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mircea_popescu: diana_coman not as long as you think, i recall the same exact summer i went from fearing the forks in june to playing with them for sport in august.
asciilifeform: ah hm i may have overestimated the size
diana_coman: iirc I was a bit older actually; at 6-7 it was only Basic and casette loading stuff, I think I was more like 10-12 for supaplex
asciilifeform: i played good chunk of those back when was same size as him and at elder brother's mercy for cpu cycles, lol, also
asciilifeform: diana_coman: np. lemme know which flavours the kid ended up liking, i may have moar in the depths of the warez chests along those lines. ☟︎
diana_coman: thanks asciilifeform! I'm downloading it
a111: Logged on 2019-02-03 17:42 asciilifeform: diana_coman: it's on a mitsumi gold cd thing, i'ma excavate it tomorrow morning
trinque: now that we're at something of a cuntoo interude while folks are testing, I'll find some time to figure out what deedbot gags on time to time re: reconnecting
mircea_popescu: very much truth, btw, i don't know there exist three girls alive that've fucked more lesbians than you truly.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the everlulz, Cisza 21F sub 3h "Don't you know what lesbian means? fuck you" LordMPofTMSR "Lmao. I should know, I'm sure I fucked more than you." ☟︎
asciilifeform: in other cuntooisms : if anyone is short a x64 box to test-fire cuntoo with, asciilifeform has a surplus disposable box, 'lenovo s10-3' , with that same chipset as in x60 etc period ( https://archive.is/Dny84 ) , if anyone in l1 wants, it's yours for the cost of postage ( has a mechanical hdd in it, i fughet of what size ) ☟︎
trinque: BingoBoingo: sure, makes sense. is the reason I didn't bake such a thing clear?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I made a new boot drive, just finished baking.
BingoBoingo: We've got http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2295 but nothing similar for AMD64, after a day reading docs and working the brain I lack answers for "wat do" which appear palatable or right.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i have 2h slot now, let's fill that order
BingoBoingo: I've made a new stick off of what Gentoo.org advertises as a "2012" build, but Gentoo.org isn't in my WOT.
BingoBoingo: On the other hand my technical director is buried in work, Republican and Saecular. The boot drive we had been using to stand up boxes infrequently as we have... this box doesn't want to boot to. I would like to offer as pleasant an environment as possible for the customer's experiment, and for that... I suspect any old Debian will not do. The more time they have to do their experiment and the less they spend making the environment
BingoBoingo: In one hand I have a very enviable problem in a repeat customer wanting a box stood up. With that box the customer intends to have very capable hands under his control test the cuntoo build process. As a bonus they are offering to molest USB sticks into cuntoo propagators.
trinque: BingoBoingo: I've intentionally not produced any additional binaries which would bring into question whether future boojums came from me or gentoo upstream
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-06#1893257 << incidentally, must add that i do ~not~ recommend this box , unless yer experimenting with the linked display thing; it takes good chunk of hour to get disk in/out of it on acct of braindamaged mechanical design of chassis ☝︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I am going to head down to the basement to put two old RK drives in dulap for zeroing and to retrieve the USB to SATA cable for zeroing the rust
asciilifeform: i dun have a magical recipe for 'program to make sense'. approached problem by consciously avoiding all the various 'perlisms' knew of that typically prevent it; then wrote proggy with ~50% comment mass by weight ( but who can guarantee that they suffice ? ) , + the proofs/articles.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i cant speak for eucrypt, but ffa is at least as much experiment in 'can program be written to make sense?' as it is arithm lib
mircea_popescu: and i'm not even sure it's yet detailed enough (not to mention the part where -- "to make any sense of this you must headload log anyways")
mircea_popescu: maybe it was already ending by time of doom, but i guarantee you that if i had orig author of said 2mb of asm "source" of dos in the dungeon, i'd be stuck producing A LOT OF accompanying notation through interrogation.
mircea_popescu: people (the actual people, i mean) only started perceiving the need to ~even write down most of it~ sometime in the 90s.
mircea_popescu: kinda for this reason, back i nthe day "sources" meant a LOT of "brain content" so to speak.
asciilifeform: i have the sores, it's coupla mb of asm.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'm just going through a nostalgia moment here.
mircea_popescu: fucking novell netware. I STILL RECALL THAT CRAP, 47 disks or some shit.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: may recall, i stuffed a working linux (with 3.x kernel no less) into <5MB. gentooisms are bulky on acct of sores.
mircea_popescu: i recall the times a slim os was judged by "fits on one 7"."
asciilifeform: but for mircea_popescu's purpose i suspect will entirely suffice.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I am asking asciilifeform how we want to handle this
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo but i mean, i have to buy a ssd to test out cuntoo ?
mircea_popescu: or in general. i want 2gb films like i want the clap. if god didn't mean films to be 700mb he wouldn't have made cd's that big.
mircea_popescu: tbh, if it weren't for crypto, i still wouldn't.
mircea_popescu: well what can i tell ya.
mircea_popescu: well it's apparently all i've encountered.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there were at least 4 variants. i haven't encountered the 32b one tho.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-13 00:41 mircea_popescu: i think i have one right here. from ~period. it's a workhorse, sure, and it paid for itself many times over, but...
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-13#1824545 << i gotta figure this shit out, because i ~thought~ i had some x60s also. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i dun so much these days ( rarely leave house... lol )
mircea_popescu: i suspect i use laptops a lot less than you do.
asciilifeform: i also ( largely retired'em tho )
mircea_popescu: right. i gotta buncha t's
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> vaguely relatedly, is there such a thing as a 64 bit laptop that's acceptable as far as anyone knows ? << I don't hate the thinkpad x120e, AMD E350 Bobcat chip
mircea_popescu: i never bought one yet, principally because i don't know of such a thing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sorta the point of nailing down cuntoo etc. to avoid the quite unpleasant 'hrm i need a box, lemme visit junkyard and see if they have pieces of old lada'
mircea_popescu: if for no other reason then because i'd really like to slim it out in the coming years.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox to also unhook kvm from uy1 ( which is running without issue continuously since i started watching )
mircea_popescu: one day there's gonna be an accounting of all these dead days, "well, master ordered me to so and so, so i went through the piles, picked laptop, then discovered needs gentoo but not clear which gentoo, links dead, so ima pick one, then next day discovered it dun work on machine i selected before knowing the relevant criteria and turns out i dun have one that meets and holy shit".
mircea_popescu: convenient, seeing how it then also cuts some intermediate steps, i guess ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what do you have, 1tb or something ? i can't imagine it wouldn't suffice.
asciilifeform: i dun recall trinque giving estimate of min disk req'd
mircea_popescu: i have nfi, whatever's needed to encuntoo-ate it. was this ever discussed ?
mircea_popescu: the race being on, i'm curious if "check trinque 's sig" can be done in 1 mo or not.
mircea_popescu: i hafta look this up ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i don't suppose you folks have a 64 bit machine i could get for hanbot to continue her cuntooing ?
a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 03:08 lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892264 << looks like spyked is going to take care of it (though, I dun mind rsyncing it as well) >> http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/082-tmsr-schedule-i.html#selection-201.0-213.84
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-05#1892703 <-- I'ma give it a try and report. if it's more complicated than a rsync, I'll come up with a method to (at the very least) make the archive accessible to L1 after I grab it ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-04 21:49 mircea_popescu: spyked http://trilema.com/2015/how-to-fix-your-local-trackbacks/ << turns out i already had.
mircea_popescu: i don\t think i own any x64 lappies.
trinque: I don't plan on porting the bootstrapper to other architectures; it'll be better once the bridge has been crossed to crosscompile for various other archs (arm, i686, toaster)
hanbot: gentooers: looking @ thebitcoin.foundation/gentoo-stage3-amd64-nomultilib-guide.txt, i direct myself to the distfiles @ gentoo.ussg.indiana.edu and find noffin' for i686; do we not have a gentoo frozen for it?
a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 23:05 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform weirdly that doesn't yield either. i coudl've sworn we had a logthread on african "career women" and euro powdered milk.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform weirdly that doesn't yield either. i coudl've sworn we had a logthread on african "career women" and euro powdered milk. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: far as i'm concerned, walking bodies who can't languages into a higher maffs classroom is == lunacy to walking in ones who never learned arithmetic
diana_coman: I've found it online but not for download, and in piecemeal fashion rather than full thing
asciilifeform: i'ma look in the warez chest an' see if got any there also.
diana_coman: ahhh, if at it, asciilifeform one thing I really try to get hold of and couldn't, perhaps you have it: some offline audiobooks read by this Samoilov Vladimir?
diana_coman: asciilifeform, no; now I must find it, lol
diana_coman: so no, I'm not barfing at communist kid bookz but at propaganda fed while one's too young to even *notice* it
diana_coman: asciilifeform, you know, I do NOT barf at all at Neznaika and at Nosov in general and yes, I read them as a child an in Romanian and loved them; and I re-read them at 12 and at 19 and at 25 and STILL loved them
diana_coman: it's even precisely the cover I remember, lol
diana_coman: hmmmm, a tiny Diana loved those well-written children stories; and then she re-read them at age 12 or so and was so shocked to see how much propaganda they were....; my point being: I doubt there is any place which is not "subtly poison" of one sort or another
asciilifeform: except that i dun think anywhere in civilized world keeps the insane in anyffin resembling the conditions.
asciilifeform: i'm guessing diana_coman never spent much time in anglotardistan
asciilifeform: funnily enuff, to close the circle, yrs later i actually ran into kurosh ed. in 100% king's english
asciilifeform: i get away with it here, mostly, but usg.prof prolly not .
a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 21:18 asciilifeform: e.g. brin elder would've luvved to assign e.g. kurosh as the textbook, i suspect, but could not , it dun exist afaik in eng
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-05#1893092 -> honestly, I don't see it: if he luvved to then WHY not recommend it? in martian if that's what it is in, wtf ☝︎
asciilifeform: by the time i got to'em already mostly eaten by termites inside.
asciilifeform: i found some prior to them expiring, didnt make much diff
asciilifeform: i went in with duffelbags and pocketed it all.
asciilifeform: i actually picked up a ru transl, which i had nfi existed until found in a skip (!) at same uni
diana_coman: it's actually even translated to Ro, I still have the volumes on my shelf though I go and read...the English version :D
asciilifeform: i went to what at the time was supposed to be a 'decent' public uni in usa, and do you think anyone assigned knuth ?
diana_coman: well yes, the noob part being that a. I had not realised that a good book was actually something rare - I had just put it all on the teachers' incompetence/lack of interest in recommending something useful b. it took me that long to realise fully the difference between the bullshit stuff that was abundantly provided and something useful
asciilifeform: e.g. brin elder would've luvved to assign e.g. kurosh as the textbook, i suspect, but could not , it dun exist afaik in eng ☟︎
asciilifeform: i can't speak for europistans, but in 'new world' this is a dire problem, there largely ~aint~ any good book.
asciilifeform: lol i had this ~erry time i walked into a course
diana_coman: since you were asking re "noob diana_coman": while at Uni, 2nd year or so, I had this outburst at some point: wtf IF only you'd recommend a GOOD book ffs instead of all the bullshit
asciilifeform: i ate http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-05#1893054 cover to cover, but read maybe 4 ch of barnes. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i'd even say that 80+% of the thing consists of rakes, by mass
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it's a pretty dubious b00k. problem is, i dun have anyffin to recommend to engl. readers other than it
diana_coman: speaking of Barnes' Ada book: it IS very useful and I certainly do go back to it quite often still for all sorts but it still has at times such ideas that I can't stand; e.g. "The reader will probably feel that the activation mechanism is somewhat elaborate. However, in practice, the details will rarely need to be considered. They are mentioned in order to show that the mechanism is well defined rather than because of their everyday import ☟︎
asciilifeform: pretty sure i didn't dream it tho.
diana_coman: I don't recall
a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 19:10 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform actually, i can show you : http://trilema.com/2009/castiga-1000-ron-de-craciun/#comment-11652