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a111: Logged on 2017-04-05 23:00 asciilifeform: but as a massively-distributed long-term backup, aluminum is ~unbeaten -- it's probably the only reason asciilifeform was able to find a copy of genera
asciilifeform: may as well scan then, neh
asciilifeform: sorta why it worx as a cap
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think he said as much.
mircea_popescu: let it be clearly stated that there's no such thing in nature as the isolated republican. true thay you may be busy working for a long time, but in the end, isolated citizen == cpu without i/o.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 17:26 mircea_popescu: the scheme DOES for instance require people maintain non-internet connections, and in general : multimedium links. because otherwise the night of no internet means the end of the republic as such.
mircea_popescu: the scheme DOES for instance require people maintain non-internet connections, and in general : multimedium links. because otherwise the night of no internet means the end of the republic as such. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1688363 "as good as it ever will" sort of thing. ☝︎
asciilifeform: '“Fact-toxic” information pertains to actual truths which, the document complains, are “exposed in the absence of context”, and therefore poison “important political discourse.” Such information is seen as being most potent in triggering outbreaks of civil unrest , because it: “… fatally weakens foundational security at an international, regional, national, or personal level. Indeed, fact-toxic exposures are those lik ☟︎
ave1: as said, it's mostly https://bitbucket.org/GregorR/musl-cross/ + patches to get ada to work in it
mircea_popescu: this is no small matter, but touching to the very trunk of the tree of wisdom. inept schoolboy hitler saw WORDS proferred by anglo-sybils in new york as DEEDS of the jews. instead of embracing germany's jews and putting forth the god-obvious "those anglo muppets are jews like ford made tin cans are cars", cut them at the knees of their entirely absent legitimacy and then let the experts (all on his side) wipe the floor with t
mircea_popescu: and it permitted women in the first and fundamental sense of, allowing they are human. not as rabbis, and not usually educated in the formal yeshiva sense. but it did teach them to write and read, which was entirely novel.
asciilifeform: it is mistake to picture it as 'living fossil' of 1700s j000z ?
mircea_popescu: "love of god as dancing" and what have you.
mircea_popescu: the hassids permitted. it's complicated, but, in the context of judaism (which is STRICTLY an eastern european affair, just as "united states" will not be a thing of hawaii even long after the continent is no longer us and the island still clings to history), hasidism was a sort of 1800s 1960s. flower power all the way.
asciilifeform: can easily picture, having as it happens already been 'captured by africans'
trinque: which amounts to a reference to USG as a thing with singular agency.
mircea_popescu: the ocean stays the ocean in this discussion for just as long as no one made it ; and not a minute longer. electricity, witness, no longer any kind of god.
mircea_popescu: "usg as god" is about as laughable as all the iconodule fare. really, you've made this god-box ? you did ?
mircea_popescu: nah. central america, retarded as planks. polynesia, dumber than the average horse. coast of africa off zanzibar ? i think i saw cupcakers with more iq.
mircea_popescu: as the wise jew once said, "here's a bunch of pennies, let god keep what he needs and let the rest fall back down"
asciilifeform: trinque: a beehive is not a man. but there is such a thing as a bee-keeper.
asciilifeform: trinque: segshitness was in re 'we'll stop signing our tx so as to fit Moar in per block, and rando can Never! spend'em because of this other turd we shat out nowhere near the actual blockchain but Miners Will Enforce' approx
asciilifeform: trinque: there is eternal 'megablox' derp, never goes so far as to fork for some odd reason
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform robber who uses "laws" is properly known as whore, not robber. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-02-27 12:30 mircea_popescu: (story there was, olympus "hired" aka finally accepted its first foreign devil ceo (michael woodford) in 2011 ; and fired him two weeks later as the dude was principally dedicated to the job of, how can we finance usg out of this japanese corp. the usg however didn't go home, but started "legal proceedings", which eventually resulted in the above theft, plus whatever office supplies woodford managed to take home. apparently 6
asciilifeform: on the day that it stops chasing after folx playing usg-in-miniature , may as well close shop neh
mircea_popescu: If Jewish gangsters still thrived today, if they hadn't gone legit, if Jews of my generation didn't regard them as figments, creatures to be classed with Big Foot and the Loch Ness monster, I think the Jewish community would be better off.[11] ”
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> beelzebub answers prayers. but only as he knows how : with moar flies. << Gotta be you own devil
mircea_popescu: anner. not because he hates her as she's his only lay (and willingly and freely given, at that) but because subtle differences of no actual substance are important to him as the basis and guarantee of the imagined substance of his own self.
asciilifeform: beelzebub answers prayers. but only as he knows how : with moar flies.
mircea_popescu: one of these -- cares. as per the definition of the terms.
asciilifeform: few thing folx hate moar than the liquishit they ~rely~ on as sole sustenance
mircea_popescu: generally, the cab's "rolled eyes" is almost never in the form of "great american novel". he'll disapprove loudly of the whores, for instance, even as he depends on them for his only sexual outlet.
asciilifeform: 'end of ru 90s' is sometimes presented as 'low hanging loot ran out'. tru or not ?
asciilifeform: interestingly, when asciilifeform worked as a pro collector and reverser of virii - found, to great sadness, that the 'art' mostly died.
asciilifeform: i did it as sport.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 20:06 mircea_popescu: the proposition that we'd end up with a sort of uci-as-nsa and l1-as-subtstitute-for-dnc is very much the proposition that, "you know what ? inca also corrupts"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687893 << no it wasn't same derp see, as per ancient south park, ustards are allowed to be "different" when need be. ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'While he was working in the kiosk (it went on for a little less than a year), Tatarsky acquired two new qualities. The first was a cynicism as boundless as the view from the Ostankino television tower; the second was something quite remarkable and inexplicable. Tatarsky only had to glance at a customer's hands to know whether he could short-change him and by exactly how much, whether he could be insulting to him, w
asciilifeform: given as i missed out on the pleasure of the '90s in person, and he -- not
asciilifeform: i'll confess that i always pictured phf as literally the hero from 'generationp'
asciilifeform: ( set him up as a relay for whatever type of pr0n is banned where he is, leak his cc, etc )
asciilifeform: can milk cow. if it gives milk. whole puzzle was, as i understand, 'can haz milk? or go straight to meat'
BingoBoingo: Not charlatanism so much as Jewthink
asciilifeform: given as he has a right-move oracle installed in him, and dun have to think any moves ahead
mircea_popescu: dumbfounding shitnonsense is this anyway. i do the things i do because they ARE! the right things to do. present fucking tense. not because i'm hopping such and such a tomorrow as'll make them retrospectively the right things. wtf is even this, inflatothink.
asciilifeform: if you own -- as in built with own hands
asciilifeform: as i understand it -- dichotomy
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 20:13 mircea_popescu: but as to the practical knot - i dun wanna squeeze idiots for anything. to begin with, the very definition of idiocy assures me they have nothing i want.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687493 << there is certainly a "minimum safe count". the issue is that just like with bitcoin -- the actual count increases as the item grows. so "waiting to polish it moar" not necessarily winning strategy. then again, too early not winning strategy either. ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ~everyone there's sick of the "rich" arab nations as of crab apples. << Poor crab apples, many are enslaved as the plumbing that allows fruiting apples to live. This is a rich metaphor space.
mircea_popescu: ~everyone there's sick of the "rich" arab nations as of crab apples. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687258 << absolutely not. if usg fell into the sea tomorrow, turkey would ally with israel and probably iran against the rest of the weirdos. and they'd throw such an arab peninsula rape party as the world's never seen. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 17:54 pete_dushenski: some russian hardware too, and increasingly chinese as per http://archive.is/xhzQI
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> as it stands currently, the russians will have the last jet much like the germans have the last car. << But as we learned from pete_dushenski,sometimes the lawnmower's more fun
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 17:57 pete_dushenski: in other rough regions, the usg 'left' is still confuzed as fuck http://archive.is/X9fwz
trinque: heh, then the next one should be just as lulzy
mircea_popescu: as it stands currently, the russians will have the last jet much like the germans have the last car.
pete_dushenski: great, now i'm imagining black footlong dongs as ceiling mobiles. THIS IS BAD FOR CHILDREN MKDAY
mircea_popescu: but as to the practical knot - i dun wanna squeeze idiots for anything. to begin with, the very definition of idiocy assures me they have nothing i want. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i do not want anything in particular ; but i do observe and therefore declare that as water flows to lower ground and as good money pushes out the bad so too better computers own shittier computers and there's jack shit me or you or them or anyone can do about this.
asciilifeform: as i see it the 2 are disjoint
mircea_popescu: anyway, but the tendency is there, your mind is "oh, mircea_popescu os". except i've no intention to mircea_popescu os anyone as such.
asciilifeform: i read the original uci proposal as straight weapon of us vs them
mircea_popescu: the proposition that we'd end up with a sort of uci-as-nsa and l1-as-subtstitute-for-dnc is very much the proposition that, "you know what ? inca also corrupts" ☟︎
asciilifeform: could describe both as having run an ill-conceived winblowz, originally, that bsoded in the end in the same way
asciilifeform: i.e. where market re-prices the faux-carpenter as pork on the hoof per pound ?
mircea_popescu: so : there obviously is such a thing as "mainstream society". people meet, get married, have kids watch tv whatever. there ALSO is such a thing as "a bdsm community".
mircea_popescu: well if l1 ends up as a skirt to hide inca into that'd be one sad fucking outcome.
asciilifeform: just as no diff bw a tennis ball and moon
trinque: asciilifeform: sounds like you're thinking of UCI as one giant virtual machine atop which godman inca runs his programs
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 15:19 mircea_popescu: and entirely unrelatedly : anyone willing to stand up an irc bot for me (as a service for hire deal) and expose some kind of programmable interface that can read messages to it, process and push out a reply ? bonus points if i don't have to learn crazy-shitstick-"$modernlanguage".
asciilifeform: think of it as the ~opposite~ problem to mircea_popescu's hash func.
asciilifeform: ( even if nn is used today -- it is in fact used very sparingly, and in combination with other algos , rather than as universal engine as originally envisioned )
asciilifeform: describe a model of computation that is 1) usefully complete -- can carry out actual work 2) is substantially non-brittle - i.e. flipping 20% of the bits results in something that is only, say, 20% away from, but still recognizable as the original performer, rather than liquishit
mircea_popescu: back to the topic : the idea is to have properly arranged owned boxes. this will include gossipd as a basis, uci on top of that if the OWNer opts to, bitcoind on top of that likely, a devenv, whatever.
asciilifeform: in original description of uci, was described as 'cpu cycle by the pound' sort of affair
asciilifeform: you also want that nobody can affect how the net works by bringing 9000 of his own As to the table.
mircea_popescu: as for computers -- so for biosacks.
asciilifeform: sorta as british admiral answered 'boil the ocean' to 'is there a solution to uboat'
asciilifeform: ( as alluded to in http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-23#1660666 ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: it is a problem in the same way as it is for trb.
asciilifeform: ^ or as pictured here, C
mircea_popescu: and will discover peers and act as a peer beacon for others and so on.
mircea_popescu: as long as at least one of them actually works, the box is now connected. and will stay connected.
mircea_popescu: you put, on the box you own, whatever list of your peers as you deem fit.
mircea_popescu: it can be solved, by peers, as above. as long as some kind of net exists. any kind.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not at all. strictly like as you see all around today.
asciilifeform: it can't really be vanished away without killing 'tcp to arsebook' etc also. as i currently understand it.
mircea_popescu: the whole "will never as long as www" bullshit is just a larger cycle pwnat delusion.
asciilifeform: there are some invariant 'holes' that will never close so long as the thing has to pass www
asciilifeform: which is a reasonable answer, but why package it as 'solution'
asciilifeform: there must NOT BE any such thing as 'S'.
asciilifeform: it ain't a solution if it merely redefines the problem as 'the way life is'
asciilifeform: as BingoBoingo's 'big book' reminds.
mircea_popescu: this is ALSO good : breask the ip-box bijectivity, as was intention all along transparently throughout spec docs.
asciilifeform: so as things presently work, nobody can connect ~to~ them.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here's the thing : we don't actually have the problem of nat traversal. in the following sense : gossipd is not intended to work without introduction. as part of the introduction, the introducer server can provide ips. those can then be used for everything, bitcoind, you name it.
asciilifeform: in so far as the net is concerned, imho this is ~the~ openproblem.