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BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> dba variously
as usg's very own honeypot for cypher-dorks. << AHA, dedicated Thermos sodomizer
trinque:
as it stands I'm already the host for the trb deps.
mod6:
As far
as production hardware, not sure how we could vet such an environment. But maybe I can just think on this a bit.
mircea_popescu: dba variously
as usg's very own honeypot for cypher-dorks.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes,
as a practical matter. i was just discussing the "must have buffer" theoretical point.
mircea_popescu: a is also twice
as strong, because obviously b will flip on average half the bits it sets. but is this ACTUALLY half ? ie, how do yo umeasure unrandomness ? b is much more strongly patterned than a.
mircea_popescu:
as alf points out, a is "better" in the sense v-n debiaser kills b, if this is a better. unclear.
mircea_popescu:
as in, balance it according to a calculation, rather than according t oa feeling.
mircea_popescu: then we feed it into entropy-dependent processes (say the rabin miller test,
as discussed yest) and see what comes out.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-10 19:50 mircea_popescu: which incidentally brings us to a very workable and very useful tmsr definition of entropy quality : take a FG string. flip a number of consecutive bits to 1. the result is your entropy quality, such
as 100/1mb if you flipped 100 bits.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes here's a high pay grade question for you : of the two models of "controlled de-entropy" i spawned in a week, specifically a) count of randomly placed flipped bits,
as in the discussion with you re that and b) string of randomly initiated, n bit long SET bits,
as discussed in
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-10#1681268 which does the bitcoin foundation regard
as a better candidate for standardization
as "the republic'
☝︎ mircea_popescu: "
As recently
as earlier today, the Fake News empire turned idiot son Donald Junior's gullibility with respect to a phishing scheme1 into their latest headline of the day which they will use to sell loyal consumers of their fiction product on the "certain end" of the 8 year Trumpreich in spite of all the actual evidence running to the contrary of their narrative supported instead by a complete lack of evidence."
BingoBoingo: In other news: Fake news attacking idiot son (Donald Jr.) for trying to impress father because shut out of campaign
as an idiot
mod6: i haven't gone all the way through the W_Mul yet, but just unrolling it
as said.
mircea_popescu: just
as should be. first spec code then optimized code
mircea_popescu: moreover, if you do fixed
as described, you CAN so unroll, if you do or if you don't.
mircea_popescu: ~same
as the relation between pointer and its content, "better hope programmer didn't fuck up ; and also it usually blows up if he did so there's that"
mircea_popescu: i am sitting here wondering if this is "getting rid"
as in, rid or rid
as in, hid.
mod6: i've read, so far seems ok -- i've got to wrap my mind around the second ("high loop")
as I did before.
mircea_popescu: which incidentally brings us to a very workable and very useful tmsr definition of entropy quality : take a FG string. flip a number of consecutive bits to 1. the result is your entropy quality, such
as 100/1mb if you flipped 100 bits.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: "Rooney Mara’s character, grieving the death of her lover (Casey Affleck), returns home to find a pie left in her kitchen by a sympathetic friend or neighbor.
As the bedsheet-clad ghost of her beloved looks on, Mara’s character, known only
as M, unwraps the pie, sinks to the kitchen floor, and devours almost the entire thing in a five-minute, uninterrupted sequence before suddenly dashing to a nearby bathroom to throw up." << Films W
mircea_popescu:
http notably gets this half-right : there's no such thing
as an error message the server ever expects to see from a client, such
as i dunno, "this page has porn on it, unacceptable, send me another version" or whatever.
mircea_popescu: but the problem becomes really complex when you consider "bitcoin block index" is
as of right now "positive integer under 474974", and won't stay that way for long.
phf: it was an example of what "byte packing protocol" is. designing proper byte packing protocol is left
as an exercise to the reader
mircea_popescu: for the curious : yes, i also have this problem in speech, especially when discussing complicated things with complicated women, and the solution THERE is the sort and short rule. which in relevant part says here that "(1 #.(+ 1 1) 3)" could NEVER be interpreted
as "(+ 1 1)" because "(+ 1 1)" was a shorter statement of that and it wasn't used.
phf: mircea_popescu: well, sexp ~is~ code, primarily it's for writing your programs, not ~storing~ data. there's no such thing
as sexp internally
mircea_popescu: phf and the reason for this is that it tries to take it
as code.
mircea_popescu: but i can say you not merely should, but absolutely must. the cornerstone of wire protocol is a firm, protocol-derived guarantee of there being no such thing
as bad data.
mircea_popescu: everything sucks where there can be such a thing
as "this is the table of possible inputs and these are the three that set it on fire".
mircea_popescu: the very possiblity of even having such a thing
as "broken data", by eg naming your kid "-- DROP table students;" is why i agree with the sql sucks sentiment.
phf: (common lisp sexps are backed by a full blown reader, with multiple non-trivial dispatch macros, so for example '(1 #.(+ 1 1) 3) is a valid sexps that's read
as '(1 2 3), i.e. (+ 1 1) is evaluated at read time. there's a dispatch for structs, like #S(FOO :A 1 :B 2) results in a structure foo with two slots a and b set to 1 and 2 respectively, but there's no corresponding constructor for classes. there's a reader for arrays, but that one doesn't let you
phf: same
as you would do it locally. it's a transparent rpc, not a specified one. so either the operator does manual discovery, or you define a discovery convention. (and then there's middle ground, where you use standard tooling, like code to list packages and symbols to do discovery for you)
mircea_popescu: also, there's not so much darker gypsy association. one of mah first youthful loves was this blonde horseriding gypsy girl from the danube delta. hot
as hell, and about
as dark
as hillary clinton.
phf: well, one thing that ascii said "don't operate at a byte level", might also be the reason why lisp version is slower. bit vectors are stores
as octet arrays, so tweaking single bit pulls a whole octet, does bit twiddling on it, and then puts it back. presumably can be sped up if one were to figure out how to work over an octet at a time
phf: presumably
as asciilifeform keeps implying you could rewrite mp's fhf in some closed form that does account for these issues, but..
mircea_popescu: somehow peeps got the idea it's "unfair", like little kids playing a game, to use computers in certain ways that expose them for being mere machines, rather than your girlfriend. such
as making them do things like fhf.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm very much convinced that the various "oh, it's the same thing really" bad choices hash designers and implementers make, very much typified by the above "machine word so
as to '''elegantly''' avoid these problems" very much plays into nsa needs. it's again that same old convenience that makes the usg usg.
mircea_popescu: what "bitcoin nodes" currently do is a very shitty attempt at just this. and they are
as autonomous
as you are conical, also because they fail to correctly implement this.
phf:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-08#1680544 << nope, in fact my "optimized" one i.e. the version where cmucl doesn't complain about unknown types with (speed 3) (safety 0), is about twice
as slow
as Go version. i'm curious why that would be the case, but haven't had a chance to investigate.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: trinque amusingly, candi does sort-of this,
as a prototype of it.
BingoBoingo: " Huel @gethuel Jun 19 A new concept in food - 100% vegan with protein, fatty acids, fiber and 27 essential vitamins and minerals." << Poor naming. "Huel" is mostly known to USians
as the name of the fat pickpocket on some "prestige" tv show.
trinque: "connect" too, is not quite right,
as it would be a superior model for me to huck a request to you, which ~maybe~ you get, and which ~maybe~ you drop on the floor at wire speed, and maybe you huck me something back, if you want.
mircea_popescu: at least it's conceptually a thing,
as opposed to "here's some data, and here's some half-tagging, and here's some half-code with it"
trinque: I'd say folks yes, use sqlite because they did not reason the program out completely before beginning to write code, but they often use postgresql
as a messaging platform, RPC, or what have you
trinque: what it lacks (at least
as part of the CLOS standard, afaik) is a standard for how one CLOS program shares objects and methods with another, whether on same box or across the network.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-07-08 07:21 sina: I dunno much about lisp, but I think lisp handles this better in the sense you write state into the "lisp machine" and can flush that entire state out to disk and read it therefrom
as well?
mircea_popescu: wait, he's trying to turn the horde of aging "trynna make it
as a pimp" blacks into good consumers with credit cards ?
a111: Logged on 2017-07-08 10:54 sina: wasn't
as bad
as I thought it'd be
sina: wasn't
as bad
as I thought it'd be
☟︎ sina: I dunno much about lisp, but I think lisp handles this better in the sense you write state into the "lisp machine" and can flush that entire state out to disk and read it therefrom
as well?
☟︎ sina: one interesting thing is that I thought there would be some databases implemented
as flat files, but I can't seem to find any
mircea_popescu: this is fine,
as a general notion, but what is it based on ?
sina: I just doubt I can impl, e.g. transactions
as well
as sqlite guy
sina: if its a matter of moving a key from keys/available/???.key => keys/assigned/name_of_peer_assigned.key ...or symlinking
as you mention
sina: with the privkey
as the contents of the file
a111: Logged on 2017-03-20 17:00 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-20#1629256 << even reiser is almost certainly waste of time, general-purpose fs is very sharply the opposite of what we want, they are all optimized for mutability (can delete/rename/resize/etc) and fast reads at the expense of slow entity creation,
as well
as carrying out silent rebalances/defrags/etc.
mircea_popescu: such
as, we';re discussing cunts, but oohohohohobviously not rly.
mod6: and
as far
as pete_dushenski or whomevers quest to write a log digest or whatever, it never happened. the foundation briefly considered a role for gathering up trb related parts, but that was set aside in exchange for tb0t
a111: Logged on 2017-07-08 02:01 mircea_popescu: certainly above qs could have been asked just
as well by a noob, and vague "large threads" reference dun help him any.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-08 01:13 phf: pretty sure asciilifeform is actively ignoring the whole initiative, with only periodic pounces.
as opposed to his older strategy of annihilating the whole thing upfront. must be getting old
mod6:
as a way to teach it to myself, i've been poking around with a v impl.
mircea_popescu: sina you can implement your whatever
as a binary tree, leverage the directory structure, and simply check if there's a file / write it.
mircea_popescu: certainly above qs could have been asked just
as well by a noob, and vague "large threads" reference dun help him any.
☟︎ phf: that's a tricky request, but the tenets are around shitlangs differentiation, "fits in head", v
as a way of releasing code, what it means to own a piece of technology. there's a handful of threads that had definitive conclusions, that i consider tenets (i think the word should be in quotes to indicate that while not true tenets, violating them will require reopening large threads)
phf: or perhaps now that he has successfully served
as the main driving force behind the tenets of tmsr technology and ensured that they are collectively accepted, he doesn't need to reaffirm them
as much. but i also have wonder if the tenets have
as much of a galvanizing effect now that we mostly had a chance to observe both their positive and negative effects?
phf: pretty sure asciilifeform is actively ignoring the whole initiative, with only periodic pounces.
as opposed to his older strategy of annihilating the whole thing upfront. must be getting old
☟︎ mircea_popescu also,
as young tyke, thought "wtf breadboard, useless shit takes more time to set up than it's worth new". then touched 120V a coupla times and grew wiser.
mircea_popescu: it allows you support to set out all your shit and connect it
as you want, and measure and decide how to package it.
mircea_popescu: sina go make a drop-in flatfile db replacement, so people can drop it in right now. there's a market, such
as people who aren't happy mp-wp pulls in mysql.