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a111: Logged on 2017-10-27 22:29 mircea_popescu:
thatg aside,
the more pressing problem is
that we don't have a proper pdf-decrufter, (random moron with delusions of self-impoirtance failed
to be useful, as you prolly recall), and if we're going
to do something by hand
this'd be more sorely needed
than
that.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-27 22:28 mircea_popescu:
the principal impediment
to republican logging, atm, is
that nobod yucan be arsed
to write a html de-fucker ;
there is one already written, by
the archive.is dood, which spits out zips.
the solutions
then are either a) piggyback on
that, which alf has (irresponsibly) been
trying
to obstruct
throughout, and in
the laughablest of manners or else b) make own, which will without exception require making own, and RIGHT NOW, not "n
mod6: yeah, kinda interesting little project
there.
lobbes: true. pdf converter
top-priority
mod6: there's also a few other
things mentioned in
the
thread above.
lobbes: if anything: redundancy. And if in x $time
trinque's vision becomes realized I'll be ready
to relay whatever I got
a111: Logged on 2017-10-27 22:13 mod6: and it was pretty nifty
that it had archived all of
the pastes.
lobbes: fwiw in
the short-term, I may have lobbesbot start archiving wotpastes only and host
them
to my personal www
☟︎ lobbes: "CarPlay is an Apple standard
that enables a car radio or head unit
to be a display and also act as a controller for an iPhone." << oh god
BingoBoingo: In other news, Apple's "car play" infotainment software is coming
to...
The 2018 Honda Goldwing (2-wheels),
this is sure
to be lulzy
BingoBoingo: But, returning
to DC swamp food desert what do alf
tastes have
to look forward
to? How does one cope? Does alf go
to distilled water and grain alcohol diet?
☟︎ BingoBoingo: Without
the drinking
to forget, all
that remains is a big meatsack full of resentments.
BingoBoingo: Yeah. Companion phrase is "The second best
treatment for
the alcoholic problems is booze"
BingoBoingo: Eh,
there's no drunk worse
than a dry drunk
a111: Logged on 2017-10-27 11:19 asciilifeform: plane back
to shitschwitz in couplea days
BingoBoingo:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-27#1729713 <<
This is probably least healthy
thing
to be doing unless storing fuel for next "burn
the ships on
touching shore" move.
The sorta resentments probable on returning
to
the big prison sound a lot like how people get lost in bottles.
☝︎☟︎ hanbot: oh hey,
that's pretty. what is it?
deedbot: BingoBoingo updated rating of felipelalli from 1
to -1 << Absent despite acknowledging receipt of communication on Republican state of necessity
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) --
This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if
the command is in more
than one plugin. You may also want
to use
the 'list' command
to list all available plugins and commands.
BingoBoingo: <trinque> lol what, like someone's browser cache is doing as
they click? << What's "browser cache" is it like BTC Crash?
mircea_popescu: nevertheless,
tis a delicate operation and im not sure we have spare patients.
trinque: communist megastate fucktards
throughout
the entire extant internet, because no one ever dies on field. who could
tell; we're all fungible.
trinque: gotta cleave
the "$he said $fact" from "there is
this silo which is
the only source of $fact"
trinque: I am and have been preoccupied with, respectfully,
the mike_c problem.
mircea_popescu: which is what
that whole " a new $string which resolves
to $hash" is all about.
mircea_popescu: the oither problem is of course
that
this lays right into gns
mircea_popescu: obviously
this dun preclude anyone from private commentary. but you can't have
trilema announce shit as comments because it heard from discuss.
trinque: sure, someone announces
to you "I would like
to scrawl
this on your wall" and you announce inclusion or not
mircea_popescu: so i always imagined
that
to plug web ie blogs such as
trilema into gossipd, what'd happen would be
that i'd announce what
the article is and what
the comments were.
mircea_popescu: the reason i didn't start
the gossipd discussion with
trilema specifically has
to do with
the comments problem. which is :
there's some implicit authority-and-authorship play wrt comments, as reader is more interested in mp's idea of what comments were
than in random spew, and by a large factor.
trinque: connected nodes chatter
this fact
trinque: take a particular
trilema article, your node announces
that
there is a new $string which resolves
to $hash and your node signed
the fact
trinque: current web flowing over
the
thing wouldn't look much different from
that; however,
things *built* for
the model would be parceled differently.
mircea_popescu: so
then why not simply pipe
the current apache or w/e into gossipd.
trinque: and yep, derives directly from notions being formed in
the gossipd
threads
mod6: heh, 'spangle
the log'
a111: Logged on 2017-10-27 23:11
trinque:
trilema in
the model has a key, chatters
to peers when something is published. peers retain or dont as
their node is set, allow others
to connect
to retrieve items or dont as idem.
mircea_popescu: the great advantage of current archival mechanism is
that it powerwashes
the
targets.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: trinque yes but basic shit, how do you prevent joe from spreading his "virus"
thusly ?
trinque: anybody recall directconnect? probably closer
to what
the
thing oughta look like
than say gnutella, but with a hierarchy of nodes instead of connecting
to one station.
☟︎ trinque: trilema in
the model has a key, chatters
to peers when something is published. peers retain or dont as
their node is set, allow others
to connect
to retrieve items or dont as idem.
☟︎ trinque: "bitch is
taking selfies again; snoar"
mircea_popescu: shinohai how did you compute your 0.00025 anyway ? "gotta
type a number in" ?
mircea_popescu: i suspect
that contrary
to what operator-minded examiner might wish
to believe,
the limit is
the operator not
the economics.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-27 22:09 asciilifeform: so long as
they don't
tear hair out when it becomes clear
that no, you can't charge for sunlight
mircea_popescu: which means
that even if we have 10 such loggers we'd still lose 16% or so of all links
through simple coincidence at
this level.
mircea_popescu: for a long
time it was reliable, but so far in october it's about 10% up or so.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-27 20:31 mod6 jaywalks all
the
time
a111: Logged on 2017-10-27 22:08
trinque: and reason I'll yet grunt out a dht webthinger, central archives are nonsense
mircea_popescu: the only problem in all
this is
that i'm not willing
to put "use archive.is" into
the logger spec ; nor am i willing
to go "write html-decrufter or die". so... we're FOSSing about.
mircea_popescu: between logotrons
that reliably maintain
the archive.is produced zips of any linked pages and a service which spits out
text versions of pdfs (and youtube videos etc),
to be also archived, we'd actually have a complete solution
trinque: sure, separate items. I was attacking
the price and
that which was priced.
mircea_popescu: thatg aside,
the more pressing problem is
that we don't have a proper pdf-decrufter, (random moron with delusions of self-impoirtance failed
to be useful, as you prolly recall), and if we're going
to do something by hand
this'd be more sorely needed
than
that.
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: the principal impediment
to republican logging, atm, is
that nobod yucan be arsed
to write a html de-fucker ;
there is one already written, by
the archive.is dood, which spits out zips.
the solutions
then are either a) piggyback on
that, which alf has (irresponsibly) been
trying
to obstruct
throughout, and in
the laughablest of manners or else b) make own, which will without exception require making own, and RIGHT NOW, not "n
☟︎ mircea_popescu: trinque idea being
that
there's a necessary and natural cut between log matter and linked matter.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-27 22:07 asciilifeform: afaik nobody knows where
to even begin resolving
this knot,
trinque: lol what, like someone's browser cache is doing as
they click?
a111: Logged on 2017-10-27 22:02
trinque: arguably future logotron oughta preserve links itself
a111: Logged on 2017-10-27 21:45 shinohai: he redid
the voorhees paid 2
tweet pyramid scheme
mircea_popescu: i ~think~ it ~might~ have been implemented,
to some degree at some point somwhere.
a111: Logged on 2016-07-21 22:10 mircea_popescu: i suppose one
thing we could do is change how a111 works so
that on every outbout link posted here it a) makes an archive.is copy of
thje page ; b) downloads
the corresponding zip
shinohai: mircea_popescu: well obviously
that *wasnt* real
mod6: i don't know if it is doing
this any longer, or if it does zips or whatever. no idea.