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mircea_popescu: (currently, nat'd boxes are ~useless as nodes)
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 15:49 asciilifeform: the need to use un-NATed boxes as proxies, so that NATed boxes can speak with one another, creates star topologies
pete_dushenski: in other rough regions, the usg 'left' is still confuzed as fuck http://archive.is/X9fwz ☟︎
pete_dushenski: some russian hardware too, and increasingly chinese as per http://archive.is/xhzQI ☟︎
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: try as i might, i can't follow this
pete_dushenski: just because you're eating the liver, doesn't mean you won't find another source of food when it's gone or as soon as the aging father finally croaks. but this is a stretch analogy.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: 'doesn't need no moar' is immaterial -- just like a freshly cut out liver is still trying, best as it can, to do its enzymatic business as if nothing happened, same -- reichs
pete_dushenski: 'yeshiva' needn't be as public as i made it is all
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i'm more inclined to liken the 'new' .il to that of 'new' china : sucks up resources of imploding empire for as long as the going is good all while increasing self-sustainability and military capability. israel might be socialist but they're nowhere near as soft-bodied as the decaying west. closer to .su-.cn hybrid than .su-.us hybrid.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-12 23:16 asciilifeform: ^ 'altalena affair' resulted in the switcheroo where the upstanding folx ( irgun et al, who held the position 'rm -rf britain' , were replaced by the internationalkomyooniti obedient muppet circus who ended up 'recognized' by said komyooniti as 'israel'
asciilifeform: the need to use un-NATed boxes as proxies, so that NATed boxes can speak with one another, creates star topologies ☟︎
asciilifeform is mildly surprised that there isn't, as of yet, such a thing
mircea_popescu: twasn't, per se, "gotta have... corn! as far as the eye can see" in any way or in any sense other than the 1950s romanians being impressed with the ro commies "a LINE OF TRACTORS! 100 deep!!!"
trinque: just make the HTML coders all grow their own damn food, keep them occupied. not as "envirowhiner" but "hands full, own life in them"
trinque: gotta have... corn! as far as the eye can see
mircea_popescu: (and ftr, the usians had been whining about it just about since ww2. rando with a "book" on the topic is about as relevant as pink.)
BingoBoingo: Mosquitoes are outdoor problem so you get to use BTi, which as complex protein is harmless unless immune system is bored and decides to bake an allergy
asciilifeform saw as a kid
asciilifeform: lol i bet petrol worx just as well
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: may as well compare to stamping bug with boot
asciilifeform: just as the replacement freons. because it wasn't about toxicity.
asciilifeform: teenagers ( as in subj of comic ) dun have plans.
mircea_popescu: anyway. they DID have this glare in eye liek exactly as described. as if they believed celestial mom and dad are preparing the feasrt for them, and they best but fidgetingly wait.
asciilifeform: you wouldn't invite a walrus to your table either ( other than perhaps as main course )
asciilifeform: 'At the appointed time, Our Benevolent Corporate Patriarchs would "lift the curtains" and invite us all into the wondrous Future they'd made ready for us. We'd all be welcome; the Future, by its very nature, was cheerful and inclusive. In the meantime, while they were getting it all ready, the corporations would allow us to experience the Future in short, controlled bursts, such as the World's Fair Expo, or Disney World's Tomorrowlan
mircea_popescu: ah, masquerade as tracert
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the most amusing part is how they keep adding the official fiat value to the shit, as if.
mircea_popescu: i sure as fuck would prefer the situation where i have to change half dozen asm quarter-pages to go from x86 to whatever than the current shitwolrd offering.
asciilifeform: though, i will point out, not on crapple, where static linking is thoroughly impossible as of late
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686568 << at this point you might even consider publishing the item as a v root under your own signature. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-19 16:35 asciilifeform: i only know him as a steady source of disconnectolade rubbish
mircea_popescu: curie happened as the domestic slave of a male ; not as an "equal partner" in a lesbo partnership.
asciilifeform: 'Murray Edwards College combines real academic excellence with strong pastoral support, as well as being a place where you can feel at home.'
mircea_popescu: these distinctions are as important as an yother distinctions in thought.
mircea_popescu: "the public" isn't happening anymore. democracy (as the modernist nonsense) is gone.
mircea_popescu: if not in their original bodies, then at least as emulated by pasty ass djb-wanna-bes.
asciilifeform: btw maybe 19 in 20, at this point, papers in 'crypto' are of this type. i.e. having exactly as much to do with genuine crypto as that caterpillar with the snake face has with actual snake.
mircea_popescu: and, as you say, continues.
asciilifeform: i only know him as a steady source of disconnectolade rubbish ☟︎
daffadil: Haha yes. As the paper currently presents, the system is not built for privacy, especially if it uses publicly-indexed databases. However I thought that the idea of using mutational randomness as a physical process to generate private keys was interesting.
asciilifeform: so nao naturally they'd like to trick some idiot, somewhere, into using their pre-indexed fauxotp as an otp...
asciilifeform: ( summary : ustards are fixated on 'escrowable' ciphers, as they were called in 1990s, but today they do not use the word . i.e. schemes for getting your privkey to be something THEY can access on a whim )
a111: Logged on 2015-04-02 14:59 asciilifeform: 'Identity-based encryption is a type of public-key encryption in which any arbitrary string (such as a user’s email address) can be used as a public key, enabling data to be protected without the need for long, randomly generated keys or certificates. Today, there are numerous standards for IBE based on Boneh’s work, including IEEE P1363.3 and several IETF RFCs.' << from the press release.
asciilifeform: 'It's also interesting to note that some miners are signalling to orphan themselves. Antpool, BTC.com, and BTC.top are all signalling for BIP 91 with bit 4, but are not signalling for segwit on bit 1. This means that once BIP 91 activates, if they don't change their version number (and it seems that this is a manual process as most mining pools set the version number manually), they will be orphaning their own blocks under the BIP 91
shinohai: Which leads to lulz such as: http://archive.is/YKyYa
asciilifeform: the confiscation of gnat from the idiots is inevitable. may as well begin with this.
shinohai: well, same error as mod6
shinohai: ave1 .... I got the same error as you (Have not looked into it further yet though)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-19#1686438 <<< yes, because you're applying the pretense of statics to a dynamic situation. trinque 's metaphore is very much factual : we were paradopped on hot coals, by the FAULT, inexcusable, and indelible, of our parents. they should have taken care that we do not get dropped on hot coals, as children barely able to move. they did not, and derelict in their first and practically speaking on ☝︎☟︎
sina: mircea_popescu: only as a matter of curiosity, given your worth re above statement, do you take any of these actions?
mircea_popescu: for as long as you're running the "awl" there are no solutions for this -- just mitigations. do not permit micrphones ; do not permit antennas ; use inductor&battery arrangements ; shoot anyone seen approaching the solitary hilltop fortress and so on and so forth ad infinitum.
trinque: absent asciilifeform's expertise which gave ^ as output, one'd just turn that into a totem
sina: but that is not congruent with actions taken, otherwise all here would treat their keys as compromised?
trinque: and meanwhile only sensible strategy would be to move quickly / step as few times as possible til off
sina: it's not an argument, only the next thought that pops into my head as a consequence of the discussion. all here seem on the same page re constanttime stuff, yet all here are using the tool in spite of that, so there must be some thought process which allows someone as reasonably paranoid as asciilifeform to do so, i.e. "I am not concerned with timing attacks of class X, Y, Z from adversary A, B,C when I
asciilifeform: the other practicality is that certain hypothetical uses of rsa -- such as specifically gossipd -- magnify this leak to the point where you are broadcasting the key at a few kHz
sina: which is fine, and I guess my point, because you must understand there is some adversary which can read your keys and some which cannot and you as of current, accept the risk
sina: right. so you use it, despite it being as "awlish" as anything?
sina: asciilifeform: if you would consider this question as a continuation of that thread rather than repeat, I'd appreciate
mircea_popescu: because the processor clicks slightly as it works ; and if you fork on secret bits you are thereby giving the secret bits away.
mircea_popescu: actual key recovery via acousting channel has been demonstrated recently ; power lines both in draw and as antenna have long been known to leak key bits.
mircea_popescu: as commonly implem,ented, yes.
sina: as commonly implemented
mircea_popescu: sina you mean, is there a side channel for constant time ops ? or for rsa as commonly implemented atm ?
mircea_popescu: arguably not as well made, either. the original had a lot of "boxes" and shit.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i was not proposing that as a flaw.
mircea_popescu: the discussion as to height of towers and men in prison is apropos.
whaack: i'm not advocating one doesn't make an effort to learn, I'm just pointing out that the material covered does not "fit in head" (as alf puts it) very easily and thus the main thing gotten from that book, for me at least, is the deep complexity involved with some of these schemes
mircea_popescu: well, whole point would be if the ugly fat kid would get the whole world to love him. but, fail that, picking and choosing which other's private keys can do what when will have to do as a substitute.
asciilifeform: 2 is NOT censored edition, it is more or less same as 1.
mircea_popescu: but thart's ok, as they actually breed the requisite sort of idiot themselves.
mircea_popescu: user705 inasmuch as it's not an idea, yeah. they all have the same ideas, being the same item.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-18#1686119 << This was exactly my case. I have same appreciation towards folx here as ag3nt_zer0. I bought first btc at $20 for purposes of silk road back in early 2014. Price quickly shot up. Found tardstalk 'securities'. I thought "Wow, pretty graphs and charts. Lemme try and catch the next boat11!" ☝︎
ag3nt_zer0: asciilifeform... I just mean there is a lot of noise and this place seems to be the clear signal... and I say "seems" simply because I don't understand it as well as I would need to dispose of that qualifier
mircea_popescu: so now -- why owning a ferrari is nothing, unles you can DO things with it, such as ride it around a clump of "your friends" ?
mircea_popescu: not simply because it empowers rapist-racist-pre-trump-trump-me, annoying as that may be ; but because it puts in question the integrity of their valuation mechanism.
trinque: "I want to plan for my future, as expediently as possible." ?
ag3nt_zer0: will display the correspnding pubkey... if it did this and everything matched can I take this as absolute that I am controlling and privkey will work when I want to send in 10 years?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the knowledge problem is not so simple as pictured here. husband may be at work but built camera into the floor long before he met the whore. phf may know re box but not care ( asciilifeform for instance regards contents of hdd of rental servers as sacrificial , esp after theft of the original dulap , etc )
mircea_popescu: that's one statement as to why we dun wanna be socialist. I DON'T WANT MY ABSENCE OF MIND STRUCTURED MOTHERFUCKERS.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170718/#143 << they're already 'eltsining' to death , with the good old bottle, no fancy dope needed necessarily << Not really, cars are too safe nowadays. With crumple zones it is hard to die as a drunk driver and the other alcoholic deaths take time. Also many of them ain't wired right to properly drink selves to death. Somehow their brains signal "drunk enough" and then they stop, I have no
mircea_popescu: correct play, too. he really has no interest in putting in the work to try and salvage the nonsense ; and the pantsuits will have a hell of a time arguing that "we put on the books laws that don't work because we expect they can be constantly patched as a matter of course -- and this is fine"
BingoBoingo: Well, there's manosphere community corners that promote the artificial testosteroning as the exact thing girly birth control is. Except with cool weight gain.
BingoBoingo: Of all the fake testosterones, Tren is the one that doesn't require supplementing with testosterone in order to allow boners, so popular. Does work as male birth control though.
BingoBoingo: Apparently according to his fake news outlet: "Most people know that online firearm sales create big loopholes that allow customers to bypass background checks—but who knew e-commerce pioneer Jeff Bezos was hawking guns like these?! The Amazon CEO and Washington Post owner showed up to an Idaho conference in a skintight T-shirt last week, displaying a set of arms most reasonable observers would classify as assault weapons."
mircea_popescu: ie, people will drop ~a specific form~ of a stupid idea just as soon as it's literally beaten from their cold, dead hands, AND NEVER BEFORE.
asciilifeform: though i imagine the plan of the pantshits is to cement the 'soft' fork as hard, somehow
mircea_popescu: (echo "obase=16" ; cat fct.txt) | bc >> fact-hex.txt works as expected to convert btw.
BingoBoingo: badD00d: TRB now WILL accept segwit blocks, but it will not parse the segwit'd portion as anything other than "anyone can spend"
mircea_popescu: the notion that bitcoin can somehow by stolen by name is so ridoinculous as to betray its ustardian origins. bitcoin is not a name. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: if the us fed starts printing "one hundred bitcoin" bills instead of the current one hundred dollar bills, this'll also do ~nothing as far as nayone is concerned.
badD00d: I am wondering if you have an estimation as to when this will be and as a second questions (if TRB nodes will be the ONLY non-shit accepting nodes, or if you think there are other groups of people running nodes that will side with your nodes and continue rejecting shit
mircea_popescu: they're consuming teh fiat dollars as it is, doesn't seem to have much impact on anything.
asciilifeform: and rejection liquishit tomorrow just as it did yesterday.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-17 13:32 asciilifeform: live is too short to attempt to use eyeballs as diff.
asciilifeform: about the same time as when amd stopped contributing to 'coreboot'
asciilifeform: the demise of sage co. is imho an interesting thing. afaik amd very specifically killed it -- locked the debug port, as explained in http://btcbase.org/log/2016-10-04#1552690 ☝︎
floog: well, the intro seems all too relevant to my current situation as a "software engineer" at a hightraffic clickbait website
deedbot: 7B308B69A7CD283E3B7549DBE9B833266594AD15 is already registered as floog.
floog: im trying to understand the purpose of V.from the python code it seems like some sort of interpersonal network tool, but that's about as far as i've been able to get