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trinque: meanwhile what Lord is going to fear that a student's folly will affect anything but himself
trinque: said himself he's doing it to learn and so on
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and so the quality and composition of glue therefore can never be ascertained ?
trinque: meaning no disrespect to sina (and I figure he knows this from output) his pronouncements are not going to have the same effect on tmsr as a Lord's will
asciilifeform: and the thing about glue traps, is that 'entry is a buck, exit -- two'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where i ( and , as in linked threads, in the past, mircea_popescu also ) observe that golang is not 'simply another prog lang' but a carefully built intellectual gluetrap for the naive and energetic
mircea_popescu: but where did this occur ?
asciilifeform: which is why observation is not about the drinkers of shit, but re clean-shaved western idiots who point and call 'alternate hygiene, just as good if not better than ours'
mircea_popescu: sooo then... you DO see why they would ?
mircea_popescu: so they are devoid of agency ?
asciilifeform: orthogonal to the fact of them drinking it
mircea_popescu: do you understand why ahm im sorry. do you have a working theory as to why the bangladeshis are drinking river of shit ?
mircea_popescu: so they are ~the same thing ?
asciilifeform: i dun see the disconnect.
mircea_popescu: what's the alfhf that goes from S = "phf: why would you even." to H = "just as honest surgeon will not point to bangladeshis drinking from rivers of shit and call it 'alternate hygiene, just as good' -- i also will not" ?
mircea_popescu: this is at a considerable distance from what you actually said though.
asciilifeform: but just as honest surgeon will not point to bangladeshis drinking from rivers of shit and call it 'alternate hygiene, just as good' -- i also will not.
a111: Logged on 2017-07-05 16:26 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here';s the thing : i didn't get that impression from what you were saying. and the substance of a scam is when the reader doesn't get that impression from the copy.
asciilifeform: dunno how we ended up discussion 'prohibitions' -- asciilifeform hasn't the power or desire to confiscate d00d's keyboard for churning out whatever liquishit.
trinque: not saying we want to take up turd-munching, but that "no system of global prohibition" can handle even it, easily
mircea_popescu: as one'd have to (children also have it, for the same reason.)
mircea_popescu: also developed a taste for own shit in the process.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-11 00:19 mircea_popescu: lobbes see, because they made the mistake of banning things instead of simply banning stupid.
trinque: in order to have the human machine operate in self-sorting mode, can't have blanket prohibitions, or as mp said http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-11#1641810 ☝︎
asciilifeform: i regard my duty of 'showing' to be fulfilled, when i state, without any strong emotion, that i will not run golang, nor encourage others to do so.
asciilifeform: now this is so.
mircea_popescu: win-win as they say.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, there's really no way to run for oneself. take jurov for instance : years later he's still struggling to come to terms with the specific portions of socialism he can't let go of. if people end up taking teh bait and going to bury themselv es ion google for the rest of their life, what exactly was lost ?
mircea_popescu: so what you're saying is that if you were a canon of the town church, you WOULD picket them ?
asciilifeform: no moar so than bakeries, or cement factories.
asciilifeform: brothels ain't an organized effort to take a massive shit in my fits-in-headization of the comp.
mircea_popescu: sooo then, you understand golang also.
mircea_popescu: like, for instance, talking that walk in the first place.
mircea_popescu does stupid shit all the time.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-27 03:04 mircea_popescu: tis true. bigots = fixated people with beards you couldn't convince of your reasonable position, such as "the rabid dog doesn't bite" on the grounds of it not having bit yet, or "marrying your first cousin is fine" on the basis of hey, cunt that doesn't scare me!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, trinque: problem , imho, falls into the http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-27#1674857 class. ☝︎
trinque: I think that's the distinction between youth and wisdom, and youth is *meant* to go try to die, and see if it doesn't.
mircea_popescu: no such thing was notioned other than in asciilifeform 's own head. it's not present in conversation, not even for the trivial "alf put it there to have a rant basis"
asciilifeform: trinque: understand, asciilifeform's barf is not in response to 'd00d wrote a proggy in piglang' but to the notion that it is perhaps a thing to be considered for serious deployment, and an experiment that ought to be replicated by other folx who do not normally keep piglang on their iron
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so you could never everr, no matter what, go into their harappan little huts and lift the beaded clothes to find harappan cunt, and then explain to your host, "well, it's ok for a coupla hours i guess, but i wouldn't live here. BECAUSE..."
trinque: learned, wrote next thing in lisp
asciilifeform: either kill the funny looking white invader -- or learn his tongue, yes
mircea_popescu: and what is harappan warrior to do, die ?
asciilifeform: the way i see it, it is the duty of a serious n00b , who wants to become an adult practitioner of whatever black art , to learn a human lang like french, english, german, etc , rather than to expect the learned folx to learn his piglang, quechua, whichever...
mircea_popescu: i can sort-of decrypt the deadpan rhetorical overstatement to the point of absurdity device you practice about 2/3 of the time or so. but i'm a fucking trained decoder and honestly i dunno if there's another alive.
mircea_popescu: it's a dangerous way to work.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform here';s the thing : i didn't get that impression from what you were saying. and the substance of a scam is when the reader doesn't get that impression from the copy. ☟︎
trinque: can then point / laugh / educate and everyone's the better for it.
asciilifeform: in cobol, even, if they feel like.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-19 15:22 asciilifeform: golang --> straight to furnace.
a111: Logged on 2016-05-19 15:31 mircea_popescu: anyway, Framedragger golang is not liked here because we don't own it, and we don't like usg.google more than we like usg.anything, and because it seems quite well engineered to work as a baited hook for the usg chump works.
asciilifeform: ( found, so far, only the 'baited hook', http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-19#1468576 ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: i keep having the thought that we had this thread already, in the past..
asciilifeform: it wants whole planet of liquishit, that apparently one is expected to simply get in binary (?) and swallow whole
asciilifeform: but to date i have not even succeeded in building clang ! despite trying a number of times, because the lattice fpga thing needs it
mircea_popescu: so then what are you talking about ?
asciilifeform: lulzily, i am not averse to experimenting with heathen whatevers, i even have an isolated leprosorium for infected winblowz.
mircea_popescu: let's get back to shoot her and let her to bleed out in a parking lot.
mircea_popescu: i had no idea anyone was even contemplationg that.
asciilifeform: and the gain -- quite illusory.
asciilifeform: because it is a ludicrous proposition -- massive ball of shit, that makes gcc look compact and fits-in-head.
asciilifeform: i will not be 'adopting' and maintaining it and its deps, and so far no one has stepped up to the job
mircea_popescu: one needn't fear the smell of cunt in his room.
asciilifeform: what we have in the golang thing, is a loaded camel for carrying multi-GB of heathen liquishit into tmsr intellectual infrastructure .
mircea_popescu: speed was the point in discussion, not all i want.
mircea_popescu: try the D and see it take twice as loing ?
asciilifeform: and in fact doesn't need 'thousand man years to fix the mismatches' because it HAS no mismatches with the iron.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform from experience men don't care about debilitating disease, just dun like the whinery.
mircea_popescu: so no, they could have picked forth and it'd have been trhe same thing.
mircea_popescu: the reason it's in discusison today is the manyear in engineering hours they put in to fix the hardware impedance
asciilifeform: you get to live with it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the problem is that shooting the jane fonda doesn't cure the syphilis and hiv.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's the problem with the traditional "use it while it works and then shoot her in a parking lot and leave her there to bleed a la jane fonda" ?
mircea_popescu: camel toe.
asciilifeform: again , it ain't about crud languages. it is about systems, and people. if, e.g., sina, wants to ADOPT golang, and maintain it, such that nothing that happens in tmsr is EVER subject to the whims of genderfuckers at google hq -- no python3isms, no 'language is evolving', no 'you need gcc7 to build this', no 'we no longer support ppc and 386, fuckyou' -- then it can be considered
mircea_popescu: it's not a tenable position. even if laughter was not in aristotle. because, again, and i mean this most literally, the smell of sv is the smell of cunt.
mircea_popescu: hm, let's redo that for spealing.
mircea_popescu: it's not a tenable position. even if laughter was in aristotle. because, again, and i mean this most literally, the smell of cv is the smell of cunt.
mircea_popescu: with teh credible character who hated laughter ?
mircea_popescu: you saw that movie, incidentally ? the bad redo of le nom de la rose ?
asciilifeform: if it stinks of sv -- to the furnace with it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in practice nobody needs to keep exhaustive list, the nose suffices
mircea_popescu: a too late soz
mircea_popescu: lol i was thinking, "original author hates lisp for some reason" but then i passed for it being too cruel
asciilifeform: it is the most laboriously dysfunctional proggy i had ever written, it is my albatross
phf: phuctor still in python i take it?
phf: well, i agree that particular choice signifies
asciilifeform: i.e. introduction of genderfuckery crapolade into tmsr infrastructure
phf: not for the offense of using a heretic language
phf: asciilifeform: maybe if someone inwot were to build one, i'd consider it, at least
phf: oh flag, lets you pass this stuff as a command line argument.. i guess this approach works too. i'm not sure why i can't just do message = string(dat) but i'm too lazy to figure it out ☟︎
phf: but i'm trying to reproduce "single threaded mpfhf-golang can provide a 32-bit mpfhf hash of GPLv2 in ~7m" on my machine
asciilifeform: phf: why would you even. what's next, building the microshit F# one ?
shinohai: phf there was a space before your !~
phf: asciilifeform: i don't know how to go
phf: is something supposed to happen when i later tell?
a111: Logged on 2017-07-05 15:39 phf: sina: is that ^ a correct method?
phf: !~later tell sina http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-05#1679215 ☝︎
phf: sina: is that ^ a correct method? ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: for typemaps and whatnot