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phf: well, because i did all the manual work to scan the physical papers, there's litereally three people who have this dump

asciilifeform: and i dun hold it against mircea_popescu , then or nao, it's a talent, this , holding folx to account re their 'i'ma X'.

asciilifeform: phf: we currently have FG not the least bit because in '16, mircea_popescu said to asciilifeform 'you are wasting my time, where is product' so asciilifeform took little vacation and , magic!, there it was. i dun regret this. consider maybe also vacation ?

asciilifeform: ( and 99% of the case, is proving the case, ergo why i did not try an' ask mircea_popescu to buy box, cut it himself, etc )

phf: also just to clarify the choice presented to me is either i'm leaking the dump, or i'm out?

mircea_popescu: i don't happen to agree, is all, but this with no prejudice.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am aware you think it valuable, and i have no problem with that, your business, how your lab works, enjoy.

a111: Logged on 2018-12-16 19:15 mircea_popescu: and more generally, if it's a "oh, #trilema is item #608 on my list of 1850 vaguely maybe interesting items i found on the internet, among which i read to pass the time waiting for the bus or w/e" sorta affair forget about it altogether, there's 0 interest in supporting that kinda imbecility/pluralism/skepticism.

phf: mircea_popescu: i made that point in logs multiple times, having had a chance to look at a variety "gold chests"

mircea_popescu: phf i expect the accumulated value of the whole pile of "secrets" is about 0. and i further expect the entire value of the whole bolix stack neatly approximates the value of my stock of pogos. ☟︎

asciilifeform: phf: if dump weighs TB and (apparently) after whole year phf still not eaten it, might make sense to pgp to asciilifeform . i'ma not post the raw docs and their yellowdots. ☟︎

phf: my approach to this is to find compromise, i've volunteered all the information i've volunteered so far. i'm making a point that whatever asciilifeform might need for his work i can communicate to him. is this approach not acceptable? it seems that i'm just being pressured into dumping a dump of unknown quality and state, that might or might not help ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: i put in the table stakes, bought the box. nao logically 'hey l1 people, got anyffing i oughta know?'

asciilifeform: phf: i'd much rather do this wurk ~with~ phf, than without. could make coupla yrs of diff. but gotta understand what 'with' constitutes.

phf: so i'm not trusted at all? ☟︎

mircea_popescu: i am however NOT dealing with people who have your sort of committment outlay. ☟︎☟︎

mircea_popescu: i will replace whatever btcbase.

phf: i see

asciilifeform: phf: also feel free to pgp to asciilifeform , i dun even mind to promise that strictly the clone will end up on the net.

phf: asciilifeform: no, none of the documents i have can end up on the internet in their current form

asciilifeform: phf: so what was it, you promised 'i'ma only leak the bits re ivory' ?

phf: you. you'll just have to trust me that i'm not intentionally hiding things from you, but making honest effort to see what relevant bits are available.

a111: Logged on 2018-12-19 18:26 asciilifeform: phf i'm pretty curious how you got the fella to spill.

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881853 << i was the only person who showed up to do dull, manual job, when there was a need for it. i can't leak it because i promised not to. there will be no consequences for me, but i made a promise to multiple people, for whom there might be consequences, and it's not my place to evaluate whether that's true or not. that said that doesn't mean that i can't use knowledge this way acquired to help ☝︎

mircea_popescu: whether the "spurious" set bits are shameful or on the contrary, soothing, depends i suppose on the mental age of the observer.

mircea_popescu: i suppose older writers told it in terms of "the shame", "l'embarass". obects that exist have to populate the whole array ; whereas objects that do not exist get away with natural-language sparse existence

mircea_popescu: not even specific nostalgia. people go to museums not strictly because "oh, i recall my childhood of bering spartan!!!"

asciilifeform: i knew fella who actually bought vintage machines, installed in own house.

mircea_popescu: unactual, i have no use for tards, can use my box.

mircea_popescu: sspeaking of which -- i wanted to play pinball. girls went all over town. no pinball machine exists in a costa rican arcade.

mircea_popescu: i suspect "we can fix your pals" would be mega business. if, of course, bolix prices weren't utter bs, and if, of course, anyone wanted them ~for an actual purpose~. neither of which...

asciilifeform: if they turn out to be readable, i'ma simply copy'em all and emplace the copies instead of the orig, which are already approaching their rated theoretical life.

asciilifeform: aaand i'm still quite curious what the answer to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881616 ! ☝︎

asciilifeform: it clearly aint purely about spending dough at his little shop of horrors, i spent to date north of 10k orcbux, if added up

asciilifeform: phf i'm pretty curious how you got the fella to spill. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-11-28 19:44 asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf turns out i was wrong re the rom, the rom-shaped object is actually a 1980s 'programmable event timer' thingie, am2971adc

asciilifeform: and i have nfi currently how to even approach the antifuse 'actel a1010a', antifuses aint even visible under electron micro. prolly will have to be inferred logically.

a111: Logged on 2018-12-18 13:14 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881345 << already replied that he got'em on paper, but in treasure chest on wrong coast ( he moved to west. ) i answered with offer to pay his flight to get'em plus what to make it worth his while. no answ to this just yet.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yea iirc i did say 'cannot resolve w/out timemachine' heh

mircea_popescu: i see it ; buyt possibly went to modqueue because linked ave's thing

mircea_popescu: if there's anything in the world more insulting than the passage of time i can scarcely imagine what the fuck it'd be. but i suspect i know how moses feels every time danielpbarron quotes the bible : exactly how i feel every time one of these inconsequential schmucklettes discuss "the concept of bdsm".

mircea_popescu: meanwhile i give you "the concept of bdsm" : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/pK5Ax/?raw=true

Mocky: i have an interview over video momentarily

mircea_popescu: you mean, "all i got -- is a passport" or you mean "all i got -- is fuck you mp!" ?

Mocky: that's all i got

mircea_popescu: honestly i don't think we have nearly enough drama. a serious project would have more drama.

mircea_popescu: Mocky did yo uget butthurt at something she said that i've not got to read eyt ?

asciilifeform: ( it is apparently known that cats eat face 1st. why, i do not know )

asciilifeform: for all i know, he owns 11 towers and owes 9000.

mircea_popescu: nfi, i don't watch this so closely. but on the strength of data presented...

asciilifeform: i can't picture a 'full suitcase' of d00d's, containing small change.

asciilifeform: i.e. 'so they stole empty suitcase, whatevers' ?

mircea_popescu: i expect there's in excess of a million "dormant", ie, entirely abandoned such legal entities in the state of new york. i further expect their paper assets exceed a billion.

mircea_popescu: ie, rather than your interpretation above, i see it as a "in 2016, trump won election, 5979th item on his agenda was how apparently state of new york decided to "investigate" some foundation. he shook his hand and moved on, two years later the morons finally got something to flash in media, and precisely nothing else, even locating where the chairs are anymore is impossible)

mircea_popescu: (i suspecvt 2016 on the basis of "most recent", otherwise "it's 2017 tax return", "its last year's tax return" etc.)

mircea_popescu: "nd resulted in the misuse of charitable assets for the benefit of Donald J. Trump ("Mr. ("Trump") Trump" and his personal, political and/or business interests. In sum, the Investigation revealed that the Foundation was little more than a checkbook for payments to not-for-profits from Mr. Trump or the Trump Organization." << i don't get it... so was it used for his benefit or at his cost ?

trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-19#1881688 << and here I thought a large part of the republic was to reveal one's inner idjit. worked for trinque. ☝︎☟︎

diana_coman: I'm sure it can also fully and without problems "summarize" the twitter twatter

mircea_popescu: (i will propose go "with a general adversary", glory-hole go so to speak, is about on the complexity level of log summarizing, +- constant)

diana_coman: I can also add that doing those summaries is useful in cementing my previous idea that they really have to be done manually - there's no way to link the various bits and pieces correctly without actually understanding the content; even with pointers from one line to another, even with some set of terms and definitions , it would still likely fail

mircea_popescu: i think what ~really~ happened was term vicious switched parser into interpreting ~your~ quotes as neutral (she's taking from the log) whereas they were in fact overloaded (she's using them to convey faux smart tone on being smart).

mircea_popescu: honestly, i think you have it. the quotes are there, the discussion is here, he who reads understands.

mircea_popescu: well now i gotta re-read the summary :)

diana_coman: hm, I did not read it as a neutral symbol, hence my "" for it; but I don't really know how to convey more clearly that it's the opposite of actual smart (other than either explicitly noting that or using the "" that seems to fail to work)

mircea_popescu: i think the summary takes smart as a neutral symbol, whereas in the logs it was used as a very overloaded symbol.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman you're very likely right, i expect a major stone on nicole's back was precisely this : man re-reading has to reconstruct a cognitive structure. cost of this is 0 for man who's been reading and has it pre-built ; cost is small for man who lost it, but was there and knows how to build it. cost is immense for man that tries to learn how to build at the same time as building.

a111: Logged on 2018-10-18 18:57 mircea_popescu: which i stand behind, ftr ; and it is also what informs the "if they had any sense -- they'd be here" stance. the fact that rando can't cut through fetlife to find the meat / can't cut through internet to find trilema / can't cut through femstate to find bitcoin / can't cut through pantsuitism to find republic etc specifically means that rando is dull, ie, not smart.

diana_coman: asciilifeform, well, someone has to make them for them to exist at all! and yeah, this one is significantly longer and also took a couple of hours more; I suspect the longer I go back the longer it will take because more recent ones have the advantage of being relatively fresh in my mind - I keep up with the log throughout the day to some extent anyway

mircea_popescu: part of the problem being that we traditionally use " to render pantsuit nonsense, and i suppose it ended up coloring the quotes or something.

mircea_popescu: i think maybe the problem is that we omitted " around the smart, though the intention transparently is "smart as understood by mainstream idiots".

asciilifeform: no, i like

diana_coman: ftr I don't mean it in the sense that anyone in there got attacked; simply in the sense that it started from something and ended up in an entirely (if totally valid!) different place

mircea_popescu: i mean, the point re "do not turn signal processor into state machine nor your wire into a cable" seems both time honored and uncontroversial.

asciilifeform: 'the Italian school of algebraic geometry, which produced extremely good and deep results for some 50 years, but then went to pieces. There are 3 key names here -- Castelnuovo, Enriques and Severi. C was earliest and was totally rigorous, a splendid mathematician. E came next and, as far as I know, never published anything that was false, though he openly acknowledged that some of his proofs didn't cover every possible case (there w

asciilifeform: 'cyber threats' is, a la prb, smoke grenade to obscure the actual ur-'cyberthreat' to reich, i.e. comp stack sans usg

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform best i can tell a) this happened under nigglet's reign and b) whole "great again" algo consists of "find me those orders we can still execute, and limit ordering to that".

mircea_popescu: i suppose it's a rake particularly fit for the exact shape of their face, because the principal mental issue of anglotards is their overwhelming anxiety.

asciilifeform: their Official ideology, near as i can tell, is 'budgets are for the lesser mortals who can't print green'

asciilifeform: enforcing 'i own the house' on the cockroaches in the kitchen, still takes work

a111: Logged on 2018-12-18 23:03 asciilifeform: usg used a fleet of bolix boxen for gulf war I logistics, and fuck knows what else, so in some dusty beetleman's desk it is 'coloured' as 'strategic', and so it gets passed from mallery to mallery.

asciilifeform: i'd be at least mildly surprised if i learned today that the place hasn't yet been bulldozed and converted to microshit; but all kindsa miracles are possible, e.g. usg rocket command still runs on 100% dec vax and no plans to stop 'till 2050' Officially

asciilifeform: usg used a fleet of bolix boxen for gulf war I logistics, and fuck knows what else, so in some dusty beetleman's desk it is 'coloured' as 'strategic', and so it gets passed from mallery to mallery. ☟︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-07-05 16:22 mircea_popescu: very much in the vein of http://btcbase.org/log/2014-08-14#795515 : NONE, and i mean it : not a single FUCKING ONE of these "government-sponsored oligarchs" have a penny to their name. every single one "powerful" of the democracy-socialism, be they a senator, a general, a "famous person", a "journalist", WHATHEVER they may be, made out, at all. not like bandits, not like anythings, they're as poor as church mice.

asciilifeform: ( iirc mallery 'bought' the 'properties' for an amt that does not by many zeroes exceed what asciilifeform bought the 1 box for . entirely a http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-05#1831755 scenario, near as i can tell. ) ☝︎

BingoBoingo: Ughhh, ustardism. Apparently I have been spoiled by a country where it is less challenging for me to piss on former and sitting president's doorknobs than it is for them to piss on mine.

asciilifeform: phf: or gpggram to asciilifeform whole thing, and i'ma post with black flag proudly flying.

asciilifeform: so far i can't even seem to convince phf to post that magic doc.

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> well, whoopdeedoo... if instead of letting the ants eat your dumb asses you ate the ants, it'd be the other way. and until it isn't the other way, it'll keep being this way, grand discovery this. << This is. I'm setting up mp-wp for a lead danielpbarron directed to us.

asciilifeform: i suspect it'll still need xray, that green quite definitely dun acct for all the pins

asciilifeform: i'ma put this thing on a flatbed this weekend and get a 2000dpi shot of that arse

asciilifeform: i suspect that the greens are ~pain~

asciilifeform: and before anyone asks, no i have nfi what bolix (or the ravages of time...) did to that solder mask to make the tracks look like dash

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881556 << there may be a way to use the floor(2^k / M) ~quotient~ to determine the E . but i'ma leave this alone until end of series, it won't make a superlinear diff in the runtime ☝︎

asciilifeform: stickers looked virginal prior to today's defloration, so i suspect that this particular specimen has not been on vivisection table prior.

asciilifeform: they happened , i suppose, when engineer 'oops'. i've found'em even in 486.

asciilifeform: all of'em have inscriptions of the form DDDDDD-A/B, aside from the fpga (has just the #), and the serialnum chip (cypress, and i'ma post full output from the knife+notebook when i post whole orchestra)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's a reason i wrote the thing that way, with 'what's the minimum for rsa modexp without ANY accelerations', and only then with

asciilifeform: phf: i fear that it'll take an entire weekend to go through the pics ( plux i wanna redo whole thing with a tripod and macro lens, and the latter i gotta find ) , but to whet appetite, have a http://www.loper-os.org/pub/bolix/bolix_peek.jpg

asciilifeform: i can actually think of applications where you'd want 100% egypt. ☟︎

asciilifeform: i dunno of any other