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mircea_popescu: if one's stuck pretending something stupid, better off make it include being stupid rather than pretend it's possible to include some kind of being smart that doesn't readily reduce to being smrt.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-26 01:06 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-25#1758589 << i don't get what the problem is. write a patch that modifies the filebase into the shape you want it to be. what's the problem ?
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-26#1758614 << consider a genesis, a and b patchset where a and b don't touch the same files. if i press to b, write a c that descends from b, it will not have a as an antecedent. when you say "modify the filebase into the shape that you want it to be", do you mean include the changes of a in the c patch? ☝︎☟︎☟︎
shinohai: I don't think cold storage means what you think it means.
BingoBoingo: I haven't actively watched tv since Houston
shinohai: Turns out that my supposition wasn't too far off, average Peruvian being about as intelligent as a cuy,
phf: one disadvantage of irc is that once you start on a thought, you can't really revise. i didn't really have a good punch line, so i left it at that, a dud, rather than fizzle with a weak punchline.
trinque: MTW: ah, I see it. there's a printout I apparently didn't get. give me a few and I'll dispatch.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-25 22:55 ben_vulpes: that don't touch the same file
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-25#1758589 << i don't get what the problem is. write a patch that modifies the filebase into the shape you want it to be. what's the problem ? ☝︎☟︎
ben_vulpes: that don't touch the same file ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i baked the vpatch i'm working on by pressing to excise_hash_truncation which only works accidentally, as v.pl presses both leaves at that level (first increase_aggression_levels and then excise_hash_truncation); but i don't see a route to producing a vpatch stitching together excise_hash_truncation and increase_aggression_levels without doing something that v doesn't support like pressing multiple heads
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform, mod6, mircea_popescu: because an ideal v wouldn't apply both increase_aggression_levels and excise_hash_truncation when pressing excise_hash_truncation, how do i make another vpatch depend on both of those without needlessly touching a file changed in excise_hash_truncations to make increase_aggression_levels depend on it or vice versa?
mircea_popescu: anyway, for the record and in case it isn't entirely self-evident on the basis of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-25#1758486 : whenever some self-proclaimed "sovereign" of the fiat sort tries to say "hey, we have a law", the correct response is to a) point out to that self-proclaimed faux sovereign that there exist other just as valid because just as self-proclaimed faux sovereigns (the eu, russia, china, whatever, bucnha them ☝︎☟︎☟︎
l0de: because we don't currently have a platform that can deal with them in a meaningful way
mircea_popescu: they have less of an ability to impede sw comms than the soviets had in 1977 ; and it didn't work for the soviets in 1977.
mircea_popescu: the point doesn't JUST go re nukes per se ; this whole "usg could do THE BIG THING" is entirely pantsuit wank.,
mircea_popescu: it did not work for the soviets ; and it won't work for these soviets v2.0 eithert.
mircea_popescu: the idea isn't at any point to somehow "appear small and escape detection".
l0de: and was somewhat put off to find he didn't have any actionable plans other than BTC inevitably collapsing the government
l0de: I generally don't handle the technical elements of it
mircea_popescu: you KNOW they'll have heartbleed and orc glyphs and so on and so forth, even as the "security tokens" never expire and the gameplay just isn't there.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i guess the buttcoiner pedo pantsuitism readily answers the economic question. dood trashed early bitcoin business BECAUSE that's why he had it in the first place. wasn't looking to do something useful, was looking to establish cred to try and fuck up the useful.
BigTexasBingo: Don't read to much into the words, follow the laughing and you're in.
danielpbarron: what's the difference? maybe they report the time they initially saw it but don't list till it's verified
danielpbarron: i know this was discussed already but i don't see how the sha in the url helps, or for that matter posting sums in chan. if the enemy is gonna swap out the file he can swap out the hash too right?
ben_vulpes: otherwise v.pl won't recognize it as a seal.
mircea_popescu: dude... this place isn't for this please note stuff.
mircea_popescu: idiot didn't even truncate to the same length.
mircea_popescu: i didn;t realise anyone kept that thing in.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-24#1758196 << but aren't their skills and oppinions important to you ?! ☝︎
ben_vulpes: i don't quite see the connection between NATed nodes and this max outbound connections constraint, could you elaborate?
mircea_popescu: 2020 "young writer for the ny times" ain't gonna be 1950s ginsburg, as it ain't gonna be 1970s mia farrow. it's gonna be fungusbrain bigmomma.
asciilifeform: the 3 or 4 people on the planet who can actually SELL 0days , knowing they'll be paid 1) know who they are 2) wouldn't even cough and spit for a mere 500 , esp if paid in taxolade 3) don't deal with 'uber' et al, or any 'responsible-disclosure'-pushing usg.tentacle , not for promises of three kingdoms and five princesses
asciilifeform: which presently leaves asciilifeform with no place to put the bot ( i won't keep it on zoolag, uncloaked irc-to-fleanode results in massive shitfloods routinely )
ben_vulpes: and no, opinions don't exist here if they don't come from *a person*, which is predicated on an identity.
ben_vulpes: Hssgh5337k: you could at least mention these skills; otherwise it reeks of "i'm a magical pony and YOU DON'T UNDERSTAAAAND"
asciilifeform: ( if i know of a nextblock, and i'm peering with mircea_popescu , and he doesn't, or vice-versa -- the boxes oughta share )
asciilifeform: yea i can't think of any reason whynot.
asciilifeform: i can't speak for others, but asciilifeform often ( almost always, in fact ) runs trb during tests, in pure userland, making use of 0 systemwide loggings )
trinque: I dunno a linux on earth that can't log the direct output of a service
asciilifeform: it isn't even impossible that there's only been 1 block in past 2hrs, say
mircea_popescu: much like "you can't repudiate signatures -- can't see whole space" discussion in that thread.
mircea_popescu: this is a sort of gossipd-meets-the original "can't have signature repudiation" problem you encountered in comments there, but REVERSED.
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu has thought of a meaning for it that doesn't 'a participating entity can recognize work done by itself as opposed to work done by others' -- i'm all ears
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mining doesn't have to mean that.
mircea_popescu: allocate it all now ; if you can't afford to make smaller coinbase.
mircea_popescu: and you don't want to end up with a split code branch
asciilifeform: it ain't a substitute for the cut-up, no.
a111: Logged on 2016-03-16 11:07 mircea_popescu: which, ungenerously enough, seems just a step away from the breakdown specific to shitholes like argentina, where people altogether don't even comprehend words are in any sense meaningful, above and beyond the chirping captive populations of chickens do to reassure each other.
mircea_popescu: i don't see any change in behaviour. the prb node will produce ~same % of blocks with or without.
asciilifeform: ( unrelatedly, but before i fughet, observation : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-21#1755826 i.e. bastardry handler, is unproductive because it asks 'fill in what we're missing', but 99 out of 100 shots, that's ~another~ bastard. really instead it ought to either 1) send a normal pushgetblocks() to the bastard-emitter , asking him for the ~one and only block we won't reject~, it being the immediately-next-one-after-our-topheight , or ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in the end it might turn out that vhs-america aborted itself because it listened to a bunch of mediocre women that just wanted an easy time teaching highschool ; but couldn't come out with it because puritan perversion.
mircea_popescu: yes, but this isn't it ; i'd have thought it'd have ecology in it because i recall the link being made, but also no dice.
mircea_popescu: apparently i can't find that discussion now.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, the fantasy-mind. "wouldn't chocolate be better ?"
mircea_popescu: smart man. do you see however how this is STRICTLY equivalent to slavegirl going "master, this spot, this spot doesn't hurt like the others, hit it harder."
mircea_popescu: which isn't nearly as fortunate a happy occurence as the fantasy-mind imagines from within ; but anyway
mircea_popescu: eh, scensters don't count.
asciilifeform: whip has curative power but apparently wasn't enuff for, e.g., microshit
asciilifeform: ( and can't simply use the html escape notation, because it gets literalized by the code-formatter )
asciilifeform: well how would it dwim. gotta offer an explicit escape. and the thing, apparently, doesn't.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this one isn't a wp problem per se, it's interaction b/w wp and the colorizer thing
phf: asciilifeform: i put your http://btcbase.org/patches/asciilifeform_aggressive_pushgetblocks into http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=experimental, it's a bit messy down there though (heyo), because of a bunch of broken polarbeard patches. i didn't move them to deprecated, because i assume we might still want to regrind them
shinohai: I just love these types "trying to find out exactly what is going on here cause i haven't got a god damn clue" but "Nope, can't read logs, boring."
asciilifeform: can't say that i am, shinohai
neur0: yeah that doesn't entertain me
neur0: oh i was just trying to find out exactly what is going on here cause i haven't got a god damn clue
mircea_popescu: as long as it ships with keccak i don't care what other nonsense i will never read is included by possibility.
mircea_popescu: they don't come back, their fucking problem.
asciilifeform: the constant and entirely unnecessary reset of history is imho urbit-like and a Bad Thing. e.g. polarbeard ain't coming back to regrind his patches, nor is punkman
asciilifeform: i didn't either, for 1st hr or so
mircea_popescu: pick a name someone doesn't already own.
mircea_popescu: what, i can't know what a clydesdale is on my own ?
BingoBoingo: And if anyone wants accomodations in Uruguay that aren't a hostel, la ciudad vieja is full of ancient $45 a night places with rather grand architecture.
mircea_popescu: no estan muy gordas - they aren't very fat. no estas muchas gordas = you dear reader aren't many fat women.
phf: no, yeah, that wasn't clear
asciilifeform: phunphakt: to this very day, crappleware won't -- as result of deliberate design -- emulate a disk
mircea_popescu: oh is that what it is ? usure you didn't overstake for the sake of imagined outcomes ?
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 16:12 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757338 << you know you're supposed to plan these for yourself so you yourself can then execute them! if you can't do it for yourself, what hope has any peon working under your management ? eh ?
mircea_popescu: singlets aren't a household in statistical parlance.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757425 << on meditation i will have to withdraw this objection. even if he didn't say what i wanted him to, solution is still correct (because there's no difference between "average stepped up 2x" and "difference" if you make sure the gears always run opposite) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes but they didn't know this then.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-23 15:56 mircea_popescu: (if memory serves the original split, design choice made late 1990s, was due to either suspicion or reality that either sign or decrypt possibly leaked bits ; the idea of separate keys is not even bad, necessarily, but this does NOT say anything positive about a clunky, ad hoc, untransparent and machine-automagical key hierarchy system. so basically, people probably will have at least two keys in tmsr-rsa, except they won't b
mircea_popescu: there may be several ways, but differential won't do it.
shinohai: Did anyone here ever read the Bitcoin wallet plugin for gribble? I don't think it was updated (or in actual use anywhere!) but I think I remember axing it from jhvh1 because you could query any users balance with it.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-23#1757338 << you know you're supposed to plan these for yourself so you yourself can then execute them! if you can't do it for yourself, what hope has any peon working under your management ? eh ? ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: "oh, my real identity hasn't even started yet!111"
shinohai: I suppose it wasn't discussed, but I did rather enjoy the learning part of it.
mircea_popescu: (if memory serves the original split, design choice made late 1990s, was due to either suspicion or reality that either sign or decrypt possibly leaked bits ; the idea of separate keys is not even bad, necessarily, but this does NOT say anything positive about a clunky, ad hoc, untransparent and machine-automagical key hierarchy system. so basically, people probably will have at least two keys in tmsr-rsa, except they won't b ☟︎
trinque: asciilifeform: you didn't do anything other than remove the gcc-5.x step in my recipe, and worked?
trinque: anyhow, there's no signing auth mechanism, and I don't want to feature creep the thing. I will however change a key for anybody that demonstrates control of both.
asciilifeform still can't think of anything like a hypothesis for this
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1757216 << it's the question though, i don't see any sort of self-delusion path that'd incentivize the behaviour. quo fucking prodest ? ☝︎
BingoBoingo: It could be your problem if the next one isn't found before they smell
asciilifeform: hey it ain't my problem...
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2012/and-another-one-bites-the-dust-bitmarketeu/#selection-99.0-99.63 sorta deal. it's very fundamental this, "they told us this is the premiere science and engineering place IN THE WORLD!!! how come we can't compete with an average teenager ?"
mircea_popescu: what is, very much deadbeat 30yo+ couldn't make tenure, by bulk. a case of "your friennd wioth blood sweart and tears" nonsense.
BingoBoingo: Eh, president doesn't have much power. More effective to be anti-president. It's a resistance of the medium sort of thing
mircea_popescu: (leaving aside how maryland.gov uses a cert that doesn't cover maryland.gov lol)