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diana_coman: ugh; now I have a situation in which mod6's v simply drops on the floor my patch, while asciilifeform's v sees it correctly in the flow BUT when pressing it barfs saying that a readme file that the patch deletes does not exist as a result of previous patch WHILE pressing previous patch actually creates that file;
mircea_popescu: not as far as i've observed. then again, everyone's free to follow fanfics.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-07 13:29 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's some pretty great legal reasoning right there. "the factual accuracy of statements can now be derived from the company one keeps -- for isntance, a man can not be sued for practicing medicine without a license for as long as he does it within sight of actual doctors"
asciilifeform: diana_coman: pretty sure it is same as mod6 has on trb www
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's some pretty great legal reasoning right there. "the factual accuracy of statements can now be derived from the company one keeps -- for isntance, a man can not be sued for practicing medicine without a license for as long as he does it within sight of actual doctors" ☟︎
asciilifeform: this lack of formal relationship, Edwards has espoused views consistent with those associated with the Klan and, equally as important, he has repeatedly and publicly embraced several individuals who are strongly associated with the Klan. Mindful of Aesop's lesson, “A man is known by the company he keeps,” 1 we hold that Edwards cannot make claims of defamation or invasion of privacy and affirm summary disposition in favor of defe
asciilifeform: 'The Restatement (Second) of Torts § 559 lists “membership in the Ku Klux Klan” as the quintessential illustration of a defamatory statement. In an opinion piece in The Detroit News, columnist Bankole Thompson asserted that radio show host James Edwards is a “leader” of the Ku Klux Klan. There is no record evidence to suggest that Edwards holds a formal leadership position in the Ku Klux Klan, nor is there any record evidence
mircea_popescu: check that out! "bitcoin is now 100% more valuable than it was three weeks ago", in preference of "bitcoin is exactly the same but we're willing to admit twice as much weakness in the worthless fiat than we were three weeks ago"
mircea_popescu: dude's ~as maddox-knockoffy / dumb as i remember it, however, "The Pick Up Artist community has turned thousands of young men into silly cheap-shits. Their “The Game” plan is simple: 1. Don’t pay for shit. 2. ? 3. Pussy! But that’s like switching from live bait to dynamite when you’re fishing in the bathtub. Here’s a straighter line between points U and P: 1. Stop dating chicks that aren’t going to fuck you!"
mircea_popescu: let me change that : "no '--- ' anywhere, you have been warned" should read "no '--- ' or '+++ ' as first 4 characters of any line -- you have been warned"
diana_coman: hm, is there a clear convention re patch names ? using - or _ as separators? mod6's *very useful* guide at http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-September/000168.html seems to suggest _ but the collection of patches seems to use both - and _
a111: Logged on 2017-05-15 21:59 mircea_popescu: anywya, im not reading this pile of garbage ; but from the skimming -- the whole argument is born of ignorance. reddit got its start as a heaven for child porn peddlers who got banned on digg.
mircea_popescu: re http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-15#1656598 since might as well archive it, http://gawker.com/5950981/unmasking-reddits-violentacrez-the-biggest-troll-on-the-web ☝︎
diana_coman: I can also confirm that it presses with asciilifeform's v and moreover that the 2 results are - as expected - same
asciilifeform: aha, that very same. same work of heathenry as sha256.
asciilifeform: ( as seen in above diff )
asciilifeform: phf is entirely right. it is broken exactly as in the earlier '+++' case
trinque: as if that ball of hair is readable
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-06#1747672 << correct. same item as : ☝︎
asciilifeform: i get same result as with mod6's vtron
mircea_popescu: i suppose the third alternative is to actually implement a proper diff as part of vtron
BingoBoingo: trinque: Their move to clang as default compiler makes pain
asciilifeform: some texts cannot be (!) vdiffed, for so long as we use unix diff; these appearently include gpg sigs
mircea_popescu: mod6 it's not a crime to have a perl vtron. however, if you plan as your own strategy to move away from perl and you're judging it more of a liability than anything, then by all means, eschew.
mircea_popescu: observe that after bitching about the quality of work in empire, along the lines of "everything works for as long as you don't use it", our pile of stuff exhibits the same exact property.
asciilifeform: whole thing, as before.
asciilifeform: just as they ought to be
asciilifeform: the issue is as fixed as it gets. i posted the grep item as example of how to verify, without even a vtron, that nothing has been slipped in from under the table.
asciilifeform: phf: if you had some code in your patch viewer to eat this type of horror, as 'special case', it is now a good time to throw it out
asciilifeform: i tested with my vtron, as pictured in diana_coman's tarball, and it worx.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: plox to verify that this worx as described above, when you get a chance.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just as soon as someone puts a patch on top of it, the trees will diverge and then phf can exclude the legacy one or w/e it is he does to them
asciilifeform: ty diana_coman , i'ma check it out as soon as hands free
diana_coman: yes,as stated
BingoBoingo made a quick walk around the neighborhood, has to reorient to sun's new location as opposed to ye familiar old compas
BingoBoingo: as opposed to hiding it
asciilifeform: certainly not chumpatron that soldiers right-along as ever before, without even oil changes.
asciilifeform: to briefly revisit http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1747134 : a 'p' proggy can ~produce~ , as output, another such proggy, simply by printing characters. but, pointedly, CANNOT demand to execute it. ☝︎
asciilifeform: they're quarter-TBs , such as are sold for industrial temps, '10yr warranty' ( to this day i have nfi how one might go about claiming warranty on a hdd , but we digress ) etc
asciilifeform: not Q-ing before cycle count elapsed, is eggog, same as e.g. div0 .
mircea_popescu: as opposed to control instructions
asciilifeform: ( given as item is from ancient asciilifeform article... )
asciilifeform: ( it is listed as belonging to mircea_popescu )
asciilifeform: a kg occupies ~same space as 'standard' chocolate bar.
asciilifeform: from orlolcommentz: ' Much to my surprise, it doesn't translate internationally as easily as one might think. I have a - very - little gold. When I wanted to sell some here in Ecuador early this year, I discovered that in fact there is no-one in Ecuador who buys gold. Moreover, there is also no-one who would take it back to the Perth Mint [Australia] from whence it came. DHL and Fed-Ex only move papers!! There are no couriers. !! I t
mircea_popescu: this is not the same as llvm or wisual-c shittery.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the item was very much as described, ~"handwritten asm"
asciilifeform: i simply dun fully buy into the 'gnarly source is exactly same level of retardation as straight microshitization'. it isn't quite same thing.
mircea_popescu: whenever oen tries -- it doesn't. for as long as one does not try -- "it does just fine".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform glhf. can't do such, as we've discovered, with ~anything anyway.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 21:18 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746771 << as opposed to what exactly "open" turd out there ? http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-03#1746024 ? or what precisely are we comparing to here. openbios ? name the standard "open".
irene_yvonne: i'm setting up electrum wallet as we speak, give me a few minutes and i'll give you the address
a111: Logged on 2015-04-07 00:10 mircea_popescu: just like having a car doesn't alow having gasoline. it's true that often people who have cars also independently have gasoline, but the two are fundamentally unrelated, and there is such a thing as the fool's breakdown, ie, car's outta gas on the side of hte road.
asciilifeform: but just as easily separated from all of it with well-placed kick
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i think orlol's argument casts us as the zulu, and usg as the d00dz with the maxim
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is exactly industry tho -- lolcats delivered on-spec, timely , and exactly as the purchasers ordered !111
asciilifeform: as observed in the end of ch.1.
asciilifeform: this is sadly an instance of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-02#1745589 , apeloyee : if i can't compactly mark the carry-in and/or carry-out as unreferenced , the compiler shits forth unusably slow bin. ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'O' stood for 'outputoverflow'. which in turn was exactly same as FZ_Shift_Left_I , which permitted only ~input~ of overflow; which in turn was otherwise identical to FZ_ShiftLeft, which permitted neither.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 18:13 asciilifeform: https://archive.is/ogLAM << lulgem from same rag as ben_vulpes's link, 'People keep finding hidden cameras in their Airbnbs'
asciilifeform: ( declared warmism permanently cemented orlov into this company , as typical clitler voter, the other major warmist demographic, tends not to read collapse bl0gz )
apeloyee: i also need to understand/fit in head/convince myself of the line re "extends to any N bit register". << schoolbook addition method shows that the MSB and carry-out depend only on MSB of operands and the carry-in to the most significant place; the carry-in can be derived from result's MSB and the summand's (as their sum modulo 2, aka xor), thus the register width doesn't matter
asciilifeform: ( even the typical ru chitchatosphere plankton has advanced from 2013 'sooner or later gas for all' to a 2014 state of the art 'the lizards use btc themselves, hence slow gas' or even a 2015 'lolcatcoin-of-the-future will sink errything as it tanks' etc
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-05#1746771 << as opposed to what exactly "open" turd out there ? http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-03#1746024 ? or what precisely are we comparing to here. openbios ? name the standard "open". ☝︎☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/GF20z/?raw=true << asciilifeform's comment, preserved in amber, given as orlol has a 5+ yr habit of deleting ideologically impure
asciilifeform: also includes obligatory discussion of shitcoin-of-the-day ( in orlol's case, 'cryptokitties' ) as if they were bitcoin.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/ogLAM << lulgem from same rag as ben_vulpes's link, 'People keep finding hidden cameras in their Airbnbs' ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( may be redundant sentence, it isn't as if they had any other use for which to steal )
asciilifeform: 'Carey Shenkman is an attorney specializing in human rights ... Yugoslav International Tribunal ... graduated from New York University School of Law, where he served as an editor of the NYU Law Review' ahahahahahaha
asciilifeform: featuring such honeytraps as a 'Encrypted Internet Peering Project' , 'Secure Broadband Research Testbed' , 'Security & Privacy Focused Mobile Telephony Research' , 'XMPP End-to-End Encryption Standards Development' , etc
mircea_popescu: which is how it got to (metaphorically) denote superlative laziness : because "so lazy not even hunger will stir", as per that "hung, father, hung".
asciilifeform: xor is really same thing as add but without the carries
asciilifeform: there was a thread, where asciilifeform described how more than once he took a major open problem, and actually solved, and as result went broke.
asciilifeform: now that i think about it, if i were mircea_popescu , ffa would have gone more than simply twice as fast, it takes considerable time to reload the problem into head , after a long dive into the saecular sewers
a111: Logged on 2017-11-29 04:54 asciilifeform: as it is, asciilifeform couldn't even sell 1 btc in here in usgistan, even if wanted to.
mircea_popescu: class 1 is actually quoted above, "or is it out and out, deliberately learned helplessness in the vein of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-29#1744043 (as recurrent throughout logs) ?" ; class 2 is http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-11#1736269 and so forth. ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you're cutting bits and pieces of a thing then hurting self with them as a proof the item was dangerous. item wasn't dangerous as it was, you cut it up into harmful pieces deliberately!
mircea_popescu: yes but there's important points there as to how things work.
mircea_popescu: item, which is generically useful, and in exchange it gets paid with the exact sort of intangibles and goodwill these sorts of intellectual leadership moves warrant and generally attract -- for example by s.mg being married to 100% of its product line to date as a deliberate move ; and being very inclined to consider its isp offering when that comes online (is it coming online btw ?) and such things.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-05 14:17 asciilifeform: as for asciilifeform , he would actually prefer if mircea_popescu shot straight and said 'hell no i won't pay for no stinkin' software', rather than the peculiar ritual of having a contest, then to proclaim the submitters as a whole 'self-indulgent indolent' and then in the end to take s.nsa crypto lib and use for phree anyway
a111: Logged on 2017-11-29 04:54 asciilifeform: as it is, asciilifeform couldn't even sell 1 btc in here in usgistan, even if wanted to.
mircea_popescu: ent of your own time on your part (ie, wasted it in fiatlands instead of using it productively in the republic) ? or is it a case of on the contrary, judicious use of your time ("the republic'd have made me rich but empire made me richer still") ? or is it out and out, deliberately learned helplessness in the vein of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-29#1744043 (as recurrent throughout logs) ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: when you think "hey, ima do the right thing, spend two years making ffa" you make some decisions. they're fine and good, inasmuch as they're yours. but to be decisions, they're the choice of something over something else.
asciilifeform: as such -- mircea_popescu works just as 'for free' as asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: i was discussing nsa, as such.
mircea_popescu: well i mean... there's an over-time tendency for btc bounties nominal value to decrease and for their fiat value to increase. this is normal, as the item grows.
asciilifeform: as for asciilifeform , he would actually prefer if mircea_popescu shot straight and said 'hell no i won't pay for no stinkin' software', rather than the peculiar ritual of having a contest, then to proclaim the submitters as a whole 'self-indulgent indolent' and then in the end to take s.nsa crypto lib and use for phree anyway ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, the point re "it's unfortunate that open ended terms, such as one's own life, and other things, end up quite closed termed in the end" is sound. yes it's quite unfortunate, and rather regrettable. nevertheless, it's how it goes ; if i knew better in feb 2016 i'd have said "this'll be open for a coupla years". as it happens, i didn't know any better in 2016.
asciilifeform: made originally ( as amply described in the logs , at every step of the way ) for universal numbertheoretical ciphrator.
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as it's made for being correct, it's made for whatever it'll be used for.
mircea_popescu: the item doesn't even exist implemented at all! still today, as then. lego blocks implementation would beat this situation.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-09 21:53 asciilifeform: at any rate it is just as easily implemented on pmachine as rsa.
mircea_popescu: the important parts in order of importance : 1) distress call ("god damned it") ; 2. failure discussion "i can't do this c-s i was going to do for the cipher comp". these must be present as teh header.
mircea_popescu: not as such.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cs is numbertheoretical cipher, just as rsa, requires sane bignum.
mircea_popescu: "The S.NSA entry is to be an implementation based on Cramer-Shoup. As it turns out, Cramer-Shoup has never been publicly implemented by anyone, at all."
asciilifeform: i will stand and say, asciilifeform did exactly the Right Thing, prepared , with proper care wartime ersatz ( mpi ) for if ( as turned out to be the case ) proper item ( ffa ) takes years.
mircea_popescu: leaving the mpi_second_cut as the basic root for further/other work also.
asciilifeform: if the item actually ends up (as it appears to be going) in eulora, imho is the proper thing to do, rather than 'source is this-here paste'
mircea_popescu: it is not to say that one (me, s.mg, diana_coman, everyone) does not benefit immensely from shooting the breeze among the intelligent&educated, as opposed to out in the cold.