mircea_popescu: (that article, btw, remarkable because i told ro bezos "Si, draga Varanule, nu-i clar ca mai ai cinci ani" ie, "dear reptile, it's not clear you have five years left" in 2012 -- by 2014 he was in jail. because hey, mp is right now and again accidentally which is to say 1024/1024 occurences on his blog etc etc) ☟︎

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you may think what you wish ; i've seen the fetards and i know better.

mircea_popescu: oh, you mean the ipad ? i think they cut off what he was trying to say.

mircea_popescu: i get the "takes less space than mouse" etc. it just seems bulky and inconvenient to me. and too high. and so on.

mircea_popescu: (the first time around, decade or so prior, turkey ss guy intercepted me. like on the street. asked if i'm from the us, i said romania, he said no fucking way, what are you selling me here. was pretty lulzy.)

mircea_popescu: anyway, it's testament to my famous capacity of fitting in -- comes from the fact i use as main profile pic a shot hanbot took in turkey, where i was being INCREDIBLY fucking fit-in.

mircea_popescu: lol nope. i said goats are cute but not to the point of fucking one.

mircea_popescu: or, to quote from fetgirl, "mistey25 19F Switch Also an intelegence test? What makes you think you have what it takes to judge if someone is smart or not. There’s a quote from Albert Einstein “if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree it will live its whole life believing it’s an idiot”. And you’re judging me based off of things you’re pulling out of your ass. Why don’t I give you a bit of judgement. Yo

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is an eastern power, what can i tell you.

mircea_popescu: not so keen* i meep

mircea_popescu: i mean, if it ~speaks~ it, it could be cooler in the intended market ; but honestly speaking is inferior tech to reading.

mircea_popescu: i dun see it.

mircea_popescu: pretty cool item, if i do say so myself. the face of all the people who've since got one... worth erry penny.

mircea_popescu: if i had to take a blind wager, it'd be ye olde "information differential" -- jp knew and usg didn't.

mircea_popescu: can't say i've been following.

mircea_popescu: "but mp, you own this-and-so company that got specific safe harbour /legal extemption/ whatever precisely fitting "berth" definition item from x/y/z posturer to authority". "yes, i did ; and i can, too. but it is a) not ever obtained through the avenue here contemplated and, importantly, MUCH more importantly, b) a dodge. it is strictly there to mask from the dangerous the fundamental state of affairs."

mircea_popescu: now then : all these fantasies, "i'll worship so purely i'll never die", "i'll get a paycheck so huge i won't have to go on dates anymore", "i'll be that kurchatov" rely on something specific : there's gotta be a stalin. there's no stalin of long living, nor is there a stalin of rooseveltian socialism -- the thing's built ~specifically~ (and ~purposefully~, deliberately) as a "stalinism without any stalin".

mircea_popescu: hence an unbroken chain, from http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-10#1735907 to http://trilema.com/2018/yes-bitch-i-would-bring-it/ ☝︎

mircea_popescu: in any case, it's the (heavily promoted, of course) fantasy of the "geek" in mainstream ustard culture, "oh, i'll be SO GOOD IN CLASS little slut rosa's defo gonna get wet for me". as cameron diaz well points out : never gonna fucking happen.

mircea_popescu: i doubt it was anywhere near any biz, seeing how the warthog withdrawal happened prior.

mircea_popescu: they leave behind a coupla degenerate morons, http://trilema.com/2016/the-savages/ style . or i guess http://trilema.com/2013/magnolia/ ;l same thing really.

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-07#1885620 << i'm satisfied with my stance that "this is all fantasy", if nothing else then because even the clouds make "patterns worth watching" now and again, especially as a function of mood ; and time's certainly going the way of my stance being correct, rather than the opposite. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i recall recent example i put in, except for the specifics. obama era meanwhile defunded pile of spurious posturing.

mircea_popescu: maybe i'm naive, but i'm satisfied with the extant methods as they stand. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: i believe.

mircea_popescu: in the end this discussion turned out most productive. it makes obivous the distinction between the latins (very much alive) and the christians (deader than disco) : i very much expect a phrase lifted from petronius to ~work for me today~ ; i entirely expect any clipping of the "church fathers" to drip more poison than can be ever documented, and in no case be usable for anything.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform even as late as 2005, in the subjective sense that i ~trusted~ them to.

mircea_popescu: until and unless human culture recoallesces into a form where i can trust their products, it will be the case we have an orc culture, where everything's suspect of poisoning.

mircea_popescu: and then the conversation flows by itself, "suppose i test one of them artefacts and it matches turbine ?" "then you have ~made~ a turbine ~out of a~ religious artefact"

mircea_popescu: so basically, that's the dispute. you believe turbine part is turbine part qua se, and i'm gonna say, "but alf... these aren't turbine parts, they're ~religious artefacts~. similarity to actual turbine parts ~coincidental~."

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you were saying something like "lice are better than fleas, because i personally have a serious problem with jumping" it'd even be one thing, idiosyncratic but specific. what seems to me you're saying though, is "the flying mosquitoes are worse than the ones settled, because i hate flying", and then beiung surprised by the necessary and equally obvious "but alf -- trhe same ones fly and settle in turns!"

mircea_popescu: i honestly could as well see it, for the same money i don't see it. not like it costs me.

mircea_popescu: i dunno, maybe you're right, and the problem is i've predetermined not to see it. but then again this is a terrifyingly weak argument, because of its association with a dutch moron called søren, whose bright idea it was to propose that the reason you don't see what distinguishes his fsm from all the others is that you don't want to!!!

mircea_popescu: ie, not merely "just says wasp". i am actually saying there is no way to distinguish between the two.

mircea_popescu: the "d00d designing turbine parts in broom-closet-sized office" and " i'm not even convinced there's any meat involved" are physically and entirely the same exact thing.

mircea_popescu: i suppose in this the model breaks down, with the advent of pseudo"technology", the shy withdrawing type can "HackerCombat LLC is a news site, which acts as a source of information for IT security professionals across the world. We have lived it for more than 1 year since 2017, sharing IT expert guidance and insight, [...] " bla bla bla all day long. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i got a secret for you : the shy withdrawing kind almost never get the hole.

mircea_popescu: point being -- the boyish fantasy of "i'll get SO SMART they'll have to let me be" does not in practice work.

mircea_popescu: if i had just said "they'll fire themselves" it'd have seemed like rhetoric.