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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i didnt try patching out the test ( given as it's got montgomery, the answer will be soup ) but did try for odd exp, got ~same~ as for the nonconstanttime gmp knob ( which is pretty hilarious, means that they dun do anything differently for 'constant time' variant, evidently )
mircea_popescu: patch out the test, i guess. they're "clever" like that.
mircea_popescu: that they are. i mean nothing wrong with having, and it's an achievement for say nicoleci to get herself one ; but i wouldn't base design decisions on them.
asciilifeform: i dun see what, if anything, is lost if they were thrown.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have plain old tcp with 'pehbot' ( via trinque's cl proggy )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-02#1883857 << i suspect you might be able to get a plain connection going ; worth checking. ☝︎
asciilifeform: could; i have nfi.
asciilifeform: to the point that some folx used expression 'so-and-so was mothballed' (i.e. 'in conservation')
mircea_popescu: "i also wonder why all these rich folks gather round and laugh their asses at us, the goddess' chosen folk, all the damn time"
mircea_popescu: you know ? "i wonder how come all holocaust survivors live so long".
asciilifeform: ( i.e. loox like they use montgomery's algo. )
asciilifeform: if one absolutely insists on that feature, prolly Right Thing would be to patch bot so can hang off a znc ( i tried this with own hands, but failed, the existing item is apparently tailored to fleanode-direct connection )
asciilifeform: trinque: hm, apparently i was wrong about this, it only demands sslism if yer using cloaks
asciilifeform: ( plox to correct if i'm mistaken here )
trinque: I've noticed some problems with tls connections on openbsd using sbcl and cl+ssl, here and elsewhere actually.
asciilifeform: mats: i haven't built anyffing useful from ice40 with own hands yet. but, interestingly, when bought a 'scsi2sd' device for replacing disk in bolix box, found that author in fact used ice40 for the job ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i use it every day lol.
mats: and a special thanks to phf for his great www logger! i use it every other day
lobbes: Besides that, I agree; I've yet to meet a recruiter who actually knew the job they were filling. For the most part they are just checking boxes on a list of 'keywords' the company's $hr-department gave them (and half the time that hr dept is also blindly following this list)
a111: Logged on 2019-01-01 04:15 Mocky: i've just started looking in charlotte recently lobbes. Other than passing on your resume if you're deemed worth, not sure a recruiter ever does anything on behalf of the the candidate
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/i-dont-get-it/ << Trilema -- I don't get it...
Mocky: i've just started looking in charlotte recently lobbes. Other than passing on your resume if you're deemed worth, not sure a recruiter ever does anything on behalf of the the candidate ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-12-31 03:42 Mocky: I think my employability is pretty close to epsilon. I may end up removing asbestos for 18 bucks an hour. This is going to be a setback.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-31#1883793 << Mocky, if you feel like moving to the cardboard-cutout city of charlotte there's a glut of 'high paying' 'move these meaningless bits around for robo hitler' jobs . If you want I can give you a recruiter contact that worked for me ☝︎
lobbes: And while I will continue the above described archive process, right now I have too many irons in fire to work on making a proper archive.is substitute. (Imo, this'd be a perfect area for an hero to step in)
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-28#1883486 << just to clarify, lobbesbot atm only downloads the archives ~from archive.is~. (I.e. when archive.is croaks we will have the archive ~history~ but no means of archiving going forward) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: BUT THEN!!! i had some raisins marinating in [the world's finest] rum overnight for hanbot's cozonac making ; and of course there were leftovers, and what can you do, they went into the batch of mint cocoa popsicles being brewed.
mircea_popescu: at which point our story starts to flesh out : one day in recent memory i tried out this popsicle stick on apple juice, and holy hell it';s great. so now in an exploration mood, i tried out the cocoa in them, and OMFG, excellent icecream!
mircea_popescu: yet there it sat, because really, who the hell drinks instant cocoa. until a few months ago, i can't even recall when, we bought a popsicle kit. which, you know, take bimbos out to plastic joystore, what are you going to end up with, makeshift dildos and popsicle sets.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in better living through technology : illo tempore i had bought a tin of (actually very delicious) instant mint cocoa. cuz we were doing the whole check out the wonder of colonial goodies, and we pretty much brought all the britt things (fine brand of local chocolateria).
mircea_popescu: impossible to fucking evaluate, this. "the resume is getting me interviews [with the sort of people it gets me interviews with ; while not getting me interviews with the sort of people it doesn't get me interviews with. what am i to do ?]".
Mocky: the resume gets me interviews. if I wasn't getting interviews I'd worry more about the resume.
diana_coman: Mocky, I'd expect nothing really moves at this time of the year really; but anyway, for my curiosity: what gives then if "good interest" but no job?
Mocky: nicoleci, thx. I get good interest from the resume so I can't blame that. Just gotta keep with the crank winding.
nicoleci: Mocky, unfortunately, i used to work hr - let me know if i can help with your resume, interviewing or anything else.
Mocky: I might as fucking well
Mocky: mircea_popescu, maybe it will in the morning. I need some sleep
Mocky: I added it to my list hanbot. technically all my time is free time now, but it tastes like shit
lobbesbot: Mocky: Sent 4 days, 6 hours, and 41 minutes ago: <hanbot> eulora bot feature request: ability to reject mining claims by type. for instance mining bn costs me moar than merely striking it with a tool; i've gotta sink materials into it, whereas the resulting bn isn't worth the cost of those materials to me atm. 'ignore bn' or somesuch would be really useful.
Mocky: I think my employability is pretty close to epsilon. I may end up removing asbestos for 18 bucks an hour. This is going to be a setback. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: was there a more spurious empire in the history of africa ? i get it, niggers can't compete with humans. but even among the chimps, they're competing ~the wrong end~.
BingoBoingo: In other news, one of the fucking Pichis tried walking a database. This morning I was in the shower when the Porteria Electrica rang. The voice on the other end had a thick accent I couldn't understand, so I offered "un momento", put on clothes, and went to the door of the building...
asciilifeform: in other lulz, asciilifeform recently disasmed a raid card fw turd ( of the type found in dulap, s.mg, and several other boxes asciilifeform built ) ; turned out that it's ~little-endian ppc~, which i had nfi even existed; and on top of this, built in ~cpp~, which is also a 1st on my watch in re fwturds
trinque: aaand I'm all set on uy1
trinque: I've got a weechat built in my homedir too, so no rush or pressure on putting it systemwide.
BingoBoingo: <trinque> http://pizarroisp.net/2018/03/23/pizarro-shared-hosting-a-screaming-deal-for-0003-btcmo/ << also says here you'll provide a weechat << I'll add reading through the old posts to the to do list.
BingoBoingo: I'll put some time into reading up on weechat. The opposition is at the moment I just don't know much about it.
trinque: I can also just build it myself I suppose
BingoBoingo: trinque: I have not set up a Weechat before. If the hosting lacks something weechat needs, I can consult with asciilifeform to remedy that so you can get weechat running. I but I am not familiar enough with weechat to do setups for customers myself at the present time.
trinque: BingoBoingo: at your convenience may I have a weechat in my shared hosting account?
asciilifeform: thus far i've found that ffa speed is almost exact function of cpu clock (for given bitness of cpu)
mod6: *nod* I thought it was pretty speedy tbh.
mod6: I'll make some blog posts (eventually) when i go through setting up cuntoo and the musltronic GNAT from ave1.
mod6: Haven't had a chance to build it yet. I will do so, and a cuntoo when I get a chance.
mod6: The one caviat about the timings is that I had to take out some of the inlines and pragmas to make it compile correctly. my GNAT 2015 version seems to have some funkyness to it -- we've actually discussed this before. Wanna just see a wotpaste?
mod6: asciilifeform: congrats btw! I've been attempting very much not to read ahead or anything, I still need to work through the chapters. I did however build all of the latest keccak vpatches in your vtree. I did some timings on my old test blox (core2duo) if you're curious.
billymg: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-27#1883449 < quick update: using diana_coman's keccak-compatible v.pl, the vpatch i posted before pressed without issue. will write up a blog post with details on the patch, and another post with the patch for the svg file links ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( i.e. sequence where only ADD, SUB, MUL, SHR/SHL, MOV, all the way from head to toe , a,b,c in, a^b mod c comes out )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: sadly i do not know how to 'guarantee perfection'. all i know how to do is to bake maximally 'fits in head' and bank that the folx here will find mistake if it turns out that i made one. ☟︎
diana_coman: fwiw I like very much that "pedantic" there
diana_coman: that being said, I dug up and yes, I even have an i7 around here
diana_coman: that's precisely why the slow pace - I need a bit of fresher mind to get back and read through the rest of ffa
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I'll try to get to it but more probably in January really
asciilifeform: ( i.e. thing is siliconizable, in principle. )
a111: Logged on 2017-10-08 00:20 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-07#1722411 << 1 ) ffa is closed form. i.e. it CAN be written as a number of nand gates, with a 'funnel' at the top, to which you present a,b,c, e.g. 4096bit, numbers, and at the bottom in a little cup you get a^b mod c , and with NO UPWARDS FEEDBACK FLOW of information , i.e. answer comes after same interval of time always, and with strictly downwards signals.
mircea_popescu: not even ff reached 255 yet. but anyway, i think this is exhausted
asciilifeform: i'll be surprised if i haven't nailed the last comment typo by the time done adding chapter-sized knobs, tbh
mircea_popescu: in short : "why not say the magic number 3 ?" "because maybe i need to fix a typo, and i dun wanna lose 1 out of 3 for this, but i do wanna fix it" "so how do you know 1 in 255 is ok to lose for this ?" "um http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-18#1686299 " ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-12-28 17:15 mircea_popescu: seems to me the unspoken heuristic is, "large enough so it's not meaningful [and therefore large enough to not bother] and small enough so it's not larger than some other number i thought about".
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-28#1883605 << it is impossible to defend against this criticism, as formulated, so i won't try ☝︎
mircea_popescu: seems to me the unspoken heuristic is, "large enough so it's not meaningful [and therefore large enough to not bother] and small enough so it's not larger than some other number i thought about". ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if someone knows how to make ffa moar 'docs is the program'-y, oughta write in and tell asciilifeform , cuz i came as close to it as i knew how.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if i v-versioned the ~docs~, we'd be at 50-ish, nao, i suppose
asciilifeform: the declaration i want to make with 'kelvins' is that there is such a thing as a correct program.
asciilifeform: which can carry some qty of change ( i hold to the practice of keeping'em reasonably compact )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i know, but not all vpatches are created equal.
mircea_popescu: the larger problem is "what is meant by a patch". i doubt the item can survive ~even one~ major alterations. meanwhile "hey, you spelled theyre with an apostrophe" needn't be counted (but need be fixed)
asciilifeform: fwiw i gave orig vtron, 'v.py' , 100. it's on 97 (phf's revision) and when i get around to massaging it, i suppose will be 96, and i dunsee why to touch it again after that..
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the discussion spawned from me going "wtf is the POINT of even counting to 255, nobody can fit such in head" that then merged into "how do you know ?" which resulted in the predictable "i wonder how the fuck does ~he~ know"
asciilifeform: incidentally i expected mircea_popescu to say '255 is laughably generous'
asciilifeform: i.e. 'if this thing needs >255 vpatches after today, then asciilifeform is a tard and somebody else ought to do the whole fucking job over'
mircea_popescu: nature found 273.15 i suppose the same way it computed ocean level ; but we're not quite equal to nature.
mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure how that kelvin thing's supposed to work ; notably bothj knuth and mod6 attempted it, but the problem with starting with a number is that you don't know what to pick.
asciilifeform: ( which reminds me, i still have a bolix post queued on conveyor )
asciilifeform: btw i expect that on moar recent irons, with gigantic caches, diff will be even moar palpable
asciilifeform: ( i.e. that branch predictor nukes ~all~ win from skipping zeros )
mircea_popescu: anyway, sorry if i inadvertently rained. tis indeed great news, and it being expected great news dun detract from greatness.
asciilifeform: ( which i suspect is largely cribbed, but i dun specifically know from where )
mircea_popescu: yeah but i mean...
asciilifeform: i.e. you win moar from not upending the cache, than you lose by doing erry single bit of modexp and muxing.
asciilifeform: turns out, the entire justification for use of branching in rsa at all, is bogus. ( and 'short exps' aint a justification -- if you know the max length of your e in advance, you can use fixed exponentiator , same as i do )
asciilifeform: but i expect ffa-cum-asmism will still beat shit out of koch-cum-asmism
asciilifeform: incidentally, it's a 'fair fight', i.e. both ch14 ffa and mpi-koch lack asmism
asciilifeform: until hr ago i was deadly certain that it couldn't
mircea_popescu: Turns out, Koch’s pile of shit, despite eschewing constant time arithmetic, and being implemented in Overflowandcrashlang… loses the footrace, when given a full-width modular exponentiation (i.e. one where it cannot cheat by skipping over leading zeroes.)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i got these too !
mircea_popescu: i hope i didn't say something to offend teh russki patriot, did i ? http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-20#1882391 is just a neutral observation, not in any sense ~my fault~ they're morons. ☝︎
asciilifeform: what i had, was a lightly patched 'qemu' (removed all the 'acceleration' nonsense that wants to run as root and then gets you owned)
asciilifeform: i had emulators successfully running even winblowz 7, etc.
asciilifeform: btw i'm not aware that he published his complete mechanism. ( did he ? )