ie, s5 is NOT waiting to do EITHER its insert or its where check because S3 is doing EITHER its insert or its where check ?
mircea_popescu: suppose S = "insert if not exists where a = b" prototype. suppose S takes time T composed of ti for the insert and tw for the where clause. Suppose thjere's 5 concurrent S presented to db, S1..S5. are you saying that IN NO CASE will Sn wait for a Twi where i != n ?
trinque: if you and I are trying to update the same table your update may block until after mine
mircea_popescu: trinque so an insert if not exists where a = b does NOT block a different select while it checks the where clause ?
trinque: the thing forks the database upon each write and reads happen in the snapshot of state they began
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-07#1640351 <<< lol thx pete_dushenski ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Trump needed contrast to Obama/watches too much television, and needs a pretext to come into friendship with Putin honestly if MWGA is to happen
mircea_popescu: i am not advanced enough for this
trinque: data produced by concurrent transactions performing updates on the same data rows, providing transaction isolation for each database session. MVCC, by eschewing the locking methodologies of traditional database systems, minimizes lock contention in order to allow for reasonable performance in multiuser environments."
BingoBoingo amazed by fake news wank over Assad dropped sarin vs. Assad bomed, sarin happened to be in bomb's way
trinque: mircea_popescu: https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/mvcc-intro.html << "Internally, data consistency is maintained by using a multiversion model (Multiversion Concurrency Control, MVCC). This means that each SQL statement sees a snapshot of data (a database version) as it was some time ago, regardless of the current state of the underlying data. This prevents statements from viewing inconsistent
pete_dushenski: Framedragger: new command added to directory yesterday, just fyi :)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: on contemplation, cars may not be a very good hiding place, they ( esp in usa ) routinely move through chokepoints - toll archs, and these are already equipped with camera and radio receivers << Depends on region and car
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 16:49 trinque: insert into factors (val) values (3) where not exists (select 1 from factors where value = 3);
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-07#1640078 << are you sure this is equiv to select * where something=something and if nothing is selected insert, ie, does the insert take read locks while it looks for the where ? ☝︎
trinque: reminds me I gotta buy the HD screws for g5 cheese-grater
asciilifeform: it ain't your ~shell~ that hung.
asciilifeform: well of course they will
ben_vulpes: it's not strictly speaking hung afaict; cursor blinks, newlines and other chars write to term
asciilifeform: for this 'gift'.
asciilifeform: thank the nice folx who created autoconf.
ben_vulpes: anyone ever see a trb/buildroot run hang at `checking for gcc float-conversion bug...` ?
mircea_popescu: the immediate (not even spoken, because they don't want to say it because they don't want it discussed because they want it to be forever true) retort from the empire'd be that "well, this doesn't work". except... it does work.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 16:11 Framedragger: alright. i will grant you that the end system wouldn't be "oh so elegantly simple", because you would have to have a submission queue (maybe something that trinque had in mind). user submits key; gets permalink (immediately); meanwhile key gets sent to master (immediately), and master puts it into "to be inserted" queue. under normal loads, the insertion happens ~immediately,
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-07#1639964 << one of the (~the~ ?) advantage of tmsr work for intelligent folk is that there isn't a braindamaged/choiceless manager in the loop going "i know it's stupid but it must be done". ☝︎☟︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: customers complain about random outages, att/verizon/$provider wastes a pile of money doing infrastructure testing and then calls in fcc vans for triangulation rolls
ben_vulpes: bill /for the state/
mircea_popescu: one could also rack up quite a bill paying the wife for blowjobs.
mircea_popescu: let enemy invest in that, move to something else...
asciilifeform: would not be so difficult for enemy to determine who has one.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: on contemplation, cars may not be a very good hiding place, they ( esp in usa ) routinely move through chokepoints - toll archs, and these are already equipped with camera and radio receivers