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a111: Logged on 2017-07-10 19:33 asciilifeform: sooo a 4096b rsa key
takes about a dozen modexp's, on avg, on gpg 1.4.10
mircea_popescu: tbh i liked my "all items are 4096 bit" world way better and wtf is
this "multiplication doubles width" bs anyway!
mircea_popescu: precalculating 4k mods of 4
to 8kb single-bit items is a pain in
teh arse even in simple space
terms, what, ima have 16MB worth of ram/disk dedicated
to just
this PER mod ?
mircea_popescu: but no,
this dead branch has been fully explored, nothing here.
mircea_popescu: yes, but as long as you do rsa, a ^ b mod m = either a ^ b or else, a ^ b - m.
that's
the complete story,
there are no other cases.
there's specifically no k * m parameter
to be explored
there.
mircea_popescu: fine. and
the reason your mod does not reduce
to "At most one substraction op" is "because i believe
the product of
two prime numbers 2kb each can in fact be less
than 2^4095".
that it ?
mircea_popescu: so
then! calculating a ^ b mod 2^4096 is 0.26s ; calculating a ^ b mod m is 51.3s.
that it ?
mircea_popescu: cuz your production does not fit
the requisite form. produce item in requisite form, will gladly use
that.
mircea_popescu: i dunno what you
think
the behaviour preserves, but i can assure you it doesn't.
mircea_popescu: you will refuse
to be useful how many
times in a row ?
mircea_popescu: is it or is it not
true a modular exponentiation in current gpg
takes, on your chosen machine, 0.26 seconds.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so
to
try and extract actual reality from
this : a ^ b mod m
takes 0.26 seconds in koch writing ; same a^b mod m
takes 51.3 on your box, notwithstanding a ^ b without any modding
takes 1s ?
a111: Logged on 2017-09-17 12:25 asciilifeform: mod exp for 4096bit operands aint 1 mod, but 8192 of'em, and
they're on 8192bit ints
jhvh1: asciilifeform:
The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-17 11:38 mircea_popescu: in
this sense,
the perpetual "we don't deal with problems, we
try
to inflate
them away" is a forced mistake of
the socialist mind, brought about by its deffective
tech stack. what
the fuck else are
they going
to do,
the only people
to which "french culture" in its jimbo diderot reformulation appeals
to are first generation in shoes functional illiterate
tards.
a111: Logged on 2017-02-03 05:29 phf: my mom had one of
those "papa escaped
the purges by burning all paperwork but life got
tough when
they
took our governess" piano
teachers, who would lament about being forced
to
teach peasants and brown folk, not on racial grounds as much as "you have
to have a bidet in your house for 3 generations, before you can
touch a piano"
a111: Logged on 2017-09-17 11:34 mircea_popescu:
the whole fucking POINT of french revolution was "we can make
things -- soldiers, arms for
those soldiers, culture for
their fathers and wives, CHEAPER and MORE ABUNDANT if we chinese it." "but will it be as good ?" "i can't hear you over
the kanzure of my superficiality"
a111: Logged on 2017-09-15 23:51 BingoBoingo: So
this "Sally Hemmings And
The Widower" Fanfic/novel, I'm not finding anyway
to work crabapple metaphor into unifying narrative
a111: Logged on 2017-09-17 11:08 a111: Logged on 2017-09-12 21:32 mircea_popescu: and
this is potentially recursive, in
that if you have a 500 bit number with 300 ones in it, you do
the mod for 500
terms which are all a power of 2,
throw 200 away, keep
the other 300 and add
them.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-17 11:13 mircea_popescu: what
this means in practice being
that "the 4096 bit modulus of a 4096 bit number is obtained
through at most one substraction op".
a111: Logged on 2017-09-17 11:10 mircea_popescu: (pro
tip : since
the modulus is 4096 bits, all powers of
two up
to 2^4095 are unchanged by modding.)
mircea_popescu: "it's ok, science will progress so fast nobody will ever wear shoes again!!!". yeah, i'm sure. and
then it'll "progress" even faster
than
that huh.
mircea_popescu: in
this sense,
the perpetual "we don't deal with problems, we
try
to inflate
them away" is a forced mistake of
the socialist mind, brought about by its deffective
tech stack. what
the fuck else are
they going
to do,
the only people
to which "french culture" in its jimbo diderot reformulation appeals
to are first generation in shoes functional illiterate
tards.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: which is why it's always poor immigrants, and "3rd world" shitholes. cuz if you approximate a non-closed form solution by
the number five, you get a certain set of perked ears, and
they're going
to always be in
the back of
the class.
mircea_popescu: obviously, it won't be as good, in
the obvious sense
that you don't need frenchmen
to do it, can have it done in yugoslavia cheaper. and by yugoslavia i mean poland which is
to say china.
mircea_popescu: the whole fucking POINT of french revolution was "we can make
things -- soldiers, arms for
those soldiers, culture for
their fathers and wives, CHEAPER and MORE ABUNDANT if we chinese it." "but will it be as good ?" "i can't hear you over
the kanzure of my superficiality"
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-09-12 23:10 mircea_popescu: 1. if you actually want metal kbd, your choice of steel is probably ill advised. i'd
try silver instead. heuristicallyt
there's a reason gunsmiths and silversmiths were ~the same people i nthe early modern period ; moreover silver has better properties in
the range sough.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-13 19:36 asciilifeform: lathe driven moar by musketry
than by fine art
tho
mircea_popescu: also arguably some of
the ugliest
tits ever
to meet lens.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-13 01:18 mircea_popescu: ok, quick summary :
tech pre-injectors was carburators. engines "optimized for racing" got slowly more complex over
time.
then injection became feasible, and
they simplified. now
they've recomplexified again.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-12 23:52 asciilifeform:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-12#1713184 << in ffaworld, a < or > or == comparison is not only a subtraction (O(N)) but another O(N)
test for nullity (xor all
the words
together)
mircea_popescu: what
this means in practice being
that "the 4096 bit modulus of a 4096 bit number is obtained
through at most one substraction op".
☟︎ mircea_popescu: (pro
tip : since
the modulus is 4096 bits, all powers of
two up
to 2^4095 are unchanged by modding.)
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-09-12 21:32 mircea_popescu: and
this is potentially recursive, in
that if you have a 500 bit number with 300 ones in it, you do
the mod for 500
terms which are all a power of 2,
throw 200 away, keep
the other 300 and add
them.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-09-16 15:31 asciilifeform: in other olds ( i dun
think i posted
this measurement )
the NAIVE modular exponentiator
takes 51.3 seconds per 4096b a*b mod m , on
the 'standard'
test box
a111: Logged on 2017-09-16 15:35 asciilifeform: ( for comparison, a NONmodular exponentiation of same width on same box with same ffa
takes 0.26s. )
a111: Logged on 2017-09-15 23:51 BingoBoingo: So
this "Sally Hemmings And
The Widower" Fanfic/novel, I'm not finding anyway
to work crabapple metaphor into unifying narrative
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not directly evident giving it
to
the state's people's something or
the other is such a good idea in any case.
mircea_popescu: fortified oil complex worth like 3rd in
the world, and outside of
that 20mn or so usg nigglets clamoring about gini indexes.
BingoBoingo: es
that
the gauntlet in question, which features a "kek" symbol
that resembles
the "Kekistan flag" popularized by 4chan, was originally created by
the game's developers back in June of 2015. Dague says
the gauntlet was one of many items in
the game
that "reference real world art, iconography,
typeface, and other design elements" and
that "some of
the reference imagery featured
the simple mirrored chevron shapes found in
the finished piec
BingoBoingo: In people who wish
they were
the ministry of games: "Earlier
this week, when it became clear
that a gauntlet in Destiny 2 resembled a "Kekistan" flag design
that has been repurposed by neo-Nazis, developer Bungie was quick
to apologize and work
to remove
the item from
the game. Now,
the developer is using a public blog post
to
try
to explain how
the symbol ended up in
the game in
the first place. Community Manager David "DeeJ" Dague writ
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> apparently
the whole "cashless society" is working out great for
the fucktarded "elite" << Aha, Butthole is what's left
to
take
mats: kindly mirror pdf? 'resist.com' ver referenced in log, has been
taken down
BingoBoingo: mats: I may be able
to put ine
together
this weekend. Prolly quickest
to run pdf
through
text converter yourself.