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a111: Logged on 2018-12-21 06:29 mircea_popescu:
http://irreal.org/blog/ << for the lulz files. incidentally, when
i think "emacs user"
i think of this moron, "omg you guys .org -> .tex -> .pdf is a great work-flow for sharing information. It's like #inception though - first #emacs became my OS and now everything
I create in Emacs is becoming an #Orgmode file. First
I started doing all my writing in Emacs (and later, of course, as much of everything else as
I could) and the
mircea_popescu:
http://irreal.org/blog/ << for the lulz files. incidentally, when
i think "emacs user"
i think of this moron, "omg you guys .org -> .tex -> .pdf is a great work-flow for sharing information. It's like #inception though - first #emacs became my OS and now everything
I create in Emacs is becoming an #Orgmode file. First
I started doing all my writing in Emacs (and later, of course, as much of everything else as
I could) and the
☟︎ mircea_popescu: and there's no sarcasm nor any subtext at all there.
i'm not gonna tell you what to do with your women in general, but by the time what you're doing is driven by "what will wife's daddy think", you fucked up.
mircea_popescu: depends whose, it is not for me to say, nor am
i interested in saying.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
i am entirely not proposing any others ~have their mothers do~ anything specific, this or that.
i am saying though, and plainly, that the sort of people whose mothers ~don't do what they tell them to~ это уже наполовину тетка.
mircea_popescu: if you ever wondered about the deluge of crossdressers -- this is exactly it,
i'm sure. in the immortal words of Weston Amsbury Liggett, "to beat everyone, including you, to the punch".
mircea_popescu: which, incidentally, is why the sort of familiarity-breeds-all-
i-need morons "don't get math". boys, especially engineertards, may think her legs carefully exposed so as to "resolve" the "hot but not hot enough for the girlgroup to say slut" "dilemma" pass ; but math never fucking passes, it's always a case of either the way or the highway.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-20 00:39 mircea_popescu: it takes stronger distorsion fields than
i'm willing to run, the entertaining of this particular flavour of "but nevertheless"
mircea_popescu:
i've not spoken to my mother since 2015. we were always very close, and
i always liked her, enough so that three decades together didn't produce any cause of rupture. yet somehow, somewhere along the way she got the idea she has the option of venue, and it's up to her whether to be here or not.
mircea_popescu: it'd be a lot more relatable if you managed these things more like
i do and less like a rabid pubescent wolverine.
mircea_popescu: in short : you (correctly) insist because it hasn't been proven not to be ; and
i am not particularly taken because it doesn't seem to have been. these are different measures.
mircea_popescu: so then, thing can sit as it sits,
i don't expect to persuade you (and
i see the merit in "pre-republic, engineers===morons".
i just don't see why this should be perpetuated, hence original "bag of lulz" comment.
mircea_popescu:
i think
i have reason to suspect ~the people who made it~ are ~not more notable~ than say amir taaki.
mircea_popescu: it takes stronger distorsion fields than
i'm willing to run, the entertaining of this particular flavour of "but nevertheless"
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2018-12-19 22:49 phf: asciilifeform: fwiw
i didn't ignore your point.
i don't trust you with this stuff, and not because you're not trustworthy, but because you refuse to be discreet when asked to be. and again since this will be misconstrued,
i'm not saying keep things secret,
i was specifically asking you to _quitely_ use the products of my work.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-19 22:28 phf: mircea_popescu:
i've given a more nuanced answer over the logs.
i've said that stuff from last year is junk,
i'm not sure about stuff from this year, because
i haven't inspected it yet. short of asciilifeform's periodic jabs, there was simply no reason to dedicate more time to it, considering that from a useful work perspective this is seen as a hobby, and
i already have a backlog of things
i actually need to be working on.
phf: asciilifeform: fwiw
i didn't ignore your point.
i don't trust you with this stuff, and not because you're not trustworthy, but because you refuse to be discreet when asked to be. and again since this will be misconstrued,
i'm not saying keep things secret,
i was specifically asking you to _quitely_ use the products of my work.
☟︎ phf:
i made that point clear also,
i believe he will spoil my hunt. he explicitly told me he will! as far as love for quarry,
i assume that this particular log can potentially reach the quarry in question, and
i suspect his reaction is not going to be to join the republic.
phf: mircea_popescu:
i've given a more nuanced answer over the logs.
i've said that stuff from last year is junk,
i'm not sure about stuff from this year, because
i haven't inspected it yet. short of asciilifeform's periodic jabs, there was simply no reason to dedicate more time to it, considering that from a useful work perspective this is seen as a hobby, and
i already have a backlog of things
i actually need to be working on.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: phf you want to say "if
i can't discriminate then why am
i lord", then you turn around and it's "either
i have something or
i don't have something." well, discriminate, which is it ?
mircea_popescu: phf
i never heard of scavenger taking the loving tack to the quarry. usually scavenger sounds like alf sounds.
phf: mircea_popescu: well,
i don't think this is quite like chasing women,
i think of it more as a scavenger hunt.
mircea_popescu: phf this whole "
i care about the relationship for the stuff it can produce" is very like what proust'd said.
mircea_popescu: not so far from monkeys, either, consider how the thing went, 1998-2018. but
i think the thread's not worth rehashing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so
i have some air stashed away,
i'll live.
mircea_popescu: yeah but
i mean, capable when producing what etcetera.
i never pursued a woman in my life, nor do
i intend to ever start ;
i hold no grudges for those who do, but you do understand ~an entire half of the species~ survived to the present day by ~exploting~ this behaviour of yours, yes ?
☟︎ phf: mircea_popescu:
i care about the relationship for the stuff it can produce.
i think
i'm stuck in circular here. either
i have nothing, and then the relationship have no value, but then this conversation is pointless. or else
i have something, and the relationship is indeed capable of producing stuff.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-14 20:10 asciilifeform: apeloyee: the other thing to consider, is that the preserved bolix material has ~unspeakably~ rich ( and quite high snr ) collection of artifacts, perhaps 1000 asciilifeform-years of work. take the ns vlsi compiler alone.
i have the binaries, but not the src. and ~someone~ will have to make a sane (
i.e. fully lispified and zero-externals) vlsitron.
mircea_popescu: and moreover, from the other side, "fiat bolix, pereat mundus, ruat caelum" ? "
i am ~so dedicated~ to reconstructing this 80s atari,
i am willing to spend however long living with and among fucktarded orc populations, at the risk of my brain rotting like boas'" ? did you actually think this through and that's how it came out ?
a111: Logged on 2018-12-19 21:32 phf: that's not a promise that
i made, and this is a misrepresentation of my position. unfortunately
i can't find the relevant pgpgram, but
i believe
i made it clear that
i don't want this publically discussed, because obviously if any of the interested parties were to read this conversation, their reaction would be "waitaminute".
i never the less offered to share what
i have, but
i never got a confirmation that you can just keep quite on
a111: Logged on 2018-12-19 21:00 asciilifeform: and especially , deliberately unfriendly to whoever profits from the seekrederpery. in fact,
i will know when my reversing has succeeded when a bolix collector somewhere at last eats his pistol because his $100k stash of irons is now worth == 8bit nintendo.
trinque: asciilifeform:
I believe it, as this thread reads like mutually talking straight past.
phf:
i got it, there's the honest proper asciilifeform way which is all success stories and high ratings. and then there's the usg, cuck way of actually talking to people.
phf: actually
i'm not sure
i said it in the logs, so my bad.
i want a fully operational bolix fpga, or in the future other type of replica, complete with genera sources and other such bells and whistles
phf: asciilifeform:
i don't believe me repeating myself on this point will make a difference,
i've already said it, but you've already made your conclusions.
phf: yes, my whole goal is to have a bunch of useless bolix junk, that
i can mallory on top till
i die.
phf: asciilifeform: you're making selective conclusions from what
i'm saying,
i don't see any point in further communicating my point.
phf: yes, and it can continue this way, until
i either have non-0, or it all amounts to nothing. how's that a problem? it's my fucking work.
phf: from this conversation, where's
i potentially do. fucking three years of relationship building.
phf: asciilifeform: there was already _one_ conversation,
i made my _conclusions_. your adventage is that you can basically just rant in the open, make insulting fucking statements in "general direction" of those bolix whisperers. where's
i lose by having this in public record.
i told you as much _at the very beginning_. but you clearly shit on my efforts,
i mean you have been saying as much in public for a year, so you don't lose anything
phf: and more important how can
i trust you into the process if your basic approach on the subject is shoot from the hip?
phf: this personal, on top of the fact that it low key compromises what
i'm trying to do?
phf: look
i told you about the stuff basically as soon as
i came back _from a photoshoot_, gigs of photos, need to be sorted through.
i communicated as much. the whisperer stuff started way before
i had a chance to do anything about it.
i mean what the fuck. it's like "
i'm the greatest bolix liberator, and everyone else working towards it is an obscurantist and a cunt, unless they blog their shit right now". how am
i not supposed to take
phf: where's the reality as
i see it, is that you were offered some stuff, and your reaction was
i'm my own king
i do as
i want
phf: the subject. perhaps
i should've made it clear that _knowledge gained this way is yours to keep_. in response
i got constant, year long abuse directed _as
i believe it was_ at least partially my way about whisperes and conspiracies.
phf: that's not a promise that
i made, and this is a misrepresentation of my position. unfortunately
i can't find the relevant pgpgram, but
i believe
i made it clear that
i don't want this publically discussed, because obviously if any of the interested parties were to read this conversation, their reaction would be "waitaminute".
i never the less offered to share what
i have, but
i never got a confirmation that you can just keep quite on
☟︎ mircea_popescu: could for the same money have "hey phf--
i know
i said so and so in the past, but truth be told now
i got these chips and
i'd like to get some work done, so how about..."
a111: Logged on 2018-12-19 20:04 asciilifeform: nao, if phf thinks that asciilifeform cracking the case ~at all~ will 'unmask' phf's informant, this is a problem. chiefly for phf's informant, because
i ~will~ rape bolix, whether anyone helps or not