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fromloper: Mallery didn't do much for Symbolics before he bought it, outside of supplying it with CL-HTTP
asciilifeform: some people spent $10k's on their collections of bolixiana. and imagine that these will become worthless if an accurate fpgalogical emulator appears. and for all i know , this is true. i simply don't care.
fromloper: well, he doesn't for some reason
asciilifeform: and i haven't seen him anywhere since, either
asciilifeform: somebody , maybe same old man, has a bookcase full of typewritten design apocrypha, memoes, etc. from ivory group. he ain't sharing either.
asciilifeform: he ain't sharing.
apeloyee: a hash of the entire tree doesn't take much
asciilifeform: ( and yes mircea_popescu's answer was 'shuddup and suck it' . which is very easily said when you ain't the one sucking it )
apeloyee: "may be a 50kg sword" << doesn't seem to be. can be retrofitted into an existing design. as i said above "there needs to be a tree hash in the _leaf_ patch. and it MUST match the resulting tree"
asciilifeform: i don't have a good counter-argument to this.
trinque: and in the case of signed antecedent state, don't have to press first to know if you could
a111: Logged on 2018-01-17 19:31 apeloyee: a vpatch's purpose is twofold. 1) to provide a way to construct some files based on some antedecent files, whose hashes are given. 2) to take some responsibility about the entire tree. but the signature on a vpatch doesn't fix the state of the tree; it is defined implicitly by antedecent patches, which are liable to change at any time ("regrinding") and thereby change some files not...
asciilifeform: apeloyee: trinque and mircea_popescu would like to put more of it on the machine. i haven't with what to dissuade them, it is a philosophical q, not even technical.
apeloyee: files are NOT INDEPENDENT. despite CVS and v pretending they are. this is a problem. you could have required some form of cryptographic commitment to either the tree state or even the antedecent patches themselves, but didn't ☟︎
apeloyee: a vpatch's purpose is twofold. 1) to provide a way to construct some files based on some antedecent files, whose hashes are given. 2) to take some responsibility about the entire tree. but the signature on a vpatch doesn't fix the state of the tree; it is defined implicitly by antedecent patches, which are liable to change at any time ("regrinding") and thereby change some files not... ☟︎
apeloyee: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-05#1765560 << this looks to be the only safe way. asciilifeform : don't you think that's insane? ☝︎
asciilifeform: i can't picture how without a megatonne of conditionaljumps. but maybe just failure of my imagination.
asciilifeform: the variant with booleans doesn't rely on non-nullities tho.
asciilifeform: doesn't seem to , in gnat '2016'
apeloyee: it's a wonder -gnatp doesn't disable nullity checks
asciilifeform: nao that i think about it, it doesn't even have to introduce 'access types' ( pointers in ada ) , can use ordinary integers
asciilifeform: well right now it doesn't
apeloyee: it... doesn't?
asciilifeform: i don't see any reason why the thing should ~rely~ on adatronicn bounds checks for correctness.
apeloyee: Don't Turn Off Bounds Checks.
apeloyee: doesn't gnat have a facility to control the layout of memory?
asciilifeform: apeloyee: afaik it isn't possible to make types 'with hole'
apeloyee: "1) ugly" << can't see that.; "2) ... it relies on type ranges for good chunk of the proofolade"<< if you really want, can explicitly declare a subtype of Stack_Positions, omitting 0 from it
apeloyee: an extra element won't save the father of russian democracy (c), if FFACalc stack manipulation code is wrong; e.g. if a 'Want(X)' statement is omiitted
asciilifeform: apeloyee: well yes, i get it. but i DON'T LIKE it.
apeloyee: Logically, SP isn't a reference. It's a cursor, showing the boundary between the valid and invalid elements. If a line in a text editor has N sybols, then a cursor has N+1 valid positions. (Consider that an empty line sill has 1 valid cursor position).
asciilifeform: it isn't a wrecking
asciilifeform: ( they don't appear in the code, but they exist )
asciilifeform: ffa itself is a sort of tightrope walk, an attempt to 'и рыбку съесть и нахуй сесть' . it isn't actually possible to make all of the routines able to take every conceivable kind of compile-time abuse ( which i'd argue overlap of arguments, is ) without conditional jumps.
asciilifeform: afaik it isn't actually possible to write overlap-safe routines without implicit (or otherwise) branches
apeloyee: I think everything up to ch.5 is safe as long as arguments are either equal or don't overlap
apeloyee: this can be used to justify pointer arithmetic and what-not. Just don't do unsafe things!!
asciilifeform: but i can't help but agree with apeloyee re the Product in FZ_Mod_Exp , it gotta be buffered.
asciilifeform: because there isn't actually a limit as to what less-clueful people can break, regardless of what i do
apeloyee: so can't say "don't do that"
asciilifeform: that part i get, it doesn't have anything to do with the clobbering of the modulus
esthlos: diana_coman I didn't mean to imply it would be "official" (tm) client
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 15:15 asciilifeform: and yes his example snippet ~will~ barf. and no i won't spoil the puzzle by saying where and how. and no it is not hard to make 9000 similar examples.
asciilifeform: 'seals', 'deltas', 'rangers', at least 3 others that i can't recall immediately from memory
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 19:14 asciilifeform: i can't help but picture that eventually they will have to cast ~new~ lenins.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771358 << this has such a delicious socialism scent to it. "twas easy for tov hruschev, he denounced stalin. tov popochev had to denounce palin, which didn't even historically exist. had to be recreated from old stalin photographs with moustache photochopped upside down!" ☝︎
mircea_popescu: the russki kids that "didn't want to" go to afghanistan and went anyway cuz who the fuck is asking them at least had the superficially coherent excuse that they did not believe in the soviet state. the ameritards by comparison "we only believe in it-gives-us-free-monies portion of us, no more", much less of an argument.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771340 <<< nah, was fought in 60s, "hell no we won't go". usians did not want. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: btcvixen: why even show up if you can't even muster a squeak
mircea_popescu: i don't imagine it'll long last, either, so enjoy it while you have it i guess.
asciilifeform: phf: re suspend-to-ram -- 1 of the things i still dunget, is why there isn't simply a compartment for sd card in the back of the box ( any of'em, old or new ). let's say after lid closed for 10min, it'd write the ram to the sd. if battery alive -- does nothing. but if dies, then when dc plug reinserted, load back from sd.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 21:20 shinohai: I wouldn't be surprised if Chinese "Luckgoats" or something start showing up, some factory bought one of danielpbarron 's units on ebay and clones.
phf: that doesn't contradict anything i said
phf: they tried re-negotiating, and couldn't understand what means "bill gates stepped down", tried asking to speak "to his honorable son"
phf: yeah, that battery is a joke, and it's the extended one (the one that sticks out of the frame, unlike the stock smaller one, that i can't seem to find anywhere)
a111: Logged on 2018-01-16 21:51 phf: but unfortunately doesn't work (i've not tried the ttf one, but i suspect it'll render like shit) on those fancy high definition flat screens kids use these days
BigTexasBingo: Thing won't be able to follow you to a place where there's an established lesser role than he imagines for himself
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771304 << from my limited exposure is "we understands business" (which they don't) unlike those guys. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771302 << i am quite persuaded by this view. what they disliked in bush maps exactly on what we dislike in obama and his herd of subhuman brown orcs ; and more generally what they disliked of hitler (incidentally -- also what they ended up copying of hitler) very much exactly maps on the whole substance of what we don't like in pantsuit. ☝︎
phf: mircea_popescu: i don't mean the tiny little munchkins, but the goofy grin jetpack guy
phf: but unfortunately doesn't work (i've not tried the ttf one, but i suspect it'll render like shit) on those fancy high definition flat screens kids use these days ☟︎
shinohai: I wouldn't be surprised if Chinese "Luckgoats" or something start showing up, some factory bought one of danielpbarron 's units on ebay and clones. ☟︎
phf: doesn't mean you can't cut off at stem with a blade, solder back "levsha" style :>
phf: (the answer is that about %10 of shit we would pick up could be desoldered and used, though of course we didn't have any use for it. i suppose metalist career could've started if we started selling what we recovered)
asciilifeform: i can't help but picture that eventually they will have to cast ~new~ lenins. ☟︎
trinque has a blood relation he can tell to this day laments that he didn't get to dogfight migs
asciilifeform: in chicago , in the handful of 19th c building that hadn't yet been torn down to make glass idiocies, there are murals. of what the 1890s folx thought were greek muses, mythical heroes, etc.
trinque: wasn't that my point.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-13 02:20 mircea_popescu: it was utterly the case of eg ro revolution. none of the people there wanted "freedom". they were literally pissed off they can't drive over to austrian border and load up the car at the w/e discount shop.
shinohai: I don't trust them, they need stickers on top.
phf: the amount of can't even created electric disruption in san jose downtown
ave1: mine doesn't: echo $(seq 00 13) --> 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-16#1771026 << you don't understand why you want it because you ran into a sane woman, monogamize around and don't procreate. the inescapable gutter, foul as it is, is an absolute requirement for the education of children and young slavegirl. ☝︎
asciilifeform: i suspect that this disease goes right back to the 'omfg, Troo Thinker can't work with HANDS, like SLAVES! do' greeks.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform poor & stupid. i can't shake the http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-09#1767798 ; consider that you've not met either satoshi nor the other dood there discussed ; and not for lack of specifically trying. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: nah they had a "you don't need tex" thing
mircea_popescu: eh, i don't like the steppes. too... much space.
mircea_popescu: terrible. of course, the more flattering converse way to put it is "omfg i can't believe how much the republic grew in a coupla years".
mircea_popescu can't believe just how utterly shitty his 2015 spec is. anyone read that thing recently ? please don't, i'm ashamed.
mircea_popescu: in the first place, what fucking browser, they're multiple, and closed turd vendor crap pushed by utter pantsuit like mozilla, a sort of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-13#1770138 samovar. in the second place, the interface is TERRIBLE, and i don't just mean "what javascript" but also "what ssl, what pki, what dns, what the fuck". and then "what html soup, why did it crash, holy hell why does it leak secret data" and on and ON ☝︎
asciilifeform: and yes his example snippet ~will~ barf. and no i won't spoil the puzzle by saying where and how. and no it is not hard to make 9000 similar examples. ☟︎
asciilifeform: THIS -- i won't touch. it's worse by far than any xorswap 'rake'.
asciilifeform: what i don't understand is why apeloyee has a problem with 'SP ALWAYS POINTS TO A VALID CELL, MOTHERFUCKERS' rule.
mircea_popescu: "it doesn't like you, not really, but it still sticks around to torture you!"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes on the topic of "isn't it incredible how much work imbecile is willing to put into imbecillity", let's consider this thing from asciilifeform 's earlier link :
ben_vulpes: couldn't tell ya, came as a transcript
apeloyee: sorry, didn't make more
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-15#1770618 << haven't. I'll put it on the list, looks great ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'And this is why the BIOS chip was soldered directly into the board, instead of being socketed: not just to save using a 10c part, but so that you couldn't easily remove it and detect the fraud...'
asciilifeform: 'Here is our friend the anonymous 486 board again. See those black plastic things with metal legs on in the picture below? They look rather like cache RAM chips, don't they?'
a111: Logged on 2018-01-04 14:53 asciilifeform: 'hardware isn't easy to build therefore couldn't possibly be necessary, the gods would not have made this level so hard, for me, the hero' or similar.
shinohai: Supposedly declared it "The true Bitcoin" (Can't archive it: https://news.bitcoin.com/calvin-ayre-declares-bitcoin-cash-the-only-bitcoin/ )
mircea_popescu: shinohai fucktards don't link "his personal site", ie calvinayre.com
mircea_popescu: non-interpretative nikki hailey is kinda like "i don't think i am entitled to an oppinion on when i get fucked" feminist.
knubie: Finally, the frog asked, “What is the matter? I've told you I'm a beautiful princess that I'll stay with you for a week and do anything you want. Why won't you kiss me?” The programmer said, “Look, I'm a programmer. I don't have time for a girlfriend -- but a talking frog, now that's cool.”
douchebag: I'm not entirely sure what people would be interested in hearing about, and no I haven't
douchebag: Eh, I could do that I haven't really blogged enough I suppose
douchebag: That wasn't me
a111: Logged on 2016-01-02 14:04 mircea_popescu: i don't do private chats with people i don't know. you want to talk about something, this is the venue.
BingoBoingo: Normally I would have walked if it wasn't for the lluvia