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assbot: Signing a shoe is the same as signing the papers. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bg9mKe )

pete_dushenski: purim scoop: http://www.contravex.com/2015/03/06/signing-a-shoe-is-the-same-as-signing-the-papers/

danielpbarron: still a work in progress, see also the root directory of that file

mircea_popescu: the pi is currently being worked on as a first example of a fully fits in head machine.

mircea_popescu: danielpbarron more a case of "there's all these people who got pis because excitement, now have nothing to use them for", i thought,

sjsqd: I've just had quite a few things on at the moment, otherwise I would be a bit more active

mircea_popescu: ahahaha you found a bug

sjsqd: I tried a few different options on my computer but got the same result

sjsqd: was trying to sign up for your site but it forwards to a blank page

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform kinda how sane people use this : wallet on a system behind a node system in a nat.

asciilifeform: (in that it can swallow a tx if fed)

asciilifeform: every node is already a 'wallet client'

mircea_popescu: ideally you want exactly what ben_vulpes was proposing : a node server with a wallet client

assbot: A sjsqd walks into a pub... pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bg2Fbg )

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2015/a-sjsqd-walks-into-a-pub/#comment-112528

asciilifeform: trinque: i'll be the last to disagree that it's still possible, today, to squeeze out a 'living' doing something in usa. question is how long it will remain true, for one's particular profession, for particular locale (do you like drilling for oil?), etc

trinque: and/or to lower yourself a bit

asciilifeform: if you're a u.s. blue-blood

trinque: asciilifeform: sure; yet I think people forget millions can be made owning a chain of car washes

asciilifeform: i might exaggerate slightly, but at any rate it won't be accomplished by a fella with a day job. ☟︎

asciilifeform: trinque: if you don't understand that this costs ~$trillion and requires a sovereign country in your pocket, you have not thought the matter through.

trinque: asciilifeform: sure but that's hyperbolic compared to "I can attach this to a printer, card scanner, whatever, and it does what it is told"

asciilifeform: trinque: a pocket-sized fission power plant would also be 'sellable'

trinque: for example if there was a tiny rasp-pi sized lisp machine, I think that'd be sellable

asciilifeform: anyone who offers to 'help you get rich' in specifically these terms is either a imbecile or sc4mz0r

asciilifeform: trinque: the hypothetical 'mutual assistance' org you suggest would roughly resolve to a 'society for let's we all get filthy rich, and not warren-buffet-usg-rich either, but mircea_popescu-rich' ☟︎

asciilifeform: other lifeforms that don't have a zoo ready to house them gratis

asciilifeform: trinque: there's a reason i used rocketry as the analogy

trinque: a big, profitable company would hurt how?

trinque: asciilifeform: I'd think there's enough talent right here to escape a gravity well

trinque: I'm as good as dead no matter what I'm doing, given a long enough timeline

trinque: this is more a question of what to do until then

trinque: I mean the cities wont be a risk to the rural areas after some period of starvation

asciilifeform: even in a very optimistic scenario like ussr, the disappearance of 'business as usual' could last for decades.

trinque: pick a spot far enough that no one hungry is going to wander there on foot

trinque: asciilifeform: I would want to know whether that was mostly a reaction after collapse, or something which people had in advance

assbot: Logged on 26-11-2013 17:41:46; asciilifeform: "There's a shift in people's thinking as essential items become scarce. They believe that... hoarders created the shortage... if someone can establish such a link between the crisis and you, you have a problem.'

trinque: I mean if we're headed back to the stone age, might as well eat a bullet in that situation

danielpbarron: and come to think of it, a lot of their industry was exporting to outsiders. things like "hand made whatever"

danielpbarron: a lot of them had iPhones

trinque: the problem being the neighbors of course, in such a situation

trinque: danielpbarron: my parents have a farm that produces far in surplus of what they need

danielpbarron: I once visited a false church community in waco, tx (no relation to that other thing) and they seemed capable of sustaining themselves independent of any supply lines. But maybe all the ground tilling was just for show -- I didn't stay there year-round; just for a week for their "harvest festival"

asciilifeform: trinque: usa is what anthropologists call a 'palace economy'

asciilifeform: when they go to the forest and blast away at bull's eyes, it's really a psychological release

trinque: I could see someone clever turning them into a far-right movement of some kind

danielpbarron: perhaps it'll be like with legal weed -- permitted to do bitcoin, or permitted to own a gun. choose one.

asciilifeform: if there were a 'rural militia' with above room-temperature iq, usa would already look like iraq ☟︎

chetty: walk softly and carry a big stick won't ever change, at least not the big stick part :)

asciilifeform: PeterL: small nuance here, also. the 'jungle shells' don't have to actually be made to work, in a sense. think about how the 'gavin fork' thing, which died - or at least went into hibernation - merely from knowing that response is ready

assbot: Logged on 26-02-2015 17:54:22; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: it was clear to anyone who gives a fuck that usg would target ammunition, rather than small arms per se, when it 'gets serious'

PeterL: Trying to find a good link for this, http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2015/02/16/atf-trying-to-ban-ar15-ammo-under-guise-of-law-enforcement-safety-n1957622 ☟︎

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this type of chumpatron has a name, though i'm blanking on what it was

BingoBoingo: The proposed a guarenteed payment pool for GPU miners where once ASICs arrived the GPUs would be aimed at other computing tasks

BingoBoingo: There's been a number of these things. This was actually one of the business's "CoinLab" explored

asciilifeform: but the sheer lameness, worth a discussion

asciilifeform: this one has a 'charity' flavour

asciilifeform: worth a mention somewhere?

trinque: I have a family member that's tagged for harassment at the border for political involvement in the 70s

PeterL: just needs a >S.MG</a> in there

PeterL: deader, unless you are a necrophile

chetty: although I have crossed boarders in last year a few times with no problems, I am always ready

mod6: ok, im off for a bit. night #b-a!

BingoBoingo: Granted it normally takes the better part of a salad to make the cage traps enticing to groundhogs

BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> it bloodied its nose against the cage for 20 min. or so, then gave up << They tend to do that. Catch a good number with bad intentions towards the garden that way.

decimation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE1alBZ-qXI < there's a whole youtube genre of X vs. Y animal

asciilifeform: i once caught a groundhog (marmota monax) in a zoological (cage) trap

asciilifeform: fight the glass to the death - or 'submit' to it as to a 'commanding officer'

mircea_popescu: i once found a fox leg in a bear trap.

asciilifeform: incidentally, i'm rather curious re: how a social animal (rat, wolf) would do in the bottle

mircea_popescu: it's basically a sort of windows nt, to replace windows 3.1. look, flashier plumage and mating dances!

mircea_popescu: from a software perspective.

asciilifeform: (he was trying to get -in-, for no apparent reason, rather than escape a jar)

mircea_popescu: the mouse in the bottle is a superlative of sense.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, us had a much better view of the soviets than the soviets, and vice-versa.

mircea_popescu: the hoodlums trying to be drug lords in detroit have a lot more sense in this matter than the "business majors" coming out of harvard.

mircea_popescu: making money is a purely ~political~ function. if you are among the favoured elite of the respublica veneta, you then may invest in the ships, and make a profit. if not, not. ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: what - in the actual world people inhabit - *is* a function of it?

mircea_popescu: making money is not a function of one's hard work and dilligence in the schoolhouse sense.

assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 22:15:19; asciilifeform: understand, interested here in 'theoretical best' of what a smart person with almost no funding could achieve

mircea_popescu: at its core, the "optimal retrospective investment" problem is a nude and rude proposition to replace the action imperative ("mouse must escape or die in the act of trying") with an imaginary junk. ("it could have been"). this is not substantially different from what the usg does when it invents a new name for the homeless and pretends to have "resolved the problem".

asciilifeform: the 'purpose' thing is just a demented lens for viewing anything

mircea_popescu: take this with a grain of salt, but here it is :

asciilifeform: does steam 'mean to' burst a boiler with plugged valve ?

mircea_popescu: there are a number of hard rules of the world we inhabit, that children take some time to internalize. one is, of course, "move backwards through time" thing. what adolescent did not ponder this, wish it, etc.

asciilifeform read time machine stories as a kid just like everybody else

asciilifeform can see where mircea_popescu is going - 'no clockwork universe' - but a trading engine in sufficiently small time span does behave rather like a clockwork universe

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this isn't a definition tho.

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adlai: b-a.com doesn't log?

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for all the major differences between them and us, it occurs to me there's a very painfully obvious stylistical point : b-a.com doesn't have traffic tracking, github.com doesn't let you search.

assbot: Logged on 05-03-2015 22:12:30; asciilifeform: folks with a clue - comment, would the result have any useful connection with reality ?

mircea_popescu: thestringpuller> and enron ruined pensions for everyone << if only. "My neighbor was an elderly retired woman (80+ seemed ancient to me at that age) who was the widowed wife of a retired steel worker. Her husband had worked all his life in the steel mills of central Pennsylvania with promises from big business and the union that, for his 30 years of service, he would have a pension and medical care to look forward to i

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform 40% or 90% is purely a wordchoice matter, much like the zhim thing. 5%ish is where it matters.

asciilifeform: https://github.com/search?q=gnatelim&type=Code << who can find anything there which isn't a) word salad or b) part of gcc ?

asciilifeform: as always happens in a collapsing police state

trinque: yeah, I'm referring to a former friend of mine